01 Apr 2011, 2:52 am
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
daspie wrote:
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
daspie wrote:
The logic behind it is very simple. We don't get intonation. A harsh tone is an insult. We do not get people's intention, some one can make us get their job done therefore that is our insult. Some one can call us very bad things, see my signatures. For e.g. If someone uses this word "push" when it was not necessary(out of context) and in a jovial tone then it means a very bad thing. "push" sound like "puss" and latter sounds like "pus(s)y". And that means a whore, and if we are called a whore then that means that we were in a whore just as someone says "home" to mean that he/she is/was in home. I realized these things at the age of 26 and 1/2.
Some one can push us here and there, poke us, pull us a bit and we do not mind because we don't realize the mind, which is disrespecting, behind that action. Therefore it is important for males to be physically strong,. I think women should also be big and not petit!
Some one can push us here and there, poke us, pull us a bit and we do not mind because we don't realize the mind, which is disrespecting, behind that action. Therefore it is important for males to be physically strong,. I think women should also be big and not petit!
*raises eyebrow*
I believe you may be over thinking things a bit.
It will, no one except one believed me who himself showed some understanding of those rules. His name is nostromous and this is that link.
I've studied Nostradamus and think while he had some wisdom most of his followers like to twist everything he said to fit their perceptions.
I wouldn't be surprised if he has a church in his name in the next thousand years. If we survive that long, that is.
The church would be in my name
. What do you mean by "most of his followers............", no one except I agreed with him. And what about the fact that his observations are explained by my "over stretched" explanations(as NTs and aspies called it so).
01 Apr 2011, 2:53 am
Babs01 wrote:
daspie wrote:
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
daspie wrote:
The logic behind it is very simple. We don't get intonation. A harsh tone is an insult. We do not get people's intention, some one can make us get their job done therefore that is our insult. Some one can call us very bad things, see my signatures. For e.g. If someone uses this word "push" when it was not necessary(out of context) and in a jovial tone then it means a very bad thing. "push" sound like "puss" and latter sounds like "pus(s)y". And that means a whore, and if we are called a whore then that means that we were in a whore just as someone says "home" to mean that he/she is/was in home. I realized these things at the age of 26 and 1/2.
Some one can push us here and there, poke us, pull us a bit and we do not mind because we don't realize the mind, which is disrespecting, behind that action. Therefore it is important for males to be physically strong,. I think women should also be big and not petit!
Some one can push us here and there, poke us, pull us a bit and we do not mind because we don't realize the mind, which is disrespecting, behind that action. Therefore it is important for males to be physically strong,. I think women should also be big and not petit!
*raises eyebrow*
I believe you may be over thinking things a bit.
It will, no one except one believed me who himself showed some understanding of those rules. His name is nostromous and this is that link.
Why do you grovel in their lack of intellect. Why not walk in your own light and move on from the collective circle with whom many come and others leave only once they remember that life is more then what they 'see'.
Please explain its meaning
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01 Apr 2011, 5:12 am
daspie wrote:
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
daspie wrote:
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
daspie wrote:
The logic behind it is very simple. We don't get intonation. A harsh tone is an insult. We do not get people's intention, some one can make us get their job done therefore that is our insult. Some one can call us very bad things, see my signatures. For e.g. If someone uses this word "push" when it was not necessary(out of context) and in a jovial tone then it means a very bad thing. "push" sound like "puss" and latter sounds like "pus(s)y". And that means a whore, and if we are called a whore then that means that we were in a whore just as someone says "home" to mean that he/she is/was in home. I realized these things at the age of 26 and 1/2.
Some one can push us here and there, poke us, pull us a bit and we do not mind because we don't realize the mind, which is disrespecting, behind that action. Therefore it is important for males to be physically strong,. I think women should also be big and not petit!
Some one can push us here and there, poke us, pull us a bit and we do not mind because we don't realize the mind, which is disrespecting, behind that action. Therefore it is important for males to be physically strong,. I think women should also be big and not petit!
*raises eyebrow*
I believe you may be over thinking things a bit.
It will, no one except one believed me who himself showed some understanding of those rules. His name is nostromous and this is that link.
