Why do ppl base intelligence on IQ scores?

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Incredibly late reply from me on this, but ehh... I'm often seeing programs where men and women would bicker over which is the more intelligent gender, and to me it's stupid. IQ ain't based on gender, it's just the person, it's random.... I've taken IQ tests, and they've all been over 100, but I don't trust them to be right, and I don't think it's important enough to do a proper one... People could spend their whole life wondering whether they're intelligent or not, and it can really bother some people, but at the end of the day, we all have the same lifespan, whether we're genius standard or if we can't even do two plus two, there are so many things in life I rate as more important than a little number saying, "Yay, you're smart."

Good for you! Why should you let any amount facts or logic get in the way of your self-righteousness?

I think psychologists test IQ in people who have been deemed AS or AT to make sure its not actually some mental-retardation type problem (no offense intended).

The only indication anyone ever has of their problem-solving intelligence in relation to others is when one is confronted by a question to which the answer seems obvious, and yet has escaped the equally well educated and experienced questioner.

In the context of childhood, where *everyone* of the same age is being given the same formal education, an IQ test can determine if specific individuals are operating outside the window that the education is targeted at. If a student scores on the low end, then they need additional assistance. On the high end, they need additional challenge (or so the theory goes - more often than not it seems the educational system's solution to challenging a smart kid is to simply load the child down with extra work assignments - seems more like punishment as a result).

As we become adults, we specialize, and trying to determine an accurate IQ becomes impossible. A person who has studied linguistics is going to do better on a language skills assessment then one who has not. A trained artist has likely honed their visual and spatial skills dramatically compared to others of *equal* intelligence.

This does not diminish the fact that people do not have the same intellectual problem-solving IQ, and it's crucial acknowledge that standardized tests help direct educational and other public resources towards helping those in need of assistance. By the time we've reached the end of high-school, however, their usefulness is essentially at an end. While you may be *smarter* than someone else, our modern world has been so thoroughly compartmentalized and abstracted that perceived intelligence is usually not a mater of how bright you are. It is far more important that you be informed - that you have current and relevant information rattling around in your brain. A genius who is basing decisions on twenty-year-old information will certainly come across as a dullard.

Often, this is referred to as wisdom.

As we grow older, our wisdom compliments our raw, brute-force intelligence. We form our decisions less instinctively because we have knowledge as a road map. This is perhaps why the greatest scientists (and I suspect artists, though it is less documented) produce their most important works when they are young - wisdom has not yet colored their vision to the point that they simply say "that cannot be done".

I haven't come across a "standardized wisdom test", and by its very nature it would, I am certain, prove to be as inaccurate as virtually every internet IQ test out there. Similarly, there is no "standardized emotional intelligence test" - that would be an interesting exercise for us AS folk, since it would certainly promote a "how low can you go" anti-IQ score contest amongst some.

The notion that some folk flaunt their IQ as a means to give validity to their statements is simply absurd. The only thing one can use to gauge the validity of an argument is the argument itself. No amount of intellect-size-mud-slinging is going to change fact. Saying "my IQ is bigger than your IQ, therefore I am right" is comparable to shoving your thumbs in your ears and yelling "Nya! Nya! Nya! I can't hear you!"

While I don't think I can make an assessment of a person's IQ from that sort of behavior, I can certainly say that I am going to be more inclined to consider the validity of a thoughtful and well presented argument over baseless and ill-informed personal opinion.

Nick

Haha, that is pretty good. If only I could get the data that was blocking the way out of my head first then I could declare a life imprisoned to self righteousness.

hhhhuuuhhhhhhhhh????

you mean if you didn't think that you weren't self righteous then you would be but your not cuz you don't think so?

And besides, if you didn't think you were being wrong, then why did you say that the admin could take down the topic.....

Obviously this is an attempt to be self-righteous and confrontational in the simple fact that you said that its not and then again that you dont care.

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yes im very confused by this statement please explain in logical format

Why are drug users suppose to be weak of mind? they may be very intelligent people but have problems finding ways of dealing with other areas of life so substamce abuse results

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Sorry I edited after you posted yours (person above this one and fyi everyone else)

http://www.queendom.com/tests/access_page/index.htm?idRegTest=1121

I scored a 60, at the 0.38 percentile. The questions where you have to figure out what people are thinking in those photos are difficult.

Oddly enough, many people think I act very mature and responsible. But that's usually because I don't talk much.

Unlike online IQ tests, this didn't have the fun logic puzzles and is a good waste of 30 minutes. I still don't give the score much credibility.

IQ is the best indicator of intelligence we have. It's the single best predictor of how productive a person will be at his job. People with high IQs are less likely to get divorced, less likely to have health problems, more likely to have a spouse with a high IQ, more likely to be well educated, less likely to be in the correctional system, more likely to make more money than average, more likely to live longer.

Hey, thanks, better late than never.

One thing I wondered about on the IQ test that bugged me more than my gender, and that was I had not been trained in mathematics and I had been trained in Literature, so all the lit questions I aced but I couldn't do a math problem for squat. I wondered how much that brought me down.

Some things are not obvious. They sat me down at a box I had to peer into at geometric shapes and told me to 'chose the right one.' I made random choices not having any idea at all what that was about. What WAS that about?

Merle

Impossible! Brian does not "do" logic. He has his opinions, which are superior to the rest of ours, and there's no use explaining them to our small, weak minds. We just have to trust that he is superior because he's brilliant, despite what those worthless IQ tests say.

Ahahaha...

Everyone has opinions; and you most certainly do not have to agree with mine. In fact; you can totally 100% disagree with every single post I make and every single point I have ever made.

That doesn't make you dumb; it makes you human.

Everyone interprets real life situations from a different viewpoint and I don't expect people to think exactly the same way that I do.

And I guess I could call your post just as much "Prejudice" as I would label them as the way you think.

I said in the first post that I was Neurotypical so you automatically assumed that I was incapable of processing logical applications and that the only reason I posted in the first place was to reassure that I was better than everyone else.

That does go against the whole "All people are equal thing" but I guess you can think that way if you want.

Do you have any statistics or factual information to back this up?

And is making more money, going to school longer, and being more productive in the job market really what should be qualified to measure a persons "Intelligence"?

This seems like a very narrow definition; even to me .

That's not what frankwah said.