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15 Jan 2012, 2:20 pm

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Have you ever thought that maybe it's more likely a distorted perception of yours rather than you actually being so frequently accosted by "crazy" people. I mean you say you "sense" that they are crazy and you also said you weed them out and avoid them, yet you say their psychiatrists "label" them for a reason.

First, I think it's important to recognize that psychiatrists diagnose patients with specific mental illnesses in order to treat them properly and help them become more "normal" as it were.

Second, I must ask if you at least occasionally have a psych evaluation to determine the state of your mental health? Being that you are genetically predisposed to mental illness it might be a good idea. Mental illness is often unrecognizable to the sufferer, they often think everyone else is the problem and they are perfectly sane and normal. I do think a psychiatrist would consider your belief that you have the ability to "sense" when someone is mentally ill and you feel like they are out to get you for some reason. It's above human abilities to "sense" mental illness just by looking at someone or speaking with them briefly. It's odd that you somehow find out that all of these people are also labeled by psychiatrists.

I mean no harm, I'm trying to offer the best answer I can. I too come from a family rife with schizophrenia and various mental illnesses. I am not schizophrenic but I am mentally ill and I am on a cocktail of psych meds that help me see the world more clearly and I suppose they make me less crazy and more normal. If I don't take my medications, within two days I'm a danger to others and myself, I'm incredibly destructive, I do things I don't remember later, and the whole time I feel fine and like I'm being perfectly reasonable and when I'm back on my meds and understand what I did I can't even comprehend how I could possibly feel normal or like my behavior wasn't appalling.

My mother is schizophrenic, as was her mother before her and as is her sister. None of them trust doctors. Unfortunately for my sister and I this has lead to us having to cut our mother completely out of our lives. She's destructive, she's irrational and illogical and hateful and just... she stalks and harasses and... I do hope I'm never like her but I realize that without my medication I am just as awful. It's terrible to have a parent who is mentally ill and unstable and harmful.

I suppose what I really mean to get at is that your complaint of being frequently accosted by mentally ill people, whom you know to be mentally ill because you can "sense" it might be a symptom of some type of mental illness in yourself. I could be absolutely wrong, but I think given two options: is it more likely that you are actually a magnet for insane people, or is more likely that you have a delusion that you can be certain that most people who approach you are insane? I'd have to guess it's much more likely that there aren't hoards of mentally ill people who are out to get you as soon as they see you... and very unlikely that you are actually capable of sensing mental illness in complete strangers.

In either case I do hope you find an adequate solution to your problems.


lol I wouldn't say accosted.

But yes, they do talk to me and this is enough to upset me.

It's always been that way, I know they talk to me more than other people because it's easy to tell when I'm some place and they're ignoring everyone else.

If this were happening because I'm crazy, I would have been diagnosed years ago, since it's always been the case.

I haven't seen a psych in around 5 years but I was the same person then and wasn't diagnosed with schizophrenia.

Anyway, I just skimmed through most of your paragraphs so I'm not quoting you directly, but I think a lot of people have that ability to sense that. At least a lot of posters in this thread said that they have the same thing.

I've always had random people tell me they feel really connected to me etc. I never really felt the same way or knew exactly what they meant but it's been a lifelong thing.



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15 Jan 2012, 2:39 pm

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I don't really understand why you have such a terrible opinion of anyone who's different from the norm, when you say people can sense you're different from the norm. Do you have an issue with yourself you could be projecting? not trying to be mean, but it just seems like you have an unhealthy amount of dislike for anyone who does not strike you as 'normal.'


I don't trust them, is the thing.

And I also don't like people who try too hard to be different because they think it's cool.

I don't know, I guess when you've been told that you're "weird" from a young age ( and I was bullied pretty mercilessly up until 8th grade) you start trying to be normal or at the very least start trying to appear less than crazy (which I've also been called, YEARS ago lol, but according to doctors I'm not).

I've had some pretty bad experiences with schizophrenics in general and I know they aren't all the same, but they have similar qualities, or else they wouldn't have a diagnosis.

And it's not that I immediately fear the ones that I don't know, it's that if I can't even trust my own family members, I see no reason why I would ever be able to trust them and the fact that the seem to stick to like glue legitimately does scare the sh*t out of me.

I'm still trying to shake off my father, it's been HELL for the last few years, he's nearly impossible to get rid of and having people who are similar to him approach me so often when I'mdoing something as simple as grocery shopping really drives it home for me.

I know they aren't actually out to "get" me but having that feeling that I can't escape them for some reason is enough to scare me.

