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13 Jan 2012, 2:40 pm

these 2 are total nut jobs, you be the judge whos scaring who

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13 Jan 2012, 2:52 pm

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I think smoking the bad stuff and reacting badly to it has scared me off the good stuff people talk about.


One time I smoked pot and it made me feel weird and then I was violently ill for days.

I'm not against others smoking it and I know it has some medicinal purpose but I'll never do it again.



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13 Jan 2012, 2:57 pm

pezar wrote:
pensieve wrote:
I think smoking the bad stuff and reacting badly to it has scared me off the good stuff people talk about.
I shouldn't even drink alcohol because of my epilepsy. Maybe I just messed my brain up on its own and can't take anything any more.

I do know people that smoke weed and whatever drugs they can get their hands on. I should give them an EEG of my brain and say 'this is your future.'

Sorry, don't mean to be a downer, just sucks that I won't get to experience it.


My psychiatrist used to have a poster of brain scans of people who did hard drugs while still teens, and it was eye opening. Some drugs literally burn holes completely through your brain. People get spongy holes in their brain, and it tends to make them crazy, especially if the holes are in the front temporal lobes. Front temporal lobe damage is associated with being totally uninhibited, having religious experiences/a connection to "god", losing the ability to judge whether a situation is bad or good.

Britney Spears likely has front temporal lobe damage as the result of doing hard drugs from the age of 14. She actually has to take pharmaceutical drugs to lessen the permanent damage of street drugs. Talk about hell. I know that some of the really hard core psychedelic drug users in the 60s ended up with fried brains due to the drugs, and had to be institutionalized, or they wandered off into the forest on a "permanent trip" and were never heard from again. I know when I was a teen kids would huff Scotchgard (chemical used to waterproof cloth) and some took one huff and just died, felled by a stroke. Today kids drink cough syrup to get high.


This thread is specific to cannabis, which is considered neuroprotective, and is why doctors now prescribe cannabis for neurological conditions.

Recently I tried some Black Jack strain, a newly breed sour variety, and noticed an elevation in mood. Afterwards I went online to check its description and reviews and noticed it recommended for depression!

Some of what is going on in cannabis breeding is nothing short of cutting edge. In whatever field of farming or science, beneficial advances are constantly happening, and cannabis breeding advances are occurring more than 20fold in comparison to say current dog breeding advances

Doctors now prescribe cannabis, it is neuro protective and treats and prevents Alzheimer's.



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13 Jan 2012, 6:31 pm

Cannabis is one of the only things I've found that allows me to feel empathy. It takes care of so many of my AS symptoms. The best part is all I need is a tiny amount, and I have greatly reduced symptoms for about 20 hours.



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13 Jan 2012, 6:46 pm

Ok, so I really don't like making long posts to explain a single point but in this case I have a lot to say. THC is not a drug in the same respect as more potent stimuli such as cocaine or heroin, it is a neurotransmitter. This means it produces its calming euphoric effect by stimulating receptors in the brain that were there already.

You hear stories of people who have "over dosed" on cannabis. This is a common misconception as you cannot truly OD on a neuroreceptor. The people they show you started smoking marijuana at a young age and in large quantities. THC works by stimulating the release of dopamine (why it's sometimes called dope) if the gland that produces dopamine is overstimulated before it can fully develop (as it is not fully formed in teenage brains) it can decrease its capacity to function later on. Hence the paranoia/depression; It causes anxiety!

The government is hesitant to legalise the drug because, and mainly, they are afraid it will lead people to stronger narcotics as a "gateway drug". This is the most ridiculous thing I have probably ever heard and, in my answer, I think it is appropriate to quote Terry pratchetts Lord Vettinari "if you do not want something illegal then you must legalise it" basically, if the government doesn't want people being led to stronger drugs by dealers remove them from the equation and make the dealers employed officials who abide to rules and regulations.

so why is it still illegal? This just sounds like governments being ridiculously touchy over what is, ultimately, a vice not even on par with alcohol or tobacco.



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13 Jan 2012, 6:49 pm

lilbuddah wrote:
Ok, so I really don't like making long posts to explain a single point but in this case I have a lot to say. THC is not a drug in the same respect as more potent stimuli such as cocaine or heroin, it is a neurotransmitter. This means it produces its calming euphoric effect by stimulating receptors in the brain that were there already.

You hear stories of people who have "over dosed" on cannabis. This is a common misconception as you cannot truly OD on a neuroreceptor. The people they show you started smoking marijuana at a young age and in large quantities. THC works by stimulating the release of dopamine (why it's sometimes called dope) if the gland that produces dopamine is overstimulated before it can fully develop (as it is not fully formed in teenage brains) it can decrease its capacity to function later on. Hence the paranoia/depression; It causes anxiety!

The government is hesitant to legalise the drug because, and mainly, they are afraid it will lead people to stronger narcotics as a "gateway drug". This is the most ridiculous thing I have probably ever heard and, in my answer, I think it is appropriate to quote Terry pratchetts Lord Vettinari "if you do not want something illegal then you must legalise it" basically, if the government doesn't want people being led to stronger drugs by dealers remove them from the equation and make the dealers employed officials who abide to rules and regulations.

so why is it still illegal? This just sounds like governments being ridiculously touchy over what is, ultimately, a vice not even on par with alcohol or tobacco.


I agree with you about your second point...however THC is certainly a drug as are the other active cannabanoids.


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13 Jan 2012, 6:57 pm

I never said it wasn't a drug, it's not a drug like heroin because heroin directly alters brain chemistry(ever seen a heroin vegetable, that's what happens if you somehow survive an OD, not pretty) It is most definitely a drug because it produces an effect on the body. Caffeine is a drug, so is paracetamol etc. It's like cannabis is a lockpick and heroin is a crowbar.



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13 Jan 2012, 7:09 pm

lilbuddah wrote:
I never said it wasn't a drug, it's not a drug like heroin because heroin directly alters brain chemistry(ever seen a heroin vegetable, that's what happens if you somehow survive an OD, not pretty) It is most definitely a drug because it produces an effect on the body. Caffeine is a drug, so is paracetamol etc. It's like cannabis is a lockpick and heroin is a crowbar.


Oh ok, that makes more sense....herion is certainly quite a bit different and far more dangerous than cannabis.


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