Nothing in this world hurts more than being called "cringe"

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01 Feb 2021, 11:55 am

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Also anxiety = an actual disorder
I don't call myself depressed when I'm sad.
I don't call people 'anxious' when they're nervous.


Anxiety being an actual disorder doesn't mean you have to have an anxiety disorder to experience anxiety in general.


When I refer to it I mean my own.

And I didn't feel any sort of social anxiety when I was younger. Not even social nerves. Not even how NTs describe it.

It was an ideal state, like a prolonged childhood.

Would you say the same about 'depressed' or 'paranoid'? There's other words for it. I would say 'nerves' for non-ill people.


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01 Feb 2021, 12:08 pm

Nerves=Anxiety=Panic. Its all a dysfunction of an overly sensitive limbic system. And its mostly a learned (or more precisely; conditioned) response.


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01 Feb 2021, 12:09 pm

I'm another member who deals with the LGBTQ stuff. There are a lot of transphobic people who think I'm cringe worthy. I once told someone that I'm Trans. He said, "Why did you tell me that? I thought that you and I were going to be together in Heaven." The two of us still are. He just doesn't realize it. It's up to God who's born and LGBTQ people are no exception.


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01 Feb 2021, 12:17 pm

Another thing that makes me cringe worthy is the fact that I bare the autism label. There are three different types of people that I've gotten a reaction from. The type who think autism means a person is very smart, the type who doesn't even know there is such a thing as autism and the third type who thinks that all autistic people smear and bang their heads all day. It's the third type of people that I don't like because they either tell me that I can't be autistic or they think I smear and bang my head all day.


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01 Feb 2021, 12:20 pm

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Nerves=Anxiety=Panic. Its all a dysfunction of an overly sensitive limbic system. And its mostly a learned (or more precisely; conditioned) response.


Unless you are either a dr or have a diagnosed mental condition you don't have enough experience in this for me to respect your pop psychology tbh.

Nerves = stumbling a bit.

My anxiety = not being able to get out of bed because the whole entire world hates you, or at least that's how you feel and the lack of being able to get out of bed becomes physical as do the stomach aches etc.

Tbh if someone just has healthy level of nerves they need a kick up the backside (not literally!) & told to get on with stuff.


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01 Feb 2021, 12:25 pm

Another thing that might make me cringe worthy is my love for Germany and my natural speech patterns that go along with it. I was at a weekly seniours coffee one time and everyone at my table was talking about Fifa Women's World Cup and I mentioned that I was rooting for Germany. An Englishman almost fell out of his seat. His wife asked, "You have a problem with that? You shouldn't this day and age." My mum nearly disowned me over Germany because just the name of the country makes her cringe.


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01 Feb 2021, 12:31 pm

God gave me those three things for a reason. God gave me those three things because I can handle them, and I love him for it.


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01 Feb 2021, 12:48 pm

People hate people for the stupidest reasons.



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01 Feb 2021, 1:10 pm

KT67 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
KT67 wrote:
Also anxiety = an actual disorder
I don't call myself depressed when I'm sad.
I don't call people 'anxious' when they're nervous.


Anxiety being an actual disorder doesn't mean you have to have an anxiety disorder to experience anxiety in general.


When I refer to it I mean my own.

And I didn't feel any sort of social anxiety when I was younger. Not even social nerves. Not even how NTs describe it.

It was an ideal state, like a prolonged childhood.

Would you say the same about 'depressed' or 'paranoid'? There's other words for it. I would say 'nerves' for non-ill people.


Anxiety is a feeling. Anxiety disorder is a disorder. It's a pervasive or disproportionate feeling of anxiety that has a negative effect on your life.



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01 Feb 2021, 1:11 pm

Fnord wrote:
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Not going down this road again with the self hating autistic bunch on here :roll:
projection.
Evidence?
Just a hunch.  If you want evidence. You will have to interrogate KT67 and draw out an admission.
There are self-hating people with autism on this website, and many of them do seem to project their problems onto others.  The rest of us (like KT67 and I) have identified our problems and have either resolved them or have made great strides toward resolving them.

I, for one, admire KT67 for her intelligence, strength, and tenacity.



How are people here self hating? I would think a self hating autistic are people on the spectrum who hate others for their autism symptoms and judge them for it or make fun of them for it. Those ones exist. I don't see that here unless you are referring to Fnord Derangement syndrome or those who assume others are being bullies and insensitive on purpose because of their communication styles and bad reading comprehension, difficulty with empathy, etc.


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01 Feb 2021, 1:15 pm

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How are people here self-hating? ...
Read through a few years' worth of posts in "The Haven" and "Love and Dating".  Look especially for those people for whom every post and thread seems to center on their negative opinions of themselves.



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01 Feb 2021, 1:17 pm

Everyone has anxiety. Anxiety only becomes a disorder if your reactions to a normal situation are abnormal and they cause you significant impairment.

Some people are more anxious than others and they don't have an anxiety disorder because it doesn't impair them and cause them significant issues.

For example, what parent out there will be calm and okay if they lost their child or if their child got stuck on a commute train and they ended up at another station? This reaction would be considered normal. Was the parent having anxiety? Yes but was this a disorder? No because this reaction is considered normal. When the majority of people are anxious or hysteric about something, this is considered normal and not called a disorder here even if it is causing the parent a significant impairment.

I remember we had this talk once in our autism group about what makes something a diagnoses. Everyone has symptoms of something and we all do things that are in the DSM but what makes it a symptom or a trait is how we react to situation and how we express it.


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01 Feb 2021, 1:18 pm

Fnord wrote:
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How are people here self-hating? ...
Read through a few years' worth of posts in "The Haven" and "Love and Dating".  Look especially for those people for whom every post and thread seems to center on their negative opinions of themselves.



So internalized ableism.


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01 Feb 2021, 1:25 pm

League_Girl wrote:
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How are people here self-hating? ...
Read through a few years' worth of posts in "The Haven" and "Love and Dating".  Look especially for those people for whom every post and thread seems to center on their negative opinions of themselves.
So internalized ableism.
Yeah ... or something like that ... maybe?

Sorta like the adolescents who hate themselves for not being as attractive as the most popular kids in school.



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01 Feb 2021, 2:46 pm

People who refuse to listen to those of us who feel neutral or positive about our autism.

Autism has hurt them so badly that they refuse to believe it can be different for anyone else.

It's actually quite sad.

Not everyone wants to be NT.

Autism is all I've known and I like it.


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01 Feb 2021, 2:48 pm

NorthWind wrote:
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Sweetleaf wrote:
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Also anxiety = an actual disorder
I don't call myself depressed when I'm sad.
I don't call people 'anxious' when they're nervous.


Anxiety being an actual disorder doesn't mean you have to have an anxiety disorder to experience anxiety in general.


When I refer to it I mean my own.

And I didn't feel any sort of social anxiety when I was younger. Not even social nerves. Not even how NTs describe it.

It was an ideal state, like a prolonged childhood.

Would you say the same about 'depressed' or 'paranoid'? There's other words for it. I would say 'nerves' for non-ill people.


Anxiety is a feeling. Anxiety disorder is a disorder. It's a pervasive or disproportionate feeling of anxiety that has a negative effect on your life.


Fine then I'll call it SAD.

It's a fact I have it/am diagnosed with it.

Doesn't make me self hating to want rid of something that made my life worse.

And no I didn't always have anxiety. At least I had no form of social anxiety, except if someone posed a physical threat. I didn't care what people thought of me til £££ got involved in it.


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