Are there any aspies that are NOT politically correct?

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This "political correctness" thing is even more complicated than the "offensiveness" thing we debated here not long ago, though it's strongly related to it.

I sometimes disapprove of it, e.g. the "person-first" thing which says we're not allowed to say "autistic people" but must always say "people who have autism." I get the point, but it's just too cumbersome to comply, and it makes for a clumsy talking and writing style. It's also disturbing if you can't get an essay accepted without complying, which I think is sometimes the case. That brings the notion of control into things, and raises questions about who makes these decisions and how accountable they are.

I was once called out for being politically correct because I'd mentioned that certain behaviour encouraged people to view women as sex objects. It's possible that my critic took exception to my using the phrase because it's become an emotive phrase - people tend to automatically think, "Sex objects? Oh yes that's bad isn't it, so the author must have a point" instead of thinking about it. But equally, using the term "politically correct" is dodgy too, for the same reason. I would actually have expanded on what I meant by sex objects, but I had to keep my communication short.

I'm also wary of siding with the "anti-PC brigade" because it's been used so much by the right wing in a very dishonest way - e.g. tabloid headlines proclaiming "political correctness gone mad" to hammer home the point of their story that some "loony leftie" was trying to suppress some aspect of Christmas so as not to offend the Muslims. Most of the time the stories turned out to be complete lies.

It's hard to know where the line is between sincerely using a commonly-understood shorthand phrase and disingenuously using it for its emotive propaganda value. I prefer to communicate my ideas in a dry, detailed manner, but as Hitler discovered, few people listen to that kind of stuff.

From what I understand being "politically correct" means not saying something that belittles or offends a large group of people for something innocuous like being from a particular race, sexual orientation, disability, or religion (as long as they refrain from evangelizing to and judging other people). Basically being aware of your language and trying not to needlessly or accidentally insult someone.

I don't know why there is such a controversy over this. What is so hard about avoiding hurtful words and calling people what they want to be called?

Does calling someone stupid instead on ignorant an example of not being politically correct? If so, then I'm not politically correct most of the time.

Nope. You're good, but if you had used the word "ret*d" instead then not so much.

I too prefer things to be nice, and I don't have much trouble with it myself. I think it's when it gets extreme that the trouble starts with many people. People find they're being expected to do too much to avoid causing some or other imagined offense, they get sick of having to pussyfoot around, and the whole PC thing starts to look like it's becoming more oppressive than the oppression it's supposed to be preventing. It's "no, you can't have a golliwog, you can't sing The Blackleg Miner, you can't say you think religion is bunk, you can't say you don't want a multicultural society, you can't say handicapped." It does get hard to avoid hurtful words if we can't say the slightest little thing without offending somebody. Then there's a reaction the other way, and what started out as a fine idea (i.e. "let's have a bit of sensitivity") is at risk of getting thrown out completely. Bullies and other fascists, who want to go back to everything being cruel and brash, wade in and fan the flames. That's why I think the whole PC thing gets to be a very thorny issue for a lot of people.

While it could be argued that I am "PC" in some ways, I actually find political correctness to be quite idiotic. Political correctness is just the left's version of the right's puritanism, and both are as lame as one another. I mean, I may not support racism, sexism, or homophobia, but I also don't support beating around the bush about things.

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I'm definitely not politically correct, and I miss the less hysterical ways of the 1980's and 1990's.

I'm not PC and can think of several others here who aren't either. I say what I mean and mean what I say usually. I don't want to offend and try not to but I'm not gonna jump through ridiculous verbal hoops for it. Not offending and not being offended both require some effort. People can't sit back and rip off every emotional scab they have and then expect everybody else in the world to tiptoe around them. We all have to learn when to take something seriously and when not to. Some things just aren't worth it, and some things aren't offensive unless you twist it seventeen ways from Sunday and look at it through two pairs of glasses and hold your mouth just right, and even then it only offends eight people. So, no I'm not. But I'm not a douchebag either.

In an ideal world, I will probably give political correctness the finger.

It is, in my opinion, the most pointless thing ever. I mean, if people want to be offended, they can b***h and moan about absolutely everything, be that names, symbolism etc. It's another thing politicians do when they cannot be arsed to solve the actual problem.

I mean, seriously, renaming "policeman" to "police officer" does not magically remove sexism. And if you are offended by that, grow a f-ing pair. There are worst problems in the world than some naming convention.

