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ictus75
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26 Jan 2012, 9:51 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
My understanding is people with high IQs would be able to zip through all the schoolwork in no time flat, and are placed in grades above their grade level because they find the school work too easy, they complete it very quickly and accurately and they are, generally, straight A students. That is what I thought having a high IQ meant. I was not like that. In fact, I didn't even like finishing papers. I answered maybe one question and that was all I wanted to do. What I really needed were tutors and a different approach to mathematics, in particular.


Well, everyone is different. Some people with high IQs do breeze through school. Others, have difficulties because of the social aspect of school, or the way classes are taught don't really connect with them. While I have a fairly high IQ, I really hated school and found it difficult to manage. When I did find a class/teacher that I connected with, I did very well. But the rest of it was a real pain. "If you'd only apply yourself." Ha, if I was only interested in the classes, or if they let me be me instead of trying to shove me into an NT box.

I love learning, I just don't always love a formal school situation.


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26 Jan 2012, 10:01 pm

ictus75 wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
My understanding is people with high IQs would be able to zip through all the schoolwork in no time flat, and are placed in grades above their grade level because they find the school work too easy, they complete it very quickly and accurately and they are, generally, straight A students. That is what I thought having a high IQ meant. I was not like that. In fact, I didn't even like finishing papers. I answered maybe one question and that was all I wanted to do. What I really needed were tutors and a different approach to mathematics, in particular.


Well, everyone is different. Some people with high IQs do breeze through school. Others, have difficulties because of the social aspect of school, or the way classes are taught don't really connect with them. While I have a fairly high IQ, I really hated school and found it difficult to manage. When I did find a class/teacher that I connected with, I did very well. But the rest of it was a real pain. "If you'd only apply yourself." Ha, if I was only interested in the classes, or if they let me be me instead of trying to shove me into an NT box.

I love learning, I just don't always love a formal school situation.

That is why I needed extra help. I could not connect in the classroom so I retreated into my own little world. There was too much going on so my response to all the stimuli was to retreat into my horse obsession. I did much better in classes where teachers were very strict with everyone and were charismatic when they taught. I did the worst in classes where the teacher sat at the desk most the time while certain students were allowed to distract me. Sometimes I did the distracting, too. It was worse in the lower grades. I got to the point where I didn't say a lot during class and resented the ones who did. I had trouble concentrating with any noise. I was a picky learner.



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27 Jan 2012, 12:13 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
It is in my case. I am not as intelligent as my IQ scores imply. I am just really good at figuring out how to score high on those exams. Tell me how this helps me in real life?

I will provide a concrete example. When I was in elementary school, I scored high on all the placement exams, the initial intelligence evaluations, and the standardized tests even though I made plenty of Fs on my report card and was generally considered a very poor student. Teachers could not figure out why. I received lecturing which did not help. I could not explain the problem. They did not know what they were talking about. According to my test scores, I should have had As in every class. I should have been a star student. The test scores prevented me from getting the learning assistance I needed to succeed as a student.


I can't say whether I am as intelligent as my IQ scores imply or not (lots of people tell me they think I'm intelligent, although I admit it's not always clear to me as to why they say this), but I had similar experiences in school for similar reasons - I had low grades, and instead of receiving assistance so I could learn more effectively, I was punished for not getting the straight A's my IQ scores said I should. It did get bad enough that in the fifth grade, I was put into a special education class, at which point I was able to work at my own pace and ask for help and receive it and I did extremely well. Middle school was back to the same thing from grades 1-4, and I nearly went to a high school that would be more like my fifth grade experience, except for some reason I still don't understand, my father decided I would stay in a mainstream high school, where I continued to struggle and achieve far less than anyone believed I should.

Other people, even people on this forum, who have no idea what this is like will hurl accusations of laziness and boredom, but they weren't there and they don't get it.

I am also tired of people who worship at the altar of "high IQ" as if it is some kind of magical superpower that grants one the ability to do anything one wants as well as simply bypass or work around real cognitive impairments. Not true for me, apparently not true for you. Probably not true for a great many people.



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27 Jan 2012, 12:24 am

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It doesn't matter if you found a few high-IQ people who haven't "advanced humanity," that's not what IQ measures, and it remains the best predictor for success in life.


Didn't someone already debunk that? Because IQ tests don't predict squat asides from a vulnerability to depression.


Why are you denying science?


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