So why is there no psychopath awareness?

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19 Jun 2014, 2:17 pm

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I do not know what to make of the guy who owns that blog. I think he must be really off his nut. I mean, who would be proud of having no empathy for other people?


A psychopath.

I remember Ted Bundy bragging about how he was "the most coldhearted person you could ever meet" (or something like that).


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19 Jun 2014, 2:24 pm

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Just a few days ago someone on Youtube accused me of being a psycopath because I responded to someone's comment about vivesection and said a few things about that if I had to kill my pet or my neighbor, I would go for my neighbor. I mintioned how one of my neighbors was a horrible bully and that I would appricate any oppertunity to get them off my back for good. This is what they said:

"Even if your neighbor is a jerk, you would seriously kill him over your pet? And you consider this to be normal? Are you a psychopath or something? I love my pets myself, but for God's sake, I wouldn't put their lives even over some of the meanest people I've known in my life. But you say you would "appreciate" the chance to kill your neighbor for free. And again, you think that is normal?"

I never said it was normal, but I NEVER did care that much for people and never will and I f***ing HATE humaboos with every fiber of my being. I think I remember coming across various articles about how true psychopaths practiced on animals to test the waters before the graduated to people. Abusing an animal is only a crime because the criminal might graduate to real people one day. If these people simply stuck to toururing animals, there wouldn't be any SPCA or animal cruelty laws. No one really gives a flying f**k about animals and all these anti animal cruelty laws only exist to protect people. I've always been acused of being a psychopath because I valued the lives of animals over the lives of people and if the shoe fits, I'll wear it.


I don't know what your conversation was about exactly, and ignoring the "vivisection" part of it lol, but I wouldn't kill my pet that's for sure (granted I wouldn't want to kill the neighbor either, unless he/she is someone who tortures animals or humans, especially children ... but anyway, in reality, I would call the police and let them arrest them). I remember a few years ago there was a video of a kid who had beaten a poor dog almost to death (with a big stick), for no reason whatsoever, the little dog was running away from the kid thinking he was just playing, and then you see the kid after he managed to hit the dog, and he was pulling the unconscious dog by the tail (the owners actually had to put him to sleep because he was too damaged), and honestly I wanted to beat that kid very badly. In fact I still can't think of this without feeling very angry and sad.


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19 Jun 2014, 2:35 pm

I guess I must be a bit naive, but I really thought Autism Awareness Day was about compassion. Understanding people who are different and being kinder to them instead of bullying to them. Showing understanding toward people who are NOT HARMFUL (versus a psychopath). Having an awareness of difference and showing more tolerance. Had I gotten that all wrong??



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21 Jun 2014, 4:35 am

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Why is there no "awareness" spread for those that are actually out to harm?


What do you want? Some sort of psychopath witch hunt to round them up and lock them away? Who would you vote for? Who would keep corporate capitalism on track? Who would join the military and police?



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21 Jun 2014, 4:58 am

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I guess I must be a bit naive, but I really thought Autism Awareness Day was about compassion. Understanding people who are different and being kinder to them instead of bullying to them. Showing understanding toward people who are NOT HARMFUL (versus a psychopath). Having an awareness of difference and showing more tolerance. Had I gotten that all wrong??



You got it totally right.

Psychopaths and especially sociopaths use charm as their most lethal weapon, rather proved by how popular sociopathworld is!


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21 Jun 2014, 4:53 pm

Psychopaths tend to be positions of power.



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21 Jun 2014, 9:43 pm

Whoah, WHOAH, Dan_Undiagnosed! "Who would join the military and police?" Seriously?

I can understand not liking police: Some of them are on the take, especially near the mexican border. Some of them are a**holes, but hey, that's the human population- of course they'd be represented there too. Even the military: some of them are dumba**es, and not many of them are of the enlisted persuasion. But to imply to be either is to be a psychopath? The nicest person I've ever met is a military cop. Blanket statements when regarding living creatures are never a good thing.



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21 Jun 2014, 11:18 pm

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Whoah, WHOAH, Dan_Undiagnosed! "Who would join the military and police?" Seriously?