Sadly, the world is not to my ideals. People, NTs or not, can be annoyingly sensitive, and proceed to be horrified by every little word (but somehow oblivious to all the pointless profiteering and murdering, but I digress). So I play along.

I am, however, significantly less PC when around close friends.

I think the term "political correctness" itself makes no sense, because the goal of it isn't to be correct or accurate in any way, it's all about trying not to offend people, as if one person's feelings are somehow everyone else's responsibility. It's about feelings, not logic or "correctness".

Thats exactly what they want! For us all to be completely responsible for each other and I don't want any part of that! I'll take care of me just fine, thank you. It's an offshoot of that whole it takes a village BS.

Well I don't obsess over it, but if I know a certain wording is bound to offend I am not going to use that wording if there is less offensive wording to express my thoughts.

And what exactly infuriates you...people speaking out about injustice or injustice itself? and what do you mean people standing up for law breakers without good cause? just confusing to me what exactly you meant.

I know you weren't asking me, but I wanted to post to your post anyway.

I won't use wording I know will offend someone I'm talking to either. However, I don't want to make it illegal to say it or for it to be something I would be fired over unless it was a well defined slur of some sort and not just something somebody now decided they don't like. In other words, I have absolutely no desire to call anyone a <insert your favorite politically correct insult or name here> but I want to be able to without going to jail, paying a fine, getting sued, or losing my job if I say it off the clock and off company property (assuming I actually worked).

I don't mind people speaking out about injustice. We SHOULD speak out against it. However we need to seriously recalibrate injustice and offense in this society. We seriously do. We let a whole lot of s**t go by and complain about piddly other s**t. Nobody will listen to me or change society cause of something I say though, so it doesn't matter.

I don't filter or censor myself in thought altho I doubt anybody is that PC, it would be a religion at that point. IRL I usually tell people what they want to hear, I don't see any advantage in offending people and I would hope they would extend the same courtesy to me. There are a time and place for everything, sometimes it is best to try not to rock the boat. I'll rock that boat when I own it.

No you won't because by then they will have passed laws making it illegal lol. That's what I'm against.

Also, some people DO CENSOR their thoughts, or try to. They take it that seriously and actually think they are doing good and helping people by making us so sensitive and fragile and thin skinned that we have to pass laws about words. I'm not saying that we need to go around saying these things to toughen people up. as*holes do that. But they do it and almost all of us learn to blow them off and tell them to f**k themselves or ignore them. I'm very sorry that some don't, but those who do get a slightly thicker skin. That is a good thing. We shouldn't make the law for the weakest person we should make it for the average person and expect the stronger to defend the weak. That does happen probably more than you think but less than it should. I would defend somebody, because I have been weak and defended before. However, how in the hell could we ever expect to win a war when we are such weak people that we have to pass laws to prevent our feelings from being hurt?

For those who say "I am that weak person and I want the law to protect my feelings" I have this to say; I want laws to change to help me out as well but I know why they don't and it's better for the entire country in general that we have that f*****g car insurance law and that I can't buy whatever the hell I want at the drug store and that nobody forced the military to take me even though my thyroid wouldn't have bothered anything, etc. Once you start accommodating the weakest or the poorest or the most whatever instead of the average person (not the richest either, yeah I know, tax law, that's a whole different thing I'm not even thinking about now, I'm talking criminal and civil law like this) you end up with a country run like a nursery school instead of a functioning society and everybody starts expecting to be coddled and for everybody else to put them first instead of all working together. Basically my point to you folks is I've been there and am there about some things, but not my feelings. It sucks sometimes. It sucks sometimes for everybody no matter who you are. There is no way around it and if your feelings weren't getting hurt and I didn't have to deal with car insurance and the government gave this one this and that one that then we would just have something else that seemed just as important to b***h about a year and a half later, at the latest. I know I would and if you say you wouldn't then you are either lying to yourself or to me. Cause once the big problem you are thinking about is gone, you start focusing on smaller ones and they seem more important as time goes on. So, no. You shouldn't be treated badly and you should either learn to stand up for yourself or somebody should do it for you, but it shouldn't be illegal for somebody else to say something that upsets you. Just like it's best I scrape up my insurance money every month for the car insurance when we get another car, which we won't be able to afford to do (insurance that is, SIL will give him some of his money for the car but not the insurance, what a b***h it's his money before long anyway)

So that is what I think about it. I'm not mean or cold or offensive like that. But we need to keep feelings to ourselves and those around us who can help us with them and they should stay completely out of any government crap.