I've studied Nostradamus and think while he had some wisdom most of his followers like to twist everything he said to fit their perceptions.
I wouldn't be surprised if he has a church in his name in the next thousand years. If we survive that long, that is.
The church would be in my name
. What do you mean by "most of his followers............", no one except I agreed with him. And what about the fact that his observations are explained by my "over stretched" explanations(as NTs and aspies called it so).You two are getting confused. TeaEarlGreyHot misread Nostromos as "Nostradamus". Incidently, Nostradamus was not quite a full shilling.
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01 Apr 2011, 6:09 am
daspie wrote:
Babs01 wrote:
daspie wrote:
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
daspie wrote:
The logic behind it is very simple. We don't get intonation. A harsh tone is an insult. We do not get people's intention, some one can make us get their job done therefore that is our insult. Some one can call us very bad things, see my signatures. For e.g. If someone uses this word "push" when it was not necessary(out of context) and in a jovial tone then it means a very bad thing. "push" sound like "puss" and latter sounds like "pus(s)y". And that means a whore, and if we are called a whore then that means that we were in a whore just as someone says "home" to mean that he/she is/was in home. I realized these things at the age of 26 and 1/2.
Some one can push us here and there, poke us, pull us a bit and we do not mind because we don't realize the mind, which is disrespecting, behind that action. Therefore it is important for males to be physically strong,. I think women should also be big and not petit!
Some one can push us here and there, poke us, pull us a bit and we do not mind because we don't realize the mind, which is disrespecting, behind that action. Therefore it is important for males to be physically strong,. I think women should also be big and not petit!
*raises eyebrow*
I believe you may be over thinking things a bit.
It will, no one except one believed me who himself showed some understanding of those rules. His name is nostromous and this is that link.
Why do you grovel in their lack of intellect. Why not walk in your own light and move on from the collective circle with whom many come and others leave only once they remember that life is more then what they 'see'.
Please explain its meaning
.From what I can surmise, you appear to be quite intelligent. Using your intellect on minds so little as to try to offend you seems a bit beneath your potential. Kind of like a distraction from what you could really be accomplishing here on our wonderful planet. Being open to seeing all the kindness around you can be habit forming.
Some one once told me that if you put a bunch of lobsters in a shallow pan that none would leave. The moment one would try, the ones behind him would grab his tail and prevent him from going.
Sometimes the people, who are less then kind, are like lobsters. When you decide to move on from around them, they get mad and try to pull you back into their odd sense of life. Moving out of this circle of belief is tough, but can be done.
01 Apr 2011, 6:55 am
Babs01 wrote:
From what I can surmise, you appear to be quite intelligent. Using your intellect on minds so little as to try to offend you seems a bit beneath your potential. Kind of like a distraction from what you could really be accomplishing here on our wonderful planet. Being open to seeing all the kindness around you can be habit forming.
Thanks, you mean that I should not think in such terms. People who are forgiving might do well, but still they are not respected and taken advantage of if people get to know that they(aspies) have a social mind of a newborn, but for us who are egotistic and revengeful one word can make a lot of difference as it is for NTs. Yes, I am intelligent
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Some one once told me that if you put a bunch of lobsters in a shallow pan that none would leave. The moment one would try, the ones behind him would grab his tail and prevent him from going.
Sometimes the people, who are less then kind, are like lobsters. When you decide to move on from around them, they get mad and try to pull you back into their odd sense of life. Moving out of this circle of belief is tough, but can be done.
Sometimes the people, who are less then kind, are like lobsters. When you decide to move on from around them, they get mad and try to pull you back into their odd sense of life. Moving out of this circle of belief is tough, but can be done.
Nemorosa has been the biggest lobster
. Thanks for the analogy.
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01 Apr 2011, 9:16 am
daspie wrote:
Babs01 wrote:
From what I can surmise, you appear to be quite intelligent. Using your intellect on minds so little as to try to offend you seems a bit beneath your potential. Kind of like a distraction from what you could really be accomplishing here on our wonderful planet. Being open to seeing all the kindness around you can be habit forming.