I can understand not liking police: Some of them are on the take, especially near the mexican border. Some of them are a**holes, but hey, that's the human population- of course they'd be represented there too. Even the military: some of them are dumba**es, and not many of them are of the enlisted persuasion. But to imply to be either is to be a psychopath? The nicest person I've ever met is a military cop. Blanket statements when regarding living creatures are never a good thing.


I take your point but a certain type of person is usually drawn to a profession where there is the likelihood of gunning another person down. The special forces community especially is seen by some psychologists as being rife with 'pro social' psychopaths. They're the people who can keep a lid on the more self destructive traits of anti social PD but can still cut a Taliban member's throat then get to a deep dark restful sleep that night without so much as a stir. Politicians, advertising and the corporate world are also thought to exhibit higher levels of antisocial PD than the general population. We're still talking a minority of people in those fields but they often rise to the top and direct the culture and direction of these fields. It's why we in the west can scream freedom, democracy and peace while blowing up women and kids by the tens of thousands. The political, corporate, media and military worlds are stacked with the right psychos to get the job done.



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22 Jun 2014, 1:08 am

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Check this guy out. He is a sociopath himself. He has been talking about us aspies.

http://www.sociopathworld.com/search?q=aspies
http://www.sociopathworld.com/


Wow, he even admitted he claims to be aspie sometimes. I wonder if he ever posted here.

BTW I saw your post being quoted here:

http://www.sociopathworld.com/2008/12/m ... dback.html

You're famous. :wink:


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22 Jun 2014, 1:26 am

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Psychopaths tend to be positions of power.
They do. But... I don't envy them.

They can never trust anybody. Their relationships aren't intimate connections--when other people love them, they don't love back. People love what they seem to be, but never love them for who they really are. They can seek pleasure, but they can never connect with anything larger than themselves.

Fundamentally, a psychopath or sociopath is always alone--never any true friends, never any real love, never anything more important than their own desires or their own pleasure. They will never know what it is like to care about someone else, to be happy simply because someone else is happy. In the most important sense, they are more alone than the most socially awkward autistic person will ever be, no matter how much power they accumulate.

These are people who can never know the joy of giving without expecting anything in return, of helping in secret, knowing that someone else will be happier because of what you did. When they have to give something up for someone else, they can't be comforted by the knowledge that the other person has benefited from it. They can't take joy in someone else's good fortune. They can feel only their own pleasure, never anyone else's.

But at least it also means they don't know what they're missing--most of them don't suffer, because they don't want what they can't have. One of life's small mercies, I suppose.

I almost wonder whether we oughtn't to call sociopathy a disability, even when people are stable and mature and not committing crimes or hurting anybody because they know it won't benefit them, because they're missing a fundamental human ability just the way a deaf person is missing the ability to hear even though they can communicate in other ways... If it is a disability, maybe I oughtn't to pity them for it, any more than I want others to pity me for being autistic.


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22 Jun 2014, 2:03 am

Callista wrote:
Fundamentally, a psychopath or sociopath is always alone--never any true friends, never any real love, never anything more important than their own desires or their own pleasure.

I just wanted to comment about this part, other than that I agree with you.

If I judge from what I have seen (not an expert in psychopathy tho, its just my personal opinion), eventho it is probably true that they don't have many real friends, some do have friends (and sometimes many of them, but they are usually friends who are devoted to them, or as psychopatic as they are in some way, or else they wouldn't be friends with them but you're right they don't actually love back), and it seems many of them even get married and have children. There is also different "types" of psychopath, from the one who simply doesn't feel empathy but doesn't have murdering urges, to the psychopath/murderer, from guys like Jordan Belfort (Wolf of Wallstreet, p.s. I don't know if he is actually a psychopath, but he seems to have the traits of a psychopath, i.e. no sympathy for others - and I use the word "sympathy" intentionally, as I think they have "empathy", because they often know very well how to manipulate people), to guys like Ted Bundy (I think he had other conditions as well tho).


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26 Jun 2014, 11:50 am

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cubedemon6073 wrote:
Check this guy out. He is a sociopath himself. He has been talking about us aspies.

http://www.sociopathworld.com/search?q=aspies
http://www.sociopathworld.com/


Wow, he even admitted he claims to be aspie sometimes. I wonder if he ever posted here.