And also, being different from the norm is something I try to downplay in myself. I guess some people think it's a positive trait, I don't dislike people who are authentically different/quirky/eccentric whatever. I DO dislike people who are very clearly trying to be different from the norm and really aren't, I see this more often that I see truly (harmless) eccentric people.

Anyway, that just me. I'm not saying the shouldn't exist. I'm just saying I VERY strongly desire that they leave me alone lol.



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15 Jan 2012, 3:00 pm

Just because I am myself different from the norm, doesn't mean I automatically have to accept everyone else who is different from the norm. Some people who are different, are basically harmless. And some people who are different, are quite dangerous and malicious types to be around.

Also sometimes one person's way of being different could clash horribly with my own. Not that there is anything "wrong" with either of us being the way we are, just that I don't mesh well with that person.

I reserve the right to make my own judgements about people at all times.



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15 Jan 2012, 3:03 pm

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I don't really understand why you have such a terrible opinion of anyone who's different from the norm, when you say people can sense you're different from the norm. Do you have an issue with yourself you could be projecting? not trying to be mean, but it just seems like you have an unhealthy amount of dislike for anyone who does not strike you as 'normal.'


I don't trust them, is the thing.

And I also don't like people who try too hard to be different because they think it's cool.

I don't know, I guess when you've been told that you're "weird" from a young age ( and I was bullied pretty mercilessly up until 8th grade) you start trying to be normal or at the very least start trying to appear less than crazy (which I've also been called, YEARS ago lol, but according to doctors I'm not).

I've had some pretty bad experiences with schizophrenics in general and I know they aren't all the same, but they have similar qualities, or else they wouldn't have a diagnosis.

And it's not that I immediately fear the ones that I don't know, it's that if I can't even trust my own family members, I see no reason why I would ever be able to trust them and the fact that the seem to stick to like glue legitimately does scare the sh*t out of me.

I'm still trying to shake off my father, it's been HELL for the last few years, he's nearly impossible to get rid of and having people who are similar to him approach me so often when I'mdoing something as simple as grocery shopping really drives it home for me.

I know they aren't actually out to "get" me but having that feeling that I can't escape them for some reason is enough to scare me.

And also, being different from the norm is something I try to downplay in myself. I guess some people think it's a positive trait, I don't dislike people who are authentically different/quirky/eccentric whatever. I DO dislike people who are very clearly trying to be different from the norm and really aren't, I see this more often that I see truly (harmless) eccentric people.

Anyway, that just me. I'm not saying the shouldn't exist. I'm just saying I VERY strongly desire that they leave me alone lol.


You don't trust them as opposed to who? and if you feel you're also one of these different types one can sense.......why would that people who fit the norm be more trustworty. I have found it to be the other way around a lot of times.

Trying to hard to be different is a whole different topic then people who just are not the norm, and I think it annoys anyone if people try to hard to be something they aren't.

I always got called weird even at an early age, and when I was younger sometimes I did try to figrure out how to be more normal and act that way. Then I figured if no one was going to put any effort into trying to understand or relate to me why should I pretend to be normal just to satisfy them? So now I don't even try to be normal anymore

I can also understand being reminded of negative family experiances may make you want to avoid certain things, however keep in mind avoiding anything abnormal is not going to make you any more normal, and its not nessisarly going to ensure you only come into contact with people you trust.


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15 Jan 2012, 3:04 pm

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Just because I am myself different from the norm, doesn't mean I automatically have to accept everyone else who is different from the norm. Some people who are different, are basically harmless. And some people who are different, are quite dangerous and malicious types to be around.

Also sometimes one person's way of being different could clash horribly with my own. Not that there is anything "wrong" with either of us being the way we are, just that I don't mesh well with that person.

I reserve the right to make my own judgements about people at all times.

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15 Jan 2012, 6:07 pm

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I don't really understand why you have such a terrible opinion of anyone who's different from the norm, when you say people can sense you're different from the norm. Do you have an issue with yourself you could be projecting? not trying to be mean, but it just seems like you have an unhealthy amount of dislike for anyone who does not strike you as 'normal.'


I don't trust them, is the thing.

And I also don't like people who try too hard to be different because they think it's cool.

I don't know, I guess when you've been told that you're "weird" from a young age ( and I was bullied pretty mercilessly up until 8th grade) you start trying to be normal or at the very least start trying to appear less than crazy (which I've also been called, YEARS ago lol, but according to doctors I'm not).

I've had some pretty bad experiences with schizophrenics in general and I know they aren't all the same, but they have similar qualities, or else they wouldn't have a diagnosis.

