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13 Aug 2008, 12:50 pm

"Everybody lies" - Dr. Gregory House.


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13 Aug 2008, 12:54 pm

The below statement is false.
The above statement is true.

(sorry if someone else already posted)



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13 Aug 2008, 12:55 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
I still stand by my statement.

I would advise not to be that certain about it, and consider that that can actually happen, you could get disappointed big time and it could be painfully surprising if you have that conviction. What I mean, is to consider the possibility.


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13 Aug 2008, 1:09 pm

Atomsk wrote:
(sorry if someone else already posted)

Several people have already posted in this thread, and that's not a lie, honest!


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13 Aug 2008, 1:26 pm

asperience wrote:

One of the big areas I struggle with these days is hiding my AS life from NTs. These days a large portion of my socialization is with other Aspies, and many of them are "closeted" high functioning Aspies. They don't want their NT friends to know they are AS, so I live in constant fear of having an NT friend of my AS friend ask "so how did you meet [the AS friend]?" And having to lie to avoid the truth that we met at an AS meeting. Even if I have days to think of an excuse, I just can't bring myself to say something false, and I can't figure out a way of avoiding the question, so I really feel trapped.

Any suggestions from those who say you're good liars on how to answer "where did you meet so and so" if you don't want to say?


For me, I talk around the question till I find a better question that I can actually answer. People do know I'm beating around the bush tho, so I wouldn't say it's convincing, just makes life easier for myself. I use another tactic if my brain's running quickly-the art of half truth. If there was coffee being served there, maybe you could say you struck up a conversation while getting coffee. Perfectly true, eh? Leave out the details, and you can jump straight into the discussion you had, and totally leave that nasty little question behind. My mind isn't that quick all the time tho, but this has worked to avoid many a question.


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13 Aug 2008, 1:42 pm

That is so strange. If an NT friend cannot even tell you have AS does this mean you actually have AS? If no one could tell I was different, would I still think of myself as different?

My biggest problem is convincing people I am more like them than they realize. If you have AS and no one can tell then why not try to connect with the people around you regardless of what they "have"?



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13 Aug 2008, 1:54 pm

I can lie extreemly well. People can't tell when I'm telling the truth because of my facial expression.



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13 Aug 2008, 5:21 pm

I am very good at deadpan. I can start talking about something that is completely untrue and ridiculous, but because of my serious expression and tone of voice, I can confuse people very easily. In fact, some have said that I sound mildly sarcastic all the time, so it's hard to tell if I'm lying or not.


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13 Aug 2008, 5:31 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
That is so strange. If an NT friend cannot even tell you have AS does this mean you actually have AS? If no one could tell I was different, would I still think of myself as different?

My biggest problem is convincing people I am more like them than they realize. If you have AS and no one can tell then why not try to connect with the people around you regardless of what they "have"?


I am different! People KNOW I am different! Some AS people that KNOW me have said I DO seem like I could have AS. Knowing what I know about AS, I can't believe that people familiar with AS don't even suspect. Maybe they just never asked me. Just today, I stuttered. I seemed to not like talking. I ALWAYS walk AROUND people. I sit away from people, etc...

Yet people make fun or mock at best.

Frankly, a number of people I have met that have AS are not THAT obviously different/autistic.



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13 Aug 2008, 5:44 pm

Hodor wrote:
I am very good at deadpan. I can start talking about something that is completely untrue and ridiculous, but because of my serious expression and tone of voice, I can confuse people very easily. In fact, some have said that I sound mildly sarcastic all the time, so it's hard to tell if I'm lying or not.


Yes. This.



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13 Aug 2008, 6:44 pm

BallisticMystic wrote:
"I'm a Liar who hates Liars"

Try doing the math on that one and make it true. You can't, but it IS a true statement.


You hate yourself? :wink:

asperience, just say you met them at a social gathering, or say you met them at the location of the meeting (restaurant, hotel, etc.). There's no need to go into any detail.


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13 Aug 2008, 6:59 pm

I lie sometimes but it is so rare that I do and I always feel guilty because lying is bad no matter how you look at it.

Now then I think that we lie less than NTs in general don't ask me why I think this I just do. Anyone got any idea about who lies more us or NTs?



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13 Aug 2008, 8:22 pm

philosopherBoi wrote:
Anyone got any idea about who lies more us or NTs?

Does a bear crap in the woods?
Society is based on lies. It's one, huge, complex, mass hallucination.
Can you say "the Matrix"?


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13 Aug 2008, 9:31 pm

Well they say one of the aspies biggest social problems is that the average NT tells 14 lies a day and the aspie doesn't (ie "great to meet you" when you could care less about the person you are meeting) so it would make sense that nt lie more. Also aspies are known for being bluntly honest in situations where an NT would typically lie - "You hairsyle makes it look like you have a squirrel on your head"



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13 Aug 2008, 10:09 pm

I rarely lie because I hate to do it...however, I have and have gotten away with it because I am very straight faced and I also appear innocent I've been told. (Big eyes, shy, etc.) That and I don't show emotion, so people believe it.


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13 Aug 2008, 10:16 pm

I made a promise to myself multiple years ago, I can't remember how many, but since then I haven't really told many lies, I have omitted information or given an answer that is close to the one that matches for an ideal response.

I've known a long time before I knew of asperger's that I was different, I just didn't know how or why