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Sean says he hasn't been to this girlfriend yet because he needs transportation arranged from the airport to her place, and cab fair would cost an extra 200+.
The whole PM exchange was done on mobile on his end.
Thank you for getting back about that.
So, if he doesn't raise that extra $200 he can't/won't go ... but he's holding onto the money already sent until he's sure ... ... ... right!
And the reason why he couldn't have told us this himself? ...
That's the real issue, I think. That's what I reacted to on Wednesday 1 Sept when he didn't update as expected. ... ... ... But am now thinking that if someone walks away from a conversation that you are having with them, one that you were invited to join specifically in order to help that person, there's no point carrying on talking, ... unless you change the subject, that is! :lol :lol :lol
I know what you mean. The incredibly laborious, complicated, if not impossible, process of deciding where in "the diagram" someone fits. And how "painful" it can be if the info is ambiguous. Am thinking that I need to focus on the really "close up", a bit like b9 said about seanmw's absence and "nothing else mattering".
Which is true in a way, seeing as the whole "sick girlfriend" issue/story only ever "existed" in seanmw's posts. It was a kind of product, which has dried up. It's gone. It still amazes me, shocks me actually, how much the act of paying for something/making people pay for something changes one's relationship with things, ( and people ).
What happens, cognitively, when I pay for something, when I give someone money? ... hmmm
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Am thinking that I need to focus on the really "close up", a bit like b9 said about seanmw's absence and "nothing else mattering" ... seeing as the whole "sick girlfriend" issue/story only ever "existed" in seanmw's posts. It was a kind of product, which has dried up, gone.
I think I'm maybe seeing what b9 really meant, ... finally. :lol ( maybe why he can earn more than $300 in two hours ).
It's almost as if it doesn't matter whether seanmw is scamming us or not, because all that actually matters here on WP, the online reality, is that he has stopped posting, he's not there anymore. He's "dropped" us. That's the only behaviour that "matters", the behaviour that we can be sure is "real". ... And it stinks! :lol
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well I wrote a huge ranting post and thought do I want to get banned, no, this tool is not worth the effort, hopefully he won't find more suckers to fund his junk food and Xbox habit
This thread should be locked, sorry to see so many good people hurt by this but the money is most likely long gone.
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I had intended not to post in here but I have some advice for Sean if he wants to see his GF.
Sell your xbox I sold mine on craigslist for a good amount of money and it was an older 2006 model. I also sold a guitar and a bass. Normally I don't just ask for random people's money. I just deal with the "hardships" and sell my things if need be. I know for you it's probably easier to ask for people's money, but at least by selling your luxuries you can show your GF how much she really means to you! She means more than xbox.
i did not say that i can earn that for any other reason than to show that i was not financially injured, and to show why i am not too fussed about getting it back. i did not say it to try and impress anyone.
i do not earn that 8 hours per day 5 days a week, that is for sure.
i am not rich and i am not trying to infer that i am.
it would be bad news for someone to lose $300 if they only had a small income, so i wanted to lessen the perception that he caused me any financial stress.
i am sorry i said it now.
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i was abrasive to you last night and i am sorry. i take back what i said about you using the thread to display yourself because i did not know that scams were an interest of yours outside this thread.
after thinking about it, i realize your investigation is beneficial for people who are not familiar with his actions and therefore likely to donate.
and as to him saying he can not afford to get there without another $200 (not asking for it but revealing that even $670 is not enough to achieve his goal), the g/f must live way out of town if there is no public transport to a place less than $200 cab fare distance from where she lives.
anyway i will only comment again in this thread after about a month, or when he comments again.
QFT That's a very good point. I knew that there was something about his last two posts on his Facebook page which "offended" me in some way other than the fact that he had clearly had internet access since he stopped posting here ( Sun 29 August ... and he never replied to Cockney Rebel's perfectly friendly enquiry about his gf on the 28 Aug ), and the time to post inconsequential non-essential remarks like that ( about playing on his x360box, eating junk food etc ), on FB but not to post updates here, and that his FB posts displayed a total absence of anxiety about any hypothetical gf, ... but you've put your finger on it there; he is obviously not as hard up as his earlier posts ( about having only $6/month left after paying his share of the rent, among other poverty-stricken laments ) suggested.
Yes, this is such a highly unlikely, read totally preposterous, possibility that it feels like contempt, which is probably why I am at last starting to feel angry, ( AS-style, that is many days after his failure to post first pointed to deliberate fraud or at the very least an "opportunistic" exploitation of people's concern ).
That's ok, thank you! I know I have a tendency to go on a bit about things which interest me, and also to refer, sometimes copiously, to my own experience in order to understand other people, and when it's something really confusing I do it even more.
I'm not sure. I said a page or two back that it shouldn't be, then dithered about it this morning after seeing TeaEarlGreyHot's "news", but am once again of the opinion that it should be left "live", ( and maybe even stickied, with a yet more strongly worded edit from a mod in the OP and/or title ), because it's an astonishingly powerful example of the sort of ambiguity which so many of us have trouble dealing with, and of the classically slow and/or hyper-sensitive ( emotional ) reaction and processing times of people on the spectrum, and of our difficulty deciphering social behaviour/communications, and of the painful struggle that it can be for many of us to work some things out, especially people; how we are quickly made anxious by anything which resembles mindgames, how we "trust" and then "fear", etc, and dither/have immense difficulty making our minds up about this sort of thing. And of how and why so many of us become systematically sceptical and untrusting too, because it is so exhausting trying to work out every single case on its merits.
I also still think that it may be very important that people should be able to carry on sharing, venting, exchanging ideas and their experiences of this, for a while yet anyway.
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He doesn't need to sell anything. He could just use the money he already has. Does anyone know really know how much a flight costs from Washington to Indiana? I do, I've checked. Under $300 and some are available under $200.
People, you need to just accept that you've been had. It may have been intentional or it may not. The truth is that you'll probably never know.
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I don't think it should be stickied, but it should certainly be remembered and be available as a more effective demonstration than scampering about trollishly shouting "u r all fools!" has proven.
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Thank you all for not going off on me for my rants. I can be a jerk to the max. Just extremely frustrated when I read stuff that is a knee jerk response to a very long complicated thread. I feel terrible when I can't keep my composure. I never get to just read anything, every tiny detail becomes another byte I keep in my brain. I am amazed b9 didn't know he was going to IN. I wish I could detach like that and then give money unconditionally. It is cool b9.
I think for those who are relaxed about stuff and have other stuff maybe you could just try to understand that some of us can't put down a mystery, even when we are honestly ready and open to any explanation. The fact that this is strange and inconsistent is beside the point, it is all about just wanting to reach resolution. The guy might still love his gf to the max but really I'm not sure I want him to sell his xbox. Selling his xbox to me is uber too much, lol. No one is worth that much (omg I know how awful that sounds, especially when I can be such a self righteous ass).
Sorry if I offended anyone and thank you for not going off on me. It did make me feel peaceful about it and like ouinon, ready to let it go.
People, you need to just accept that you've been had. It may have been intentional or it may not. The truth is that you'll probably never know.
I think we've also discussed how the airfares should be dropping in price now since the summer travel season is over. It should be getting easier for him.
I really have nothing more to add to this anymore as I'm tired of thinking about it. If something new comes up, then I'll comment again.
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