I DON'T WANT CHILDREN!! !

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Even a phrase such as "exactly the same" means different things to different people. Which criteria are you using to determine whether the dresses are exactly the same? Are they exactly the same color, make, model? Do they have the same amount of wear on them? Do they both have a slightly ripped seam on the left shoulder? The only way that it's indisputable is if you and your friend physically share the dress. Then it literally would be exactly the same dress.

Willard is saying that both are essentially eugenics and have the same intent and result. He's saying that the dresses are exactly the same, and you are saying, "No, they're not physically the same dress." Therefore, your opening statement, "I am shocked and offended that anyone would compare the decision not to reproduce to abortion" demonstrates that you missed this and overgeneralized Willard's statement, that you simply picked a poor choice of words to express your understanding, or that you willfully misrepresented the statement for dramatic effect.


Yet both have the same intent and produce the same result. No "bad" genes passed onto the next generation. The dresses aren't physically the same dress, and choosing not to have kids and abortion are not physically (or even emotionally) the same thing. But they are the same when the appropriate contextual criteria is applied.

I am one of the minority that do want children. I don't really like other peoples' children very much but I want to have my own anyway. I'm not really sure that I'd make the world's best mother, especially if I have NT kids, but I think I'd like to have a go. I've seen my own parents' attampt at parenting and there are things that I would do differently. All this is a fairly moot topic at the moment as I have no-one to have kids with having kicked my husband out 6 months ago!

I put 'Yes,' but in reality it's a 'No.'

The reason being is that it is my body that wants kids, but not me mentally.
That is, it's like I have no interest in babies, but the desire to become pregnant is so strong, that the distress is extremely severe if I don't attempt to give into it. It is such that I risk self-destruction (i.e suicide) because the emotional torment is so strong.

It's not that I wouldn't love or take care of a child if I had one (I would), it's just that it's like my body is forcing me to have one, whether I like it or not.

I take meds for this right now, but I have to have the doctor keep upping them, because they wear off after a couple of weeks.

Right now I am taking prenatal vitamins (though I am not pregnant yet) in preparation for an AI procedure that might take place a couple of months from now. I'm not happy about doing this, but I'd rather become pregnant then grieve my family and friends with a suicide.

I do want kids, and don't know anyone else who does.

I don't want kids for many reasons. First you have to get married, then you have to you know what, then go through the nine months, not to mention the birth, and then it only gets worse. Then they cry and they're annoying. I prefer to keep pets. Pets are fun to look after.

I do want children, absolutely do. I'm quite maternal and love babies, when I watch programs with child birth in them I'm overcome with emotion, I did want to be a midwife at some point but I'd be a crap midwife if I'm crying all the time

I'm ambivalent myself, but I know a girl who has the "children are crotch droppings I DON'T WANT THEM" attitude.

Her current BF is trying to changer her mind. He should be punched repeatedly until he gets a clue.

It's really awful that people have to have this attitude. I get the feeling it's mostly a psychological tool that is used to justify the position of not wanting kids because the societal pressure to have kids is so incredibly great. That is to say, if you can convince yourself that you hate something, you somehow justify your decision to not have kids to yourself.

What I've seen of these people is that they don't actually hate kids; they hate irresponsible parenting. But they'll see a situation in public that makes them shake their heads and say, "See? Children are all crotch droppings..." And further bolster their hatred.

The strange part is she thinks older children are fine...it's kids up to age 4 that she actually considers to be physically ugly. She is a bit of an elitist though.

Anyone that doesnt want kids, should simply not have kids, and should be left alone. No one external to it has an input to that descison

I don't want kids either. There's a boy at school who acts like it's really stupid that I feel this way. (He's an absolutely horrible human being on a number of levels, I literally feel sorry for any kids he might have in the future.)

I want to travel the world and do what I want in life, and personally I don't want to waste 18 years of my life. I'm not judging anyone who doesn't see it as a waste of time, but I do, and I'd rather people would just accept that instead of pressuring me to have children.

And there's another thing: I'm only fourteen! Isn't having kids exactly what I'm supposed to be trying NOT to do at this age?? That's why the schools have to take time to show us all how to put a condom onto a cucumber or whatever. My point being, can they wait a few years before they start pressuring me to reproduce? I'll have the exact same answers then, but at least it would be slightly more relevant and appropriate.

Well, the thing is, most people will tell you that at 14, it's probably unlikely that you'll hold the same opinions later on in life as you do now.

However......there's a) Plenty of time for that to change if it ever does and b) no reason for anyone to fret about a decision in either direction at this age.

In the meantime, you probably shouldn't make a loud deal about not wanting kids, at least not yet. People can't b***h at you about it if they don't know that about you.

I think it would be selfish to bring a new life into this world when there are already so many children who have no family.

I suspect a lot of people only have kids because they want slave labor, anyway.
I don't have a very high opinion of parenthood. Can you tell?

I suspect you are fairly young?

I totally agree in not bringing any more people to this world, but I do want a family, my solution? adoption, there are too many kids already here.

The note is up to 126 comments, this woman, Beth has been agrueing with me for like DAYS now!! !

The lady doesn't know how to give up!! ! She keeps saying I'm sick and I put a picture of my little cousin and me up and she got all mad and said I should stay 50 feet away from anybody younger than 20 years old. Also threatening to have my Facebook shut down, I'm probably just going to ignore her for now, but it's entertainment for my friends.