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Tattoos: love 'em, or leave 'em,?
I like tattoos but I can't handle pain. 6%  6%  [ 6 ]
The whole point of tattoos in Western society escapes me. 50%  50%  [ 50 ]
I ignore/don't notice them. 11%  11%  [ 11 ]
Tattoos are awesome and I have one or more. 33%  33%  [ 33 ]
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06 Sep 2012, 4:57 pm

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So what other reasons are there for having tattoos except to make people pay you more attention ie mark yourself out from other people?


To permanently decorate your skin with a picture you like or is meaningful to you.



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06 Sep 2012, 5:01 pm

hanyo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
So what other reasons are there for having tattoos except to make people pay you more attention ie mark yourself out from other people?


To permanently decorate your skin with a picture you like or is meaningful to you.


The pictures invariably look chap and tacky though. It's an insult to the design of the human body to try and improve upon it - like gilding the lily.

It's like doodling across the Mona Lisa or some other great work of art.

I don't want to deny anyone the right to have a tattoo but I reserve the right to have my own opinion on it.

Tattoos look ok on sailors or people who do hard manual labour - on anyone else they look out of context (to me), as if the person is trying to project a hard image which often can't be backed up.



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06 Sep 2012, 5:04 pm

nessa238 wrote:
hanyo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
So what other reasons are there for having tattoos except to make people pay you more attention ie mark yourself out from other people?


To permanently decorate your skin with a picture you like or is meaningful to you.


The pictures invariably look chap and tacky though. It's an insult to the design of the human body to try and improve upon it - like gilding the lily.

It's like doodling across the Mona Lisa or some other great work of art.

I don't want to deny anyone the right to have a tattoo but I reserve the right to have my own opinion on it.


And people can have opinions on your opinions, especially when you put your opinions forward as objective facts, or insist on assigning imaginary motives to other people.

Personally, I find any notion that the human body can not/should not be "altered," or that it has a "design" to be superstitious nonsense.


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06 Sep 2012, 5:05 pm

XFilesGeek wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
hanyo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
So what other reasons are there for having tattoos except to make people pay you more attention ie mark yourself out from other people?


To permanently decorate your skin with a picture you like or is meaningful to you.


The pictures invariably look chap and tacky though. It's an insult to the design of the human body to try and improve upon it - like gilding the lily.

It's like doodling across the Mona Lisa or some other great work of art.

I don't want to deny anyone the right to have a tattoo but I reserve the right to have my own opinion on it.


And people can have opinions on your opinions, especially when you put your opinions forward as objective facts, or insist on assigning imaginary motives to other people.

I find any notion that the body can not/should not be "altered," or that it has a "design" to be superstitious nonsense.


It's not superstitious, it's admiration for the work of art that the human body undoubtedly is.
Tattoos are like an arrogant attempt to improve on nature (which usually fails).

I didn't say the human body shouldn't be altered - it's up to the individual; this is just my view on the matter.



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06 Sep 2012, 5:07 pm

nessa238 wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
hanyo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
So what other reasons are there for having tattoos except to make people pay you more attention ie mark yourself out from other people?


To permanently decorate your skin with a picture you like or is meaningful to you.


The pictures invariably look chap and tacky though. It's an insult to the design of the human body to try and improve upon it - like gilding the lily.

It's like doodling across the Mona Lisa or some other great work of art.

I don't want to deny anyone the right to have a tattoo but I reserve the right to have my own opinion on it.


And people can have opinions on your opinions, especially when you put your opinions forward as objective facts, or insist on assigning imaginary motives to other people.

I find any notion that the body can not/should not be "altered," or that it has a "design" to be superstitious nonsense.


It's not superstitious, it's admiration for the work of art that the human body undoubtedly is.
Tattoos are like an arrogant attempt to improve on nature (which usually fails).


Exactly.

It's superstitious nonsense.


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06 Sep 2012, 5:08 pm

XFilesGeek wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
hanyo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
So what other reasons are there for having tattoos except to make people pay you more attention ie mark yourself out from other people?


To permanently decorate your skin with a picture you like or is meaningful to you.


The pictures invariably look chap and tacky though. It's an insult to the design of the human body to try and improve upon it - like gilding the lily.

It's like doodling across the Mona Lisa or some other great work of art.

I don't want to deny anyone the right to have a tattoo but I reserve the right to have my own opinion on it.


And people can have opinions on your opinions, especially when you put your opinions forward as objective facts, or insist on assigning imaginary motives to other people.

I find any notion that the body can not/should not be "altered," or that it has a "design" to be superstitious nonsense.


It's not superstitious, it's admiration for the work of art that the human body undoubtedly is.
Tattoos are like an arrogant attempt to improve on nature (which usually fails).


Exactly.

It's superstitious nonsense.


In your opinion



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06 Sep 2012, 5:10 pm

nessa238 wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
hanyo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
So what other reasons are there for having tattoos except to make people pay you more attention ie mark yourself out from other people?


To permanently decorate your skin with a picture you like or is meaningful to you.