Thanks, you mean that I should not think in such terms. People who are forgiving might do well, but still they are not respected and taken advantage of if people get to know that they(aspies) have a social mind of a newborn, but for us who are egotistic and revengeful one word can make a lot of difference as it is for NTs. Yes, I am intelligent
.As it is with all groups ie NTs, Aspie, Caucasion, Native American, etc. it takes all kinds. I don't believe any group holds only one way of thinking. Therefore just because a person is an NT, it doesn't mean that the person comprehends social at a peaceful level. The best way to teach, I have found, is through example and words of logic. Emotions can be like a hard battle banging in our heads, but like a child, should never be allowed to make the final word/choice.
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Some one once told me that if you put a bunch of lobsters in a shallow pan that none would leave. The moment one would try, the ones behind him would grab his tail and prevent him from going.
Sometimes the people, who are less then kind, are like lobsters. When you decide to move on from around them, they get mad and try to pull you back into their odd sense of life. Moving out of this circle of belief is tough, but can be done.
Sometimes the people, who are less then kind, are like lobsters. When you decide to move on from around them, they get mad and try to pull you back into their odd sense of life. Moving out of this circle of belief is tough, but can be done.
Nemorosa has been the biggest lobster
. Thanks for the analogy.I am unfamiliar with the word nemorosa?
01 Apr 2011, 9:20 am
I believe what she's trying to say is that you're wasting too much energy on people who are insulting to you, because they are beneath you. They aren't worth your time or energy. Correct me if I'm wrong, Babs.
01 Apr 2011, 9:34 am
Zen wrote:
I believe what she's trying to say is that you're wasting too much energy on people who are insulting to you, because they are beneath you. They aren't worth your time or energy. Correct me if I'm wrong, Babs.
Why does anyone think that they are beneath us? They insult us and they make us beneath everyone. As I have said if you are nice and gentle kind of aspie then forgiving may work for you but if you are like me who has anti social personality disorder, as many if not all egotistic NTs, including bullies, have, then revenge is the only option. As aspie have written else where on this site that people(NTs) mess up with them because of having autistic manners, in other words we piss people off due to our behaviors, therefore if we do not stand up for our right to respect then NTs will continue to trample over us by making fun of us or by exploiting us. Taking revenge at least in the latter case is the only option. If revenge is taken at the extreme level, lets say by suing, such that it comes in media then it will deter others. Someone has to set an example.
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01 Apr 2011, 9:36 am
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01 Apr 2011, 9:36 am
Zen wrote:
I believe what she's trying to say is that you're wasting too much energy on people who are insulting to you, because they are beneath you. They aren't worth your time or energy. Correct me if I'm wrong, Babs.
Ok you're good. Yes that's what I'm trying to say. I wish sometimes I could just get to the point. I'd probably have to write less.
01 Apr 2011, 9:40 am
Babs01 wrote:
Zen wrote:
I believe what she's trying to say is that you're wasting too much energy on people who are insulting to you, because they are beneath you. They aren't worth your time or energy. Correct me if I'm wrong, Babs.
Ok you're good. Yes that's what I'm trying to say. I wish sometimes I could just get to the point. I'd probably have to write less.
Ah, it's just that different people have different ways of saying the same thing. You are just fine.
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01 Apr 2011, 9:59 am
daspie wrote:
Zen wrote:
I believe what she's trying to say is that you're wasting too much energy on people who are insulting to you, because they are beneath you. They aren't worth your time or energy. Correct me if I'm wrong, Babs.
Why does anyone think that they are beneath us? They insult us and they make us beneath everyone. As I have said if you are nice and gentle kind of aspie then forgiving may work for you but if you are like me who has anti social personality disorder, as many if not all egotistic NTs, including bullies, have, then it is revenge is the only option. As people have written else where that people mess up with them because of having autistic manners, in other words we piss people off due to our behaviors, therefore if we do not stand up for our right to respect then NTs will continue to trample over us by making fun of us or by exploiting us. Taking revenge at least in the latter case is the only option. If revenge is taken at the extreme level, lets say by suing, such that it comes in media then it will deter others. Someone has to set an example.
