Aspies/auties and f***ed up beliefs

Post Reply New Topic

can i make giving me bad grades illegal?

People have their own moral codes. Laws against incest are on the books for the very basic reason that inbreeding is a genetic timebomb. If third cousins twice removed wanna get together - more power to them. If, adult father and daughter decide to have at it - while it may personally disgust me- its their bodies, their morals, their life. If they know and accept the risks, who are we to tell them no? I believe any consenting adult should be able to decided what they do and do not do with their own body. I do not discriminate against hererosexuals nor homosexuals and it would be hypocritical of me to deny consenting adults of their choice even if I disagree.

If no one is getting hurt, it's not my business.

pretty sure they were being sarcastic

Seems fair to me. In fact, anything that will hurt feelings should be illegal.

Dude... need big bold signs that say 'SARCASM" if you want me to catch that! Without an emoticon - I'm clueless.

<--- has been sarcastic in every reply to this thread

i could tell because they were making an absurd statement (that we should pass laws based on the feelings of one person) and because of the exclamation points...

I think autistic people definitely have different beliefs than the norm. For example most in society believe sex should be between consenting adults only. However the alternative moral ethic is that sexual relations require parental consent regardless of the age. I found myself asking my girlfreinds father for his daughters hand in marriage even though his daughter was 26 years old. I guess maybe I am just old fashioned but when cultures went by parental consent there was no such thing as the concept of consenting adults.

that "alternative ethic" also involves the view that women are property... are you sure you want to be saying that? do you honestly view women as property to be owned, and not fully human?

So you're okay with parents pimping out their children?

In Nevada were prostitution is legal minors who are 16 or 17 must have the permission of one parent before they can get married, Minors under 16 must also have a court order. I do not think there has been a push to legalize child prostitution in Nevada.

i like how that had absolutely nothing to do with anything anyone said...

It would be pointless even if it did acknowledge the question. If it were me, I'd have pointed out the straw man in the question. If I understood Tea's response correctly, androbot's view went from being about being gentlemanly and polite to being about selling children as sex slaves and arranged marriage.

My father-in-law was horrified when I proposed to his daughter and proceeded with plans to get married. I never had to worry about getting his approval. He just wanted some acknowledgement that what he wanted for his daughter mattered. As soon as I got a minute alone with the guy, I DID ask permission to marry Mandi, and that one moment completely changed our relationship for the better.

It's polite. It shows you care that you have the support of your in-laws. It's a long-lost cultural value. And when my daughter turns 30 and I finally let her out of the house, I'll be honored when she brings some poor unworthy dog of a man home and he actually ASKS me for my blessing. Beyond that point, mi casa es su casa.

That is, of course, IF he survives a night out with me and her brother!! !

so, you believe that women shouldn't have a choice as to who they marry, and if has to be the father's decision? because, like i said, that's a relic from a time when women were seen as property. if my dad tells me i can't marry who i want, my response will be f**k that, i'm marrying him or her anyway!

That is what I was responding to. It is not a strawman argument.

Well, you CAN'T marry who you want, anyway. That's a myth of contemporary society. You can only marry someone with whom marriage is mutually agreed upon. We just go out there and hope that whoever we want to marry happens to want to marry us, too. A lot of times, though we don't like to admit it, the person we end up marrying is not the person we wanted. It's a good thing feelings can change over time, right?

It might be a relic. But so what if it is? Parents tend to develop a deep emotional attachment to their children. We dads tend to hold our daughters in high regard. We want to protect our children, sons and daughters alike. We do not wish for bad things to happen to them. So if you want my daughter, and you're going to force me to give her away, at least have the decency to be polite about it. I'll let you be my adopted son--we can go fishing, hunting, also do things that DON'T involve sharp objects and guns (because I'm a nice guy, and I'd really hate for you to have an "accident"), maybe even let you jam with my band one night. If I think of my children over time as my "possessions," it's because I've vested more in them over a longer period of time than anyone they might just "fall in love with." If knew my daughter was stuck with some deadbeat, meth-mouth, low-life, I'd drop whatever it was I was doing and snatch her out there, kicking and screaming if I had to, and get whatever help I needed to make sure he couldn't ever get to her again. It's nothing to do with being a "possession." It's about taking care of each other and looking out for what's best.

Funny thing, too--I met my wife actually by "sticking my nose where it didn't belong." We'd both been in bad situations. I was being a particularly bad boy running after women who were as dissatisfied in their relationships as I was with my life in general. Mandi's situation was particularly bad. I didn't set out to split her and her bf up, at least not at first. We just both needed a break. I got to see firsthand how bad things were and how abusive he could be. He made it personal, I beat him at his own game and ended up with the girl. Her parents saw it before I did, of course, but no one DARED to split them up because she was too busy being "in love" and wouldn't listen to anyone anyway. They thought I was the best thing since bottled beer. So I reject the idea that "it's a free country, do what you want" if what you want causes you pain and misery. You can't win every time, but friends don't let things like that happen to each other. I may not "own" my wife or my daughter, but I have no problem putting my life on the line for them--whatever it takes as long for as I live to see that they are safe.