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09 Nov 2007, 12:14 pm

I guess I still wouldn't qualify for that Szatmari either as I don't have 'D', the odd speech one.



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09 Nov 2007, 2:01 pm

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Firstly, I thought OCD was the 'flavour of the month' or so to speak...


As did I. That or ADD.

Maybe I'm just not hanging out at the right places, but outside Wrong Planet I rarely hear talk of Autism and even less of Asperger's.



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09 Nov 2007, 2:09 pm

I've never heard of anyone talk about Asperger's OR OCD. Only thing with OCD is I've heard people randomly use that term inappropriately.



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09 Nov 2007, 2:11 pm

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Only thing with OCD is I've heard people randomly use that term inappropriately.

Same here... I had never even heard of it until I was diagnosed with it.


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09 Nov 2007, 2:26 pm

Wolfpup wrote:
I've never heard of anyone talk about Asperger's OR OCD. Only thing with OCD is I've heard people randomly use that term inappropriately.


I suppose that's what I hear a lot too, but the person saying it will say it like he really has it. Like "Oh yeah, I get really OCD about that kinda thing." And I always wanna say that you don't just "get OCD" about something. It's more complicated than that.

Then again, I've heard a number of kids from highschool calling themselves pyromaniacs when they're really just destructive and thieves who try to write it off as kleptomania. To kids, it's cool to have problems and to be "broken."

My focus was probably all over the place there. I apologize for that. XP



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09 Nov 2007, 2:48 pm

Panzyo wrote:
Wolfpup wrote:
I've never heard of anyone talk about Asperger's OR OCD. Only thing with OCD is I've heard people randomly use that term inappropriately.


I suppose that's what I hear a lot too, but the person saying it will say it like he really has it. Like "Oh yeah, I get really OCD about that kinda thing." And I always wanna say that you don't just "get OCD" about something. It's more complicated than that.

Hmmm. The 'hip' insult here seems to be referring to someone as being "ADHD". Nice, eh? :?



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09 Nov 2007, 2:53 pm

UncleBeer wrote:
Panzyo wrote:
Wolfpup wrote:
I've never heard of anyone talk about Asperger's OR OCD. Only thing with OCD is I've heard people randomly use that term inappropriately.


I suppose that's what I hear a lot too, but the person saying it will say it like he really has it. Like "Oh yeah, I get really OCD about that kinda thing." And I always wanna say that you don't just "get OCD" about something. It's more complicated than that.

Hmmm. The 'hip' insult here seems to be referring to someone as being "ADHD". Nice, eh? :?


Insulting someone by calling them ADHD? That's pretty ridiculous. I don't even see how that would be all that insulting. I think it'd just confuse me. O.o



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09 Nov 2007, 3:06 pm

Panzyo wrote:
UncleBeer wrote:
Panzyo wrote:
Wolfpup wrote:
I've never heard of anyone talk about Asperger's OR OCD. Only thing with OCD is I've heard people randomly use that term inappropriately.


I suppose that's what I hear a lot too, but the person saying it will say it like he really has it. Like "Oh yeah, I get really OCD about that kinda thing." And I always wanna say that you don't just "get OCD" about something. It's more complicated than that.

Hmmm. The 'hip' insult here seems to be referring to someone as being "ADHD". Nice, eh? :?


Insulting someone by calling them ADHD? That's pretty ridiculous. I don't even see how that would be all that insulting. I think it'd just confuse me. O.o


When I have asked someone if they have ADHD, I usually get a response as if I have insulted them because ADHD is considered to be a "disorder." Personally, I'm glad to have it.


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09 Nov 2007, 6:06 pm

I agree that most of us are so obsessed with researching things that we have pretty throughly examined it, compared it to ourselves, contrasted it to our experience, and recognised ourselves within. I think who better to recognise ourselves, than us. I don't see the difference in me doing it and some doctor doing it except that they are supposed to be the experts.

I'm not any less valid than someone who has an official. I say once again that my son is officially dx'd and I am not. But all his weirdities are my own. So from that I still surmise that I am. Besides, most doctors are quacks anyway.


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09 Nov 2007, 6:20 pm

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I think who better to recognise ourselves, than us. I don't see the difference in me doing it and some doctor doing it except that they are supposed to be the experts.

Except that they have the luxury of being objective, and we don't.



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09 Nov 2007, 6:25 pm

Doctor's aren't always objective, and we're not always not objective.



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09 Nov 2007, 8:01 pm

"I think who better to recognise ourselves, than us. I don't see the difference in me doing it and some doctor doing it except that they are supposed to be the experts.

Except that they have the luxury of being objective, and we don't."

Well, then there's this:

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09 Nov 2007, 8:15 pm

Panzyo wrote:
Jellybean wrote:
Firstly, I thought OCD was the 'flavour of the month' or so to speak...


As did I. That or ADD.

Maybe I'm just not hanging out at the right places, but outside Wrong Planet I rarely hear talk of Autism and even less of Asperger's.


Or depression.

I've heard it out of here (and not related to anything I said) twice, both times in a news article. Perhaps it's simply the area I live in, but I'm quite sure that no one here would wish to be anywhere near the autism spectrum.

Just because not everyone can afford/find a doctor who specializes in autism spectrum disorders (or even knows of them) is making it up to be "popular" or different or to have an excuse or even just to fit in somewhere. I find it insulting when people (diagnosed or not) insinuate that.


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09 Nov 2007, 8:21 pm

UncleBeer wrote:
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I think who better to recognise ourselves, than us. I don't see the difference in me doing it and some doctor doing it except that they are supposed to be the experts.

Except that they have the luxury of being objective, and we don't.


Well, SOME AS people tend to look at themselves objectively and review their past. And I certainly do. For AS, I didn't know about the stims but WOW, I do them! The interests? Well, a lot of diagnosed people have the same type or the same ones. The demeanor? SAME! Nearly every other thing is less open to interpretation.

Still, maybe there WAS a way in which I wasn't objective. The idea of having a clinically significant problem in my life. Well, I DO tend to forget that I live to work and vice/versa. I'm almost like a hermit. I try to put up a good front, and *I* think I do. I actually fool MYSELF sometimes. Still, I think all this stuff tends to just help support the idea of AS.



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11 Nov 2007, 9:01 pm

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I don't know if it's so much the "syndrome of the month" as it is awareness that the general public didn't have as much of before.


You hit the nail on the head.


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