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So, do you think you can dance...
Yes, I am a good dancer 31%  31%  [ 47 ]
No, I have the dancing skills of a dead armadillo 50%  50%  [ 76 ]
I think I'm good at dancing, but everyone else thinks otherwise 5%  5%  [ 7 ]
What's dancing? 14%  14%  [ 21 ]
Total votes : 151

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11 Feb 2008, 9:56 pm

Specialforces wrote:
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But yeah, dancing is lame. I'd rather do karate!

karate is the lamest thing anyone could do.


I smell a troll. Mods?



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11 Feb 2008, 9:58 pm

Berserker wrote:
Specialforces wrote:
Berserker wrote:
But yeah, dancing is lame. I'd rather do karate!

karate is the lamest thing anyone could do.


I smell a troll. Mods?


Your nose may be too close to your armpits or something.



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11 Feb 2008, 10:46 pm

I knew at the beginning of Freshmen year I wasn't going to senior prom.



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11 Feb 2008, 10:56 pm

Uh-oh, cat fight. :cat: :shameonyou:

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I knew at the beginning of Freshmen year I wasn't going to senior prom.


I didn't go to my senior prom either, because I had no date and feared dancing. I shocked myself by getting out on the dance floor at that club, something I thought I'd never try, and I messed it up badly. :oops: I'm sorry if it's not a very inspirational story.


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11 Feb 2008, 11:33 pm

I can see how the motor issues might be a problem for a few people.
Other than that, formulaic dance (like ballroom dancing or jive or something) is very rhythmic and patterned, so I think that wouldn't be too horrendous to learn. I can do a little of that.
"Just Dancing," on the other hand (like at a club or a concert) is both public improvisation and social interaction, and I not only can't do it, I find it rather awful to be in that sort of situation. It seems to me like that might be the case for a number of aspies.
Just my point of view.



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12 Feb 2008, 12:25 am

Specialforces wrote:
Berserker wrote:
Specialforces wrote:
Berserker wrote:
But yeah, dancing is lame. I'd rather do karate!

karate is the lamest thing anyone could do.


I smell a troll. Mods?


Your nose may be too close to your armpits or something.


...Someone take care of this... I don't come to WP to listen to this mindless s***.


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12 Feb 2008, 12:31 am

KristaMeth, it's obviously a troll.



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12 Feb 2008, 2:44 am

Break out the Troll Traps! :twisted:


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12 Feb 2008, 4:41 am

I was a dance major in college. I love to dance. There is an inner beat with in me all the time. I got the moves.

Having said that; when I learned of asperger's and being clumsy or jerky, I thought first that was not me because ' I am graceful'. But then I realized that is when I dance. In the real world I trip on side walks, carpets or bump into trees, walls, tables. It is so bad if it is raining or there is ice my family members want to hold on to me.



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12 Feb 2008, 5:40 am

KristaMeth wrote:
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A funny thing about dance classes, is that I always get confused as to left and right. Also, while taking ballet, I would always end up doing a step the opposite of the way it should be done. It's as if I have a giant backward mirror in my brain, LOL.


I HATE THAT. Haha... you should see me following an exercise video. Everything is backwards. My brain is not capable of comprehending that their left/right is opposite of mind. And by the time I've made the concious effort to switch over and do the exercise correctly, they're already on a new one :P


I have that problem too.


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12 Feb 2008, 8:39 am

I strive to be a professional dancer, la la la.

So, my answer would be that: yes, autistic people can dance. It depends more on motor skills, additional disabilities and everything that can hinder any other person from dancing too.

There's likely to be a problem about dancing though:

Imitation.

The ability to imitate another person. Two things about this.

I tell you, I can't imitate my trainer or the other dancers. All other people at my school learn by imitating the teacher and the other dancers. That's how you learn a choreography in my school, that's how everybody learns it but me. There is an interesting thing about this.

While the other dancers have truly mastered imitation to a degree that they can dance a choreo at the first or second try (by watching the teacher while dancing), they don't know the choreography themselves. Their mind hasn't stored enough information in order to enable them to dance the choreo alone. When they try this - they can't.

I on the one hand am naturally a slow learner by imitation. That's one of my greatest deficits (and typically autistic as far as I know). On the other hand, when I can dance the choreo finally - I can do it, all by myself, because I know it for myself while at the same time, the other dancers still can't do it all.



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12 Feb 2008, 8:41 am

Why does dancing have to be about imitation? I would think there are some natural dancers who are creative enough to develop their own styles rather than simply follow others.



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12 Feb 2008, 8:52 am

Syd wrote:
Why does dancing have to be about imitation? I would think there are some natural dancers who are creative enough to develop their own styles rather than simply follow others.


It were lessons and full-blown choreographies I meant. Whether it's in a school or in a musical, everybody's got to learn the basic steps. That much is usually about imitation, especially if it's professional dancing in ensembles.

Of course, you're right, in the end, dancing has to be about creativity. This is something I think everyone who starts dancing has to realise at some point. It's no use just imitating and learning the basic steps, because what counts in dancing is how these movements are expressed by your own body and mind.

It's funny that must new students try to truley imitate their teachers beyond the choreo, trying to imitate their teacher's every movement, every expression. That can look good to a public, amaze people and all that, but it's horrible if you yourself are asked to dance in your very own style coming from your very own soul.

I wish dancing wouldn't be as much about conformity as it is today, sadly.



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12 Feb 2008, 9:52 am

Very true sora.

I sometimes get distracted if I watch an instructor. I have to close my eyes and recreate the moves/forms in my head and translate it analytically, then do it.

Stupid mirror neurons. At least, I hope it's the mirror neurons. Because if they're alright... I am SUCH an unco!



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12 Feb 2008, 1:57 pm

I couldn't follow dance steps if my life depended on it. Can't imitate the movements, can't memorize the routine. I can move to music on my own, though. Club dancing is fun (if I'm drunk) and I'm pretty good at it (or at least I think I am, because I'm drunk).



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12 Feb 2008, 4:54 pm

Izaak wrote:
I sometimes get distracted if I watch an instructor. I have to close my eyes and recreate the moves/forms in my head and translate it analytically, then do it.

I tend to analyse the movements of instructuctor too and it is not easy for me to remember them and repeat under fast music. But, IMHO, improvization is even harder than ballroom dance classes. And extracting rhythms from dance music is not always obvious and fluent; listen music and dance is definetly a sort of multitasking. I don't care if it is a bug of "mirror neurons" - I have a lot of other neurons.

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But yeah, dancing is lame. I'd rather do karate!

Are you doing karate? And I disagree with you - dance is a nice thing, but slightly strange and complicated. I enjoy learning some of ballroom dances.