Do you sometimes feel that AS is a made up disorder?

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07 Jan 2009, 5:12 pm

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Homosexuality used to be considered a disorder. It was removed from the DSM because it's no longer considered a disorder. But that doesn't make it any less real.


The big difference is that I can give a guy a hummer and there is no question that action more-or-less proves that I am gay. On the other hand, I can be rude, aloof and distant but that doesn't mean I am a person with Asperger's. I could just be a jerk. A gay jerk. 8)



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07 Jan 2009, 5:20 pm

Hummer... that's a new term for me. Oh, I figured out the gist of it easily enough. But only after briefly wondering how giving someone a particular type of vehicle shows one is gay. :)



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07 Jan 2009, 5:20 pm

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And if your "nothing I can do" didn't actually mean "nothing I can do", perhaps you should say what you mean.


There isn't anything you can do to permanently get rid of certain disorders. Medications can only do so much, same with therapy. Once you leave such things you will regress back to your condition or worse. With this economy, does anyone want to spend so much money on co-pays for medication or therapy? You might even have to sacrifice some treatments to be able to pay the bills. If you don't have insurance, sucks to be you.
Basically, now is the worst time to be sick or disabled in decades.



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07 Jan 2009, 5:23 pm

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And if your "nothing I can do" didn't actually mean "nothing I can do", perhaps you should say what you mean.


There isn't anything you can do to permanently get rid of certain disorders. Medications can only do so much, same with therapy. Once you leave such things you will regress back to your condition or worse. With this economy, does anyone want to spend so much money on co-pays for medication or therapy? You might even have to sacrifice some treatments to be able to pay the bills. If you don't have insurance, sucks to be you.
Basically, now is the worst time to be sick or disabled in decades.


Ah, but "nothing you can do to get rid of" and "nothing you can do" are two very different things.



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07 Jan 2009, 5:27 pm

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Hummer... that's a new term for me. Oh, I figured out the gist of it easily enough. But only after briefly wondering how giving someone a particular type of vehicle shows one is gay. :)


I could've said mouth-hug. :wink:



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07 Jan 2009, 5:35 pm

NocturnalQuilter wrote:
MR wrote:
Hummer... that's a new term for me. Oh, I figured out the gist of it easily enough. But only after briefly wondering how giving someone a particular type of vehicle shows one is gay. :)


I could've said mouth-hug. :wink:


I've heard the word 'hummer' before but actually, in the above I read it first as 'hammer'! And I was like 'wouldn't giving a guy tools be more likely to indicate that you are straight?'


Haha!



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07 Jan 2009, 5:38 pm

NocturnalQuilter wrote:
MR wrote:
Hummer... that's a new term for me. Oh, I figured out the gist of it easily enough. But only after briefly wondering how giving someone a particular type of vehicle shows one is gay. :)


I could've said mouth-hug. :wink:


I've heard hummer before, but never mouth-hug. I'm going to have to try to work that one into general conversation... lol



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07 Jan 2009, 6:21 pm

No, it's not fake. :roll:



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07 Jan 2009, 6:29 pm

I know Asperger's is real. I know there are things about the way my mind works that are different from the NT world. I have been married to a NT for 19 years, and I know AS is real. My wife knows AS is real---and she has always known I was different. Even though we that are Aspies are very different in many ways, it is interesting to note all the so-called symptoms that are similar in us---problems with social situations, intense narrow interests, taking things literally, etc. To say that Asperger's is made-up seems ridiculous to me because that would mean that me, and all the rest of the Aspies are purposely trying to act in a way to fit these symptoms just so we can explain our social awkwardness. And I am not pretending---I am the way I am and I cannot help it. Trust me---Asperger's is real.



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07 Jan 2009, 7:36 pm

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For along time neurologists thought that they had pinned down all the areas of the brain where certain functions were housed. It took them a while to figure out that there is wide varibility.


That's very true because they've also proven with some people that receive a brain injury at a early age are able to rewire their brains ie: the neurons will regenerate around the damaged area and make new connections in ways experts had never considered possible. The neuropsych told me that my brain rewired after the frontal lobe & right hemisphere damage so that the left hemisphere controls pretty much everything now. I've read in a few cases new "re-wiring" has been detected on imaging and the so called experts would be in shock because certain areas were controlling functions that seemed impossible.



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07 Jan 2009, 7:44 pm

I actually have some experience with this type of stuff since I was hit face on by a semi truck while riding my bike and smashed into the grille and pretty much smashed in about half of my brain in the accident. I was wearing a helmet.
It took about a year before I could walk and I still have some motor control issues but mentally I recovered very fast when the doctors thought I was toast.
The brain is extremly fluid in adapting to damage. what I thought was interesting is that it didn't change my condition in the least which has always made me wonder about the so-called modern science.


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07 Jan 2009, 7:48 pm

Sorry I don't buy the theory that before Aspergers was on the DSM that adults were mis-diagnosed with Schizophrenia. That's because I know most adults that grew up before Aspergers diagnosis was created just grew up undiagnosed with anything - period. They were just the weird, nerdy, eccentric people in town. Come on going to a psychologist was not as common when I was growing up or before that. People just thought they were weird and unliked by their fellow man so they become recluses and that was it. Nobody was out there "mis-diagnosing" the majority of the pre-DSM Aspies.

I was diagnosed at age 35, but had no previous mental or developmental diagnosis at all prior to that. When I was in kindergarten the teacher tried to say I was dyslexic but I hardly think that could be considered a "diagnosis". My whole family shows Aspie traits but none of them have any sort of mental diagnosis. I know people in their 50's who now know they are Aspies, but they had no prior mental diagnosis. The majority of us older Aspies were just overlooked members of society prior to the DSM and did not go see a doctor over their social akwardness.



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07 Jan 2009, 7:52 pm

I agree with Ticker, it was no big deal. Your were just weird and you sucked it up and dealt with it as best you could.


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07 Jan 2009, 8:00 pm

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I actually have some experience with this type of stuff since I was hit face on by a semi truck while riding my bike and smashed into the grille and pretty much smashed in about half of my brain in the accident. I was wearing a helmet.
It took about a year before I could walk and I still have some motor control issues but mentally I recovered very fast when the doctors thought I was toast.
The brain is extremly fluid in adapting to damage. what I thought was interesting is that it didn't change my condition in the least which has always made me wonder about the so-called modern science.


Wow Gary I didn't know you were part of the bumped noggin crowd too. Sounds like a nasty accident, did you have an open head injury from that one? Did you get a label for the motor control issues? Just wondering because I'm having more and more problems with walking and balancing and have been told I have ataxia, then no you're normal, yet I keep falling and tripping over thin air so now I'm being tested for dystonia and even muscular dystrophy.

What did you mean that your condition didn't changed? Do you mean you were still an Aspie after the accident? Sorry I didn't understand that one.



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07 Jan 2009, 8:04 pm

when I ride a bike or a cycle I now fall over when I make a sharp right hand turn. It was my left side that was smashed which was no big deal. who needs that crap to begin with. It made me aware that there is way more to autism than just the physical structure of the greymatter.


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07 Jan 2009, 8:23 pm

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I agree with Ticker, it was no big deal. Your were just weird and you sucked it up and dealt with it as best you could.


Just curious did you find it easier in your teens, twenties & early thirties to suck it up as you say ie:pretend to be normal, play the game, etc. Then as you approached 40 it began to be harder to pretend to be normal? I feel like there is some kinda regression that occurs in older autistics.