BTW I saw your post being quoted here:

http://www.sociopathworld.com/2008/12/m ... dback.html

You're famous. :wink:


Well indeed, the game is afoot. I was wrong about this sociopath's gender. This sociopath is a she and she has been on Dr. Phil as well.

She likes to go by M.E. Thomas. https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=M.E.+Thomas



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26 Jun 2014, 9:58 pm

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I have autism and sick and tired of hearing about autism awareness and views that we are just a plague that needs to be rid of when there are actual dangerous people that charm, manipulate con and murder. Why is there no "awareness" spread for those that are actually out to harm?


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27 Jun 2014, 9:54 pm

cubedemon6073 wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
cubedemon6073 wrote:
Check this guy out. He is a sociopath himself. He has been talking about us aspies.

http://www.sociopathworld.com/search?q=aspies
http://www.sociopathworld.com/


Wow, he even admitted he claims to be aspie sometimes. I wonder if he ever posted here.

BTW I saw your post being quoted here:

http://www.sociopathworld.com/2008/12/m ... dback.html

You're famous. :wink:


Well indeed, the game is afoot. I was wrong about this sociopath's gender. This sociopath is a she and she has been on Dr. Phil as well.

She likes to go by M.E. Thomas. https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=M.E.+Thomas


I watched a clip of her on Dr Phil. She seems like a total idiot. She could even be faking it just to make money, which in itself would be pretty callous. But she uses anonymity and so there's no way to confirm her diagnosis nor her stories about burning bridges in her life every 2-3 years. In fact if she had been diagnosed why would she say she was diagnosed as a sociopath? I thought the psychological community now preferred to say anti social personality disorder.



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28 Jun 2014, 9:02 am

Dan_Undiagnosed wrote:
cubedemon6073 wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
cubedemon6073 wrote:
Check this guy out. He is a sociopath himself. He has been talking about us aspies.

http://www.sociopathworld.com/search?q=aspies
http://www.sociopathworld.com/


Wow, he even admitted he claims to be aspie sometimes. I wonder if he ever posted here.

BTW I saw your post being quoted here:

http://www.sociopathworld.com/2008/12/m ... dback.html

You're famous. :wink:


Well indeed, the game is afoot. I was wrong about this sociopath's gender. This sociopath is a she and she has been on Dr. Phil as well.

She likes to go by M.E. Thomas. https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=M.E.+Thomas


I watched a clip of her on Dr Phil. She seems like a total idiot. She could even be faking it just to make money, which in itself would be pretty callous. But she uses anonymity and so there's no way to confirm her diagnosis nor her stories about burning bridges in her life every 2-3 years. In fact if she had been diagnosed why would she say she was diagnosed as a sociopath? I thought the psychological community now preferred to say anti social personality disorder.


Because she has narcissistic tendencies and she claims to hate narcissists. Go figure! She is a walking contradiction which she has successfully portrayed.



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28 Jun 2014, 10:11 am

Dan_Undiagnosed wrote:
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Whoah, WHOAH, Dan_Undiagnosed! "Who would join the military and police?" Seriously?

I can understand not liking police: Some of them are on the take, especially near the mexican border. Some of them are a**holes, but hey, that's the human population- of course they'd be represented there too. Even the military: some of them are dumba**es, and not many of them are of the enlisted persuasion. But to imply to be either is to be a psychopath? The nicest person I've ever met is a military cop. Blanket statements when regarding living creatures are never a good thing.


I take your point but a certain type of person is usually drawn to a profession where there is the likelihood of gunning another person down. The special forces community especially is seen by some psychologists as being rife with 'pro social' psychopaths. They're the people who can keep a lid on the more self destructive traits of anti social PD but can still cut a Taliban member's throat then get to a deep dark restful sleep that night without so much as a stir. Politicians, advertising and the corporate world are also thought to exhibit higher levels of antisocial PD than the general population. We're still talking a minority of people in those fields but they often rise to the top and direct the culture and direction of these fields. It's why we in the west can scream freedom, democracy and peace while blowing up women and kids by the tens of thousands. The political, corporate, media and military worlds are stacked with the right psychos to get the job done.


I was in the military and I am definitely not a psychopath......... :?


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