And it's not that I immediately fear the ones that I don't know, it's that if I can't even trust my own family members, I see no reason why I would ever be able to trust them and the fact that the seem to stick to like glue legitimately does scare the sh*t out of me.

I'm still trying to shake off my father, it's been HELL for the last few years, he's nearly impossible to get rid of and having people who are similar to him approach me so often when I'mdoing something as simple as grocery shopping really drives it home for me.

I know they aren't actually out to "get" me but having that feeling that I can't escape them for some reason is enough to scare me.

And also, being different from the norm is something I try to downplay in myself. I guess some people think it's a positive trait, I don't dislike people who are authentically different/quirky/eccentric whatever. I DO dislike people who are very clearly trying to be different from the norm and really aren't, I see this more often that I see truly (harmless) eccentric people.

Anyway, that just me. I'm not saying the shouldn't exist. I'm just saying I VERY strongly desire that they leave me alone lol.


You don't trust them as opposed to who? and if you feel you're also one of these different types one can sense.......why would that people who fit the norm be more trustworty. I have found it to be the other way around a lot of times.

Trying to hard to be different is a whole different topic then people who just are not the norm, and I think it annoys anyone if people try to hard to be something they aren't.

I always got called weird even at an early age, and when I was younger sometimes I did try to figrure out how to be more normal and act that way. Then I figured if no one was going to put any effort into trying to understand or relate to me why should I pretend to be normal just to satisfy them? So now I don't even try to be normal anymore

I can also understand being reminded of negative family experiances may make you want to avoid certain things, however keep in mind avoiding anything abnormal is not going to make you any more normal, and its not nessisarly going to ensure you only come into contact with people you trust.


I don't trust them as opposed to people who aren't visibly impaired or otherwise crazy.

I just want to make it clear, I'm not saying that's fair at all. I'm not being fair or open-minded, I'm enacting a prejiduice against them that I'm totally aware of.

So I'm not saying this is what other people should do, either.

And i agree, it won't ensure that I never have to deal with these types again or even that "normal" people won't screw me over, but I feel like the less crazy people you are surrounded by, the less you will attract and the lesser the likelihood that you might end up like them someday.

When I was younger, after I started trying to be "normal" I did stop caring and trying later on, too. I guess around 18-19.

But I've been very unsuccessful in life, so far, I guess because I just stopped caring about everything else as well. I'm 27, I have NOTHING. I know that isn't the case for everyone but for it's very all or nothing and if I'm going to make anything of myself I have to cut these types out completely.

So now, I'm trying to make my life resemble something normal enough for me, having money being a huge part of that. I'll have my degree in a few years and I'll be as close to normal as I'm ever going to get. Not associating with anyone who might take me backwards is a step I decided to take a few years ago, and like I said before, I don't think it's the "solution" for everyone (and I don't even think there is one) but it's the best thing for me.



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15 Jan 2012, 6:17 pm

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Just because I am myself different from the norm, doesn't mean I automatically have to accept everyone else who is different from the norm. Some people who are different, are basically harmless. And some people who are different, are quite dangerous and malicious types to be around.

Also sometimes one person's way of being different could clash horribly with my own. Not that there is anything "wrong" with either of us being the way we are, just that I don't mesh well with that person.

I reserve the right to make my own judgements about people at all times.

Quoted for truth.


This is what I believe, DEEPLY.

I don't necessarily consider myself eccentric, I SUPPOSE mildly so but iIve been called eccentric and WEIRD all my life, so that's what people think of me.

Some people like it, other people don't.

But yeah, I might be weird or different, but that damn sure doesn't mean I group myself in with the rejects of society. If anything it means I'm going to work harder to put distance between myself and them.

If a "crazy" person can make something out of themselves, good for them. I would be less likely to be repelled by them in this case (given that they were't potentially dangerous or extremely manipulative) and I know that isn't fair, but I don't care.

I don't want to be associated with them, it isn't just the crazy part (or even necessarily the fact that they are crazy in and of itself, more so it's the qualities they are likely to posses) that I don't like, it's that I have goals and planning on doing something with my life, hanging out with these types or even dealing with my family members who fit into this category is not part of the plan.



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15 Jan 2012, 9:33 pm

I'm sure the feeling is mutual



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16 Jan 2012, 3:15 pm

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If it were mutual this thread wouldn't exist.



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16 Jan 2012, 3:25 pm

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dianthus wrote:
Just because I am myself different from the norm, doesn't mean I automatically have to accept everyone else who is different from the norm. Some people who are different, are basically harmless. And some people who are different, are quite dangerous and malicious types to be around.

