The new AS Test (Among the best I've seen)

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16 May 2011, 11:51 am

71/72

I dont like ambiguous questions that can be taken a number of ways and understand these tests have to have such questions... I take it at face value, just a wee quiz no different to what is your kissing style or what kind of fork are you...

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16 May 2011, 1:16 pm

Why is it taboo for none spectrum people to score high too?

Is this a example of a cue I picked up on? I have figured out it must be taboo for none autistics to get a high score on aspie quizzes because they don't want to admit it.

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16 May 2011, 1:37 pm

I like that test. I have most of these issues. To be more scientifically valid, it needs some control questions that a person with AS would probably answer "no" to.

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16 May 2011, 1:39 pm

I took the new test and scored 20/72 on it.

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16 May 2011, 1:45 pm

I've been diagnosed with aspergers and scored 15. Its seems for some questions answering "never" instead of "sometimes" is an indication of aspergers. I guess everyone can struggle with these things. I liked the test.

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16 May 2011, 2:32 pm

MathGirl wrote:

It is really difficult to pay attention “in the real world” where there are thousands of other stimuli getting your attention at the same time, plus it takes time to adjust to any new environment I find myself in. And I am not a hermit – I am an extremely social person in real life. But some Aspies are hermits by choice and such tests should be adjusted to include them as well. The reason why I had no trouble with the “social and cultural norms” question is because I have directly asked NTs why they do this and that, which made me realize how differently I perceive the world. However, someone who is a hermit would probably not have an opportunity to do something like this. The only “clue” I could observe people do when I talked about my interest that *may* have indicated that they’re bored is try to switch the topic. Sometimes they do the same thing in other circumstances, though, such as when I actually try to talk about what someone else wants to talk about, so it’s not very definitive that way. Other than that, I haven’t been able to observe anything. In my opinion, the test should be adjusted so that people who do not spend a lot of time out in the world could also take it effectively. This test is actually better as there are only a few questions that rely on such information, so I see it as easily fixable.

When my suspected HFA friend tried to fill out the AQ test with my help, we kept bringing up similar doubts. The very reason why I designate him a HFA (besides language learning delay).

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16 May 2011, 3:49 pm

I got 66/72. I didn't have any of the synaesthesia questions or the inability to recognize people out of a crowd.

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16 May 2011, 3:54 pm

MathGirl wrote:

It is if you have problems processing sensory information.

I am wondering if the core of my social problems came from my inability to pay attention to the cues, due to being distracted by other sensory information battling for supremacy in my brain.

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16 May 2011, 3:56 pm

MathGirl wrote:

... But some Aspies are hermits by choice and such tests should be adjusted to include them as well. ...

What I've seen on a lot of these quizzes presupposes a lot of not only social interaction, but meaningful social interaction where other people actually critique the person taking the quiz in a thoughtful and non-aggressive way. I'm not sure how realistic that is. I can understand that younger people are likely in a school environment and have forced social contact with other people, but even then I'm not sure it would be meaningful contact on a level that allows others to freely critique them. (I mean, you normally don't tell fat people they're fat nor ugly people they're ugly, unless you're a total jerk, so would the average kid go up to another student and say "I don't think you understand social norms like the rest of us"?)

I'm also not sure about the theory-of-mind capabilities of quiz takers to evaluate things like "others see me as..." - it's like the people who do these tests don't "field test" them on actual autistic people to see if they grok the items.

I don't know what the perfect quiz would be - probably impossible to make one.

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16 May 2011, 4:20 pm

I wonder how people score high on the test if they aren't aware of what people think of them and all? I would think they would answer never if they are never told it. I would think they may score low on it because of lack of self awareness. I think that is why doctors prefer to hear from family and friends or teachers when they give out testing for autism/AS for more accurate answers. And everyone has things sometimes and has difficulty sometimes so I can imagine an NT would answer sometimes. If you aren't out in the real world much nor around people much nor socialize much, you answers may be "never" to questions because how can those issues occur if you aren't talking to people? And also if no one ever makes negative comments to you about you nor if anyone ever tells you what others say about you.

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16 May 2011, 7:36 pm

I took it once but my browser crashed when I got my results (I think it was 69/72) so I retook it and got 43/72.

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16 May 2011, 10:52 pm

So, here's the threads where I was trying to get NTs to take the test. Actually, many of these forums probably do have a few AS members, so it's not going to be ALL NT, but there should be a large number of NTs.

http://www.socialanxietysupport.com/for ... 1059006858
http://www.dutchforce.com/~eforum/index ... opic=37309
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewto ... =1&t=28070

It seems many of the users are getting a score in the range of 15-30, though there's a few people in the 30-40 range who claim they aren't autistic, while there's a few people in the >40 range that have been diagnosed with AS. So, it seems like this test might have good predictivity for high scores. For scores in the middle, it seems somewhat uncertain since a previous user in this thread with AS scored 15. Hmmm... maybe my score of 29 isn't as good at telling me I'm neurotypical like I was hoping. Drats! lol

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16 May 2011, 10:54 pm

Double post.

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16 May 2011, 11:08 pm

EvilZak wrote:

* With the scoring, the test is designed to give someone who meets all three criteria a very high score, and someone who does not meet any of the criteria a very low score, which is why so many people on the spectrum tend to get high 60s or 70s as a result. This is to make sure that someone qualifying as an NT by these criteria can't get a higher score on points than someone qualifying as AS.Also, the reason many people seem to get 72/72 is that the score is based on how many criteria are met rather than on the number of AS favouring answers to questions - which means that a full score can be reached without getting high points on every single question. Even so, I've been pretty surprised about the number of 72s.....

Zak....One small suggestion...try and develop a more even spread of weighted averages across more indicators so you are not skewing the scores on specific traits. Otherwise you are weighting the Likert scores on specific traits > others.
That may explain the cluster of 72s....

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16 May 2011, 11:14 pm

I used to write composite performance measures in a previous life for a government organisation for KPIs. I think Autism scales would be greatly improved if they use metrics based composite measures involving multiple test scores across a range of Autism specific traits, rather than a collection of Likert scores linked to specific questions. The latter contains a big level of bias even though it's quicker (which is why likert scores are so popular over metrics).

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17 May 2011, 2:55 am

72/72

this forum is running very slow, so havent been able to read all the posts of how people do rate the test.

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