Are all aspies atheists -- or is it just me?

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15 Dec 2008, 7:36 pm

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But I am also highly respectful of those who do believe and I believe that freedom to believe in religion is vital, even if I'm not religious myself.

I agree, the freedom anyone has to believe in whatever they want, is to be respected and is their right.

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All beliefs in everything require at least a small amount of faith. If you are unable to believe in something if it requires faith then you would have to believe in absolutely nothing.

I believe in nothing, well, almost :P
Anyway, your are right, no one can claim to lack faith unless they are either strong philosophical skeptics or perhaps solipsists, even so, I wonder if a human being can actually exist 100% faith free about any aspect.


I am pretty sure that top quote was not from me.



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16 Dec 2008, 12:48 am

I love threads like this.

I think it is the Aspie nature to talk bluntly about these topics. In doing so, one may see more athiests and agnostics than in a setting filled with NTs. Why? Perhaps people with AS say things that from their perspective should just be matter of fact, or they are unaware that other people may judge them one way or another.

I am a product of Catholic education. Most of my life I thought of athiests as people who might enjoy running around nursing homes proclaiming the non-existance of God and scaring the crap out of the near dead. I know this is a bad stereotype, but that is how I picture Stephen Hawking when he isn't on Larry King selling books.

I am not a practicing Catholic, and my views on religion are constantly evolving. I might best be described as a Diest.

Perhaps St. Thomas Aquinas got it right in suggesting that something must have put all of this in motion. Anyway, everything we see, hear, think, etc..., is limited by our human perspective. What do we really know? We will never know anything that is beyond the limitations of the human mind and conciousness. If this is true, and I believe it to be an objective fact, then no amount of philosophy, or physics will ever be able to explain the lack of or existance of God. If you have faith, you should have it. If you don't, you should probably not have it. Be true to yourself and let everyone else to their own devices.



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16 Dec 2008, 2:06 am

I was raised in a regular churchgoing family but I’m not sure I ever really had strong faith. I gave up on trying to have a Christian faith when I was about 14. Most religions just look a bit haphazard to me. Also, the god of the bible appears to have been created in the image of an NT. I just can’t picture the creator of the universe being pissed off that people do not worship he/she/it as he/she/it commands. Religion just doesn’t make sense to me and doesn’t fit in to how I think about the universe on an intuitive level.



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16 Dec 2008, 2:16 am

Tortuga wrote:
Being smart and logical doesn't preclude a person from being spiritual and having faith in the unseen.


Yes, exactly. My dad is one of the most logical people I know; I'd go so far as to say he's a borderline genius. He is also a very devout Catholic.



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16 Dec 2008, 2:18 am

my dad is christian and probably the most illogical person I have ever met
sometimes it is just so funny

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16 Dec 2008, 2:20 am

I'm a southern baptist, and I believe in God. DO NOT stereotype "ASPIES".



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16 Dec 2008, 2:47 am

I'm aspie and I'm certainly not atheist by any means.



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16 Dec 2008, 3:35 am

Despite being athiest myself, I find solace in the fact that there is a lot of religious diversity among Aspies. To me, it indicates how unique and different we all are, and puts pay to silly notions that we all think the same way just because we are autistic.


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16 Dec 2008, 4:52 am

IdahoRose wrote:
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Being smart and logical doesn't preclude a person from being spiritual and having faith in the unseen.

Yes, exactly. My dad is one of the most logical people I know; I'd go so far as to say he's a borderline genius. He is also a very devout Catholic.

Darwin was a churchgong Christian all his life, yet his science was as objective as it gets. Apparently it's normal for the human mind to have a logic-tight barrier between mutually inconsistent stuff.
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the god of the bible appears to have been created in the image of an NT. I just can’t picture the creator of the universe being pissed off that people do not worship he/she/it as he/she/it commands.

I always wondered what this "worship" thing was supposed to be for. Looking at the words of hymns and prayers, the mst common element seems to be a reassurance to the deity of his supremacy and general coolness. I couldn't believe the almighty could be so insecure as to need that, so I figured that the words must be aimed at the worshipper, as a propaganda thing. Even that seemed hard to believe, as being forced to sing hymns for years never had the slightest effect on my beliefs, but I came to realise that most people are more suggestible than I am, and that these things were probably more effective on traditional, rural cultures.



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16 Dec 2008, 6:26 am

Not all Aspies are athiests.


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18 Dec 2008, 9:08 pm

Not this one either. Im happily a Christian.



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16 Feb 2010, 6:49 am

I am a scientific pantheist so I guess that make me an atheist. Scientific pantheism draws attention to what I do believe in and that is the physical properties of the universe as being complete within itself and created by the forces of nature alone. Atheism draws attention to what I don't believe which is a supernatural creator being behind it all.



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16 Feb 2010, 6:51 am

I had a christian upbringing and still believe in God. I believe in evolution too though.


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16 Feb 2010, 7:16 am

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16 Feb 2010, 7:24 am

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Faith doesn't work for me, it's not an emotion and it smells like a faulty, man-made construct. I recall being given the idea of faith for the first time at school. I felt that I was never going to be able to blot out my genuine doubts, and thought that probably meant that if there was a god, he'd notice that and I'd not make the grade.


Faith never worked for me eighter. Another thing is experience , and i have had deep and profound spritual experiences , both using pychedelics and with yoga and kiirtan (chanting mantra).

But the last ten years of my life have been a fatiguing battle not alloving me to do consitent spititual practice. I miss that feeling of meaning , syncronicity wholeness so much it hurts sometimes, it has become mostly a memory now.
This has cased me to become more and more agnostic as i cant rely on memories of experiences, like my mind had dried up and got caught of in the mundane and finite due to lack of nourishment from the source and the soul.
Altough im frustrated about it, i dont worry to much, all things has its time in life. If it was really there then,its always there and here..And then its just a matter of seeing trough the veil.


I've dabbled with meditation too, and think it can be a worthwhile pursuit, though for me the word "spiritual" is as meaningless as the word "faith." I'd say that I meditate in order to promote emotional well-being. If I'm physically and emotionally OK, then I don't think there are any more boxes that need ticking. But it's a useful word for conveying meaning allegorically....like I sometimes say things like "I feel it in my soul that....." although in my view there is no soul. Just that it's a snazzier way to talk, a little less cold and nerdy than "I believe extremely strongly that..." Where's the artistic merit in those words? Which phrase conveys the meaning more immediately? Which is the more fun?



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16 Feb 2010, 7:26 am

I used to be an atheist, until I read about agnosticism.