Also sometimes one person's way of being different could clash horribly with my own. Not that there is anything "wrong" with either of us being the way we are, just that I don't mesh well with that person.

I reserve the right to make my own judgements about people at all times.

Quoted for truth.


This is what I believe, DEEPLY.

I don't necessarily consider myself eccentric, I SUPPOSE mildly so but iIve been called eccentric and WEIRD all my life, so that's what people think of me.

Some people like it, other people don't.

But yeah, I might be weird or different, but that damn sure doesn't mean I group myself in with the rejects of society. If anything it means I'm going to work harder to put distance between myself and them.

If a "crazy" person can make something out of themselves, good for them. I would be less likely to be repelled by them in this case (given that they were't potentially dangerous or extremely manipulative) and I know that isn't fair, but I don't care.

I don't want to be associated with them, it isn't just the crazy part (or even necessarily the fact that they are crazy in and of itself, more so it's the qualities they are likely to posses) that I don't like, it's that I have goals and planning on doing something with my life, hanging out with these types or even dealing with my family members who fit into this category is not part of the plan.


That's ok, us rejects of society probably prefer to distance ourselves from people like you as well :evil:


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16 Jan 2012, 4:09 pm

I attract hippies like MAD for some reason. Just hippies.

It gets a little weird sometimes.



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16 Jan 2012, 5:19 pm

Hmmm I attract hippies, bums, bi polar people, sociopaths, and various other "strange" people. Strange people tend to attract other strange people. My group of friends is all strange, but we know we're strange and we admit it.



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16 Jan 2012, 5:38 pm

I used to attract folks that are looking for a handout or help. Their intincts are proven right. My dad used to call me "soft touch."



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16 Jan 2012, 5:46 pm

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I attract hippies like MAD for some reason. Just hippies.

It gets a little weird sometimes.


I'm glad you know what I mean about the hippies.

It's not like I think they're dangerous because they're anything but, but I (hope that) I appear nothing like a hippie myself.



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16 Jan 2012, 5:49 pm

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I attract hippies like MAD for some reason. Just hippies.

It gets a little weird sometimes.


I'm glad you know what I mean about the hippies.

It's not like I think they're dangerous because they're anything but, but I (hope) that I appear nothing like a hippie myself.


I don't mind them (I identify with them a bit, I'm quite a hippy belief wise I just don't look it), it just gets weird when you realise most of the people who know would have been better off growing up in the 60's :lol:



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16 Jan 2012, 5:56 pm

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Just because I am myself different from the norm, doesn't mean I automatically have to accept everyone else who is different from the norm. Some people who are different, are basically harmless. And some people who are different, are quite dangerous and malicious types to be around.

Also sometimes one person's way of being different could clash horribly with my own. Not that there is anything "wrong" with either of us being the way we are, just that I don't mesh well with that person.

I reserve the right to make my own judgements about people at all times.

Quoted for truth.


This is what I believe, DEEPLY.

I don't necessarily consider myself eccentric, I SUPPOSE mildly so but iIve been called eccentric and WEIRD all my life, so that's what people think of me.

Some people like it, other people don't.

But yeah, I might be weird or different, but that damn sure doesn't mean I group myself in with the rejects of society. If anything it means I'm going to work harder to put distance between myself and them.

If a "crazy" person can make something out of themselves, good for them. I would be less likely to be repelled by them in this case (given that they were't potentially dangerous or extremely manipulative) and I know that isn't fair, but I don't care.

I don't want to be associated with them, it isn't just the crazy part (or even necessarily the fact that they are crazy in and of itself, more so it's the qualities they are likely to posses) that I don't like, it's that I have goals and planning on doing something with my life, hanging out with these types or even dealing with my family members who fit into this category is not part of the plan.


That's ok, us rejects of society probably prefer to distance ourselves from

people like you as well :evil:


If you really think you are a reject of society than I'm genuinely sorry for saying that, because you seem nice enough to me.

What I was saying is that IMO (most) people on the spectrum have an opportunity to make something of themselves. Maybe you're eccentric, but you're probably talented in some way, so you aren't a lost cause.

And since you're in charge of your faculties, you have a better chance of overcoming your difficulties than a crazy person does.

So I don't think you're a reject of society, but I don't know you so I can't say for sure. You seem well spoken enough.

If you're just grouping yourself in with them as an act of solidarity, I would personally advise you against it but that's totally your choice.

In any case, I didn't mean to put you or anyone here in that category.