Are there any true geniuses here? (IQ over 155)

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16 Mar 2009, 10:11 pm

I think it looks to be a good progressive and positive aspect program for sure.


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16 Mar 2009, 10:14 pm

Well, anyway, it's another way of looking at genius, besides numerically.



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16 Mar 2009, 11:02 pm

Well, have you looked at outcome studies on gifted-by-IQ kids? They don't necessarily grow up to change the world or anything. They just generally grow up and get jobs and live their lives like any average-IQ person does.


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16 Mar 2009, 11:30 pm

When I was 11 I scored 165 on the Stanford Binet test. I don't think anyone uses that test anymore.

A few months ago I was tested on the WAIS as 82 which they said was "above average". I think WAIS tops out at 100, but I'm not positive. I've had 4 head injuries and have frontal lobe and right hemisphere brain injury as a young adult, so I don't know if that affected my more recent IQ test.

The most intelligent person in the world is suppose to be Marilyn Mach vos Savant who scored like 320-something. (326 I think)I don't know what scale that is on.



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16 Mar 2009, 11:49 pm

Wow that is one mother test taker. I am happy just getting out of the testing room without people laughing at me.


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17 Mar 2009, 12:12 am

the contemplation and practice and completion and scoring of IQ tests is so tedious for most creatively brilliant people that the notion is actually laughable.

i can just see Cezanne taking time out from a study of Mont-Sainte Victoire to busily answer question number 24 (with a pocket stopwatch of course.)

Vincent was said to answer his test by dipping his quill in the blood that fell from his severed ear.

And then of course there was Ian Fairweather who, whilst charting his raft across the Timor Sea, felt compelled to complete the Stanford Binet and the Wais (what the f**k are they anyway?) on scraps of paper so he could prove his brilliance to the indigenous tribes who met him at the completion of his voyage.


Oh - and don't forget Gauguin. He mailed countless requests for various intelligence measuring tests to France. On receiving them, he busied himself with the task of answering them in beween sex with the nubile girls, his court case (He was sentenced to 3 months prison) and work on the painting "Where do We Come from? What are we? WHere are we going?".

Of course, his genius is debated however, as he never completed the test. He died of siphyllus before he reached the final ten questions.



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17 Mar 2009, 12:16 am

In some ways what Millie posted makes a lot of sense. Should the topic actually be labeled "Has anybody here actually done anything significant with their AS Life".


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17 Mar 2009, 12:18 am

Which some of us will eventually do.



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17 Mar 2009, 12:27 am

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In some ways what Millie posted makes a lot of sense. Should the topic actually be labeled "Has anybody here actually done anything significant with their AS Life".


I'm working on it, much like LabPet.

One of my country's most respected female painters was with me a few weeks ago.
I consider her an informal mentor. she knows i have autism.

She is described in terms most painters dream of.
The "G" word is frequently thrown her way.
SHe is in her 70's. she lives in a shack in the bush and paints all the time.


Perhaps i should ask her to do a test when she comes to my studio next? :lmao:



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17 Mar 2009, 2:14 am

Good idea Millie,

After the warning you have posted about how some people have passed themselves off as "Artists," and on further study have been shown to be in fact, not our best examples of good citizens, there should be tests and standards enforced by the government to keep such things from ever happening again.

Some of these "Artists" have even shown people naked, and dared to call their pornographic filth art.

We need strict testing, mental health evaluation, IQ testing, home inspection, family history, and then a judging by a board of trained professionals, such as Psychologists, Social Workers, Religious Leaders, to prevent any subversive filth be shown to the public, under the claim of Art.

We owe it to the future generations to only show the true best of ourselves to the public to assure they will think of our time as being morally upright and Progressive.

All art should be government sponsored, board certified, and approved for content before being seen.

It should reflect the Noble Statesmanship of our leaders, the self sacrifice of government workers, Captains of Industry, and Teachers of Religious Truth.

All other forms of Media have voluntarily accepted these truths, and report what is in the best interest of the population to hear, clear and simple ideas about how we live in the best possible of all worlds.

The "Arts" must be made to see the wisdom of following God's plan for mankind, brought to us by Our Nobel Government, or they must be banned, nay, made an illegal act, subject to the most harsh of punishment.

IQ testing is a good start, then Loyality Oaths.



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17 Mar 2009, 2:16 am

IQ tests are just riddles.



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17 Mar 2009, 2:22 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

why yes, Inventor. let's tidy up this motley crew.
heaven forbid...we might have a mutiny on our hands.



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17 Mar 2009, 6:45 am

Callista wrote:
A genius would easily fall into the trap of narcissism: "I am smarter, therefore I am better, therefore I know what is best for you, therefore your opinion does not matter. I am doing this for your own good." That is dangerous. See above re. variable moral quality of geniuses.


That's what an average human being would think, you're playing up to the evil genius stereotype. Please don't stereotype smart people, when you hate being stereotyped, don't you think people who are genuinely very smart do also?

Truth be told, there are many genius's/highly intelligent and talented people who disabuse their talent and are very humble and kind people who understand that we live in an imperfect world and also the depth of their own imperfection. They recognize there are more important things in life then raw ability to do some socially useful task, given the shortness of human life and the frailty of mankind in general, in a world they did not choose to be born into.



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17 Mar 2009, 6:53 am

IQ tests are basically useless there is still many who receive low iq scores and make very important breakthoughs in all areas. It has no real quality of discerning maturity, immmaturity, intelligence, rationality, etc. I have taken iq tests 8 times out of them 3 were 140, 155, 160 respectively.



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17 Mar 2009, 7:06 am

I tried those online IQ tests and scored a 129 on one of them. I took around an hour or so to take it---then realized it was probably supposed to be timed---so I went over the time limit---invalid.

I went to my old school and requested my IQ score. It was 111---still higher than 84% of the population---but not in the genius nor academic gifted range. Accounting for error, the highest I think my IQ could be would be 119. But I took another IQ test online and scored around 110. So I think 111 is accurate. Sorry---no genius here.

However, I have musical savant qualities---but that's not genius.


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17 Mar 2009, 7:32 am

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Where'd you get that? I could've sworn that test would go up to the 180s... not accurately, but theoretically... Or am I just thinking of the childrens' version here? (Yeah, psych testing interests me. Current fascination: The MMPI.)


It could be handled differently, I think. Probably depends on fht professional.

I had a look at a couple of charts for how to calculate the IQ scores from the raw scores for different teen age ranges for WAIS and WISC-III and these particular tablets ended with a full score of 145.

Though subscores didn't have to be maxed out to already fall into the range of 145. So it could go higher, the charts just aren't designed for it because such high scores are so inaccurate and just say it's 145.


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