Perhaps by setting the bar higher, revenge could, if done with good intentions of seeing a behavior stopped be changed to teaching. I've just never seen that result. If you take away the need for someone who treats you badly to be angry with you, then you give them an opportunity, an opening to change. If we choose not to be the teacher then a higher intelligence may actually reach the person. One changes only for a change that comes from within. That's why alcoholics don't get help until 'they' see the problem.
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I give you an example of my 15 year old boy. He's an aspie. What is dished out to him he multiplies it by 10 and gives it back. We have been working on this for awhile, since he was 2. He is much better. But I have tried many ways to discipline him. First, the old fashion way~eye for an eye~he got a spanking (which must never be done in anger). That made him worse. Then isolation~he just destroyed the room he was in. Then, finally, love. If he was mean, I would ground him to holding my hand. At first this made him more furious. But I just wouldn't let go no matter what he did, perhaps my autism helped with my stubbornness, I'm a queen at that
. We would do everything together~walks, laundry, vacuuming etc. This was the only thing that would work. After he calmed down, he was able to be the person who was hiding inside. He was actually looking for someone to confirm that he was lovable and valuable. Unfortunately not all of us have a person around us who'll go to such great lengths to make this clear in a very gentle loving and patient way. It's too bad. All the same, I have never met an angry person that didn't have a softer side. And I'm not searching for one either. People, in general, I have found react differently to the emotion of fear and loneliness. I only suggest to be careful not to become that of which you dislike.
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01 Apr 2011, 10:04 am
Babs01 wrote:
daspie wrote:
Zen wrote:
I believe what she's trying to say is that you're wasting too much energy on people who are insulting to you, because they are beneath you. They aren't worth your time or energy. Correct me if I'm wrong, Babs.
Why does anyone think that they are beneath us? They insult us and they make us beneath everyone. As I have said if you are nice and gentle kind of aspie then forgiving may work for you but if you are like me who has anti social personality disorder, as many if not all egotistic NTs, including bullies, have, then it is revenge is the only option. As people have written else where that people mess up with them because of having autistic manners, in other words we piss people off due to our behaviors, therefore if we do not stand up for our right to respect then NTs will continue to trample over us by making fun of us or by exploiting us. Taking revenge at least in the latter case is the only option. If revenge is taken at the extreme level, lets say by suing, such that it comes in media then it will deter others. Someone has to set an example.
Perhaps by setting the bar higher, revenge could, if done with good intentions of seeing a behavior stopped be changed to teaching. I've just never seen that result. If you take away the need for someone who treats you badly to be angry with you, then you give them an opportunity, an opening to change. If we choose not to be the teacher then a higher intelligence may actually reach the person. One changes only for a change that comes from within. That's why alcoholics don't get help until 'they' see the problem.
or
I give you an example of my 15 year old boy. He's an aspie. What is dished out to him he multiplies it by 10 and gives it back. We have been working on this for awhile, since he was 2. He is much better. But I have tried many ways to discipline him. First, the old fashion way~eye for an eye~he got a spanking (which must never be done in anger). That made him worse. Then isolation~he just destroyed the room he was in. Then, finally, love. If he was mean, I would ground him to holding my hand. At first this made him more furious. But I just wouldn't let go no matter what he did, perhaps my autism helped with my stubbornness, I'm a queen at that
. We would do everything together~walks, laundry, vacuuming etc. This was the only thing that would work. After he calmed down, he was able to be the person who was hiding inside. He was actually looking for someone to confirm that he was lovable and valuable. Unfortunately not all of us have a person around us who'll go to such great lengths to make this clear in a very gentle loving and patient way. It's too bad. All the same, I have never met an angry person that didn't have a softer side. And I'm not searching for one either. People, in general, I have found react differently to the emotion of fear and loneliness. I only suggest to be careful not to become that of which you dislike.Oh I forgot to mention...anyone who comes across looking like they think 'you're beneath them', only do this because they feel inferior to you. They are often calmed when they find out you think of them as equals.
01 Apr 2011, 10:20 am
01 Apr 2011, 10:37 am
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01 Apr 2011, 10:40 am