The pictures invariably look chap and tacky though. It's an insult to the design of the human body to try and improve upon it - like gilding the lily.

It's like doodling across the Mona Lisa or some other great work of art.

I don't want to deny anyone the right to have a tattoo but I reserve the right to have my own opinion on it.


And people can have opinions on your opinions, especially when you put your opinions forward as objective facts, or insist on assigning imaginary motives to other people.

I find any notion that the body can not/should not be "altered," or that it has a "design" to be superstitious nonsense.


It's not superstitious, it's admiration for the work of art that the human body undoubtedly is.
Tattoos are like an arrogant attempt to improve on nature (which usually fails).


Exactly.

It's superstitious nonsense.


In your opinion


See how easy that is?

Now, just take that and apply it to your, "Everyone who gets a tattoo is a faux individual," and we'll be good to go.


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06 Sep 2012, 5:14 pm

XFilesGeek wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
hanyo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
So what other reasons are there for having tattoos except to make people pay you more attention ie mark yourself out from other people?


To permanently decorate your skin with a picture you like or is meaningful to you.


The pictures invariably look chap and tacky though. It's an insult to the design of the human body to try and improve upon it - like gilding the lily.

It's like doodling across the Mona Lisa or some other great work of art.

I don't want to deny anyone the right to have a tattoo but I reserve the right to have my own opinion on it.


And people can have opinions on your opinions, especially when you put your opinions forward as objective facts, or insist on assigning imaginary motives to other people.

I find any notion that the body can not/should not be "altered," or that it has a "design" to be superstitious nonsense.


It's not superstitious, it's admiration for the work of art that the human body undoubtedly is.
Tattoos are like an arrogant attempt to improve on nature (which usually fails).


Exactly.

It's superstitious nonsense.


In your opinion


See how easy that is?

Now, just take that and apply it to your, "Everyone who gets a tattoo is a faux individual," and we'll be good to go.


Lol

I was saying that in my opinion too though and that still stands whether you like it or not

Unfortunately when people post on a thread asking for opinions about something you are likely to get differing opinions, some of which you might not like

I'm sure as a person with tattoos you're hard enough to take it though :wink:



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06 Sep 2012, 5:14 pm

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It's not superstitious, it's admiration for the work of art that the human body undoubtedly is.
Tattoos are like an arrogant attempt to improve on nature (which usually fails).


The same could be said about so many things like plastic surgery, shaving, make-up, clothing that shapes your body, etc. If people want to alter their looks that is their choice.

Plus nature ruined my body. If my skin was supposed to be smooth and mark free nature shouldn't have given me stretch marks.



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06 Sep 2012, 5:18 pm

hanyo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:

It's not superstitious, it's admiration for the work of art that the human body undoubtedly is.
Tattoos are like an arrogant attempt to improve on nature (which usually fails).


The same could be said about so many things like plastic surgery, shaving, make-up, clothing that shapes your body, etc. If people want to alter their looks that is their choice.

Plus nature ruined my body. If my skin was supposed to be smooth and mark free nature shouldn't have given me stretch marks.


Yes people have the choice what they do with their bodies just as I have my choice of opinion about it

Your argument about stretch marks is illogical - if stretch marks occur, they occur ie it was the natural course of your life for them to occur - was it from having a baby?

Who knew people with tattoos were so intolerant of others' opinions!

(I did actually)



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06 Sep 2012, 5:23 pm

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Lol

I was saying that in my opinion too though and that still stands whether you like it or not


Well, no, you didn't phrase it as your "opinion."

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Unfortunately when people post on a thread asking for opinions about something you are likely to get differing opinions, some of which you might not like


And when you start assigning motives to other people, or making judgements about them, you don't get a free pass by saying, "It's just my opinion!" In fact, when you decide to post your "opinion," on a public message board, it's a pretty good bet that others are going to respond to it with their own opinions, especially when said opinion is insulting and nonsensical.

If you don't like people pointing out that your opinions are silly, keep them confined to a private diary.


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06 Sep 2012, 5:23 pm

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Your argument about stretch marks is illogical - if stretch marks occur, they occur ie it was the natural course of your life for them to occur - was it from having a baby?


No, it wasn't. It was from puberty and I was greatly traumatized by them. When I got them I had no idea what they were and at first thought I had skin cancer or something. I didn't know until much later they can happen to people other than pregnant women and fat people. They made me withdraw even more and I couldn't go swimming or wear shorts unless I wanted to look like a red and white zebra or tiger.

I don't see how that is illogical. If smooth unmarked skin is the ideal my shot at having it was already ruined.



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06 Sep 2012, 5:27 pm

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Lol

I was saying that in my opinion too though and that still stands whether you like it or not


Well, no, you didn't phrase it as your "opinion."

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Unfortunately when people post on a thread asking for opinions about something you are likely to get differing opinions, some of which you might not like


And when you start assigning motives to other people, or making judgements about them, you don't get a free pass by saying, "It's just my opinion!" In fact, when you decide to post your "opinion," on a public message board, it's a pretty good bet that others are going to respond to it with their own opinions, especially when said opinion is insulting and nonsensical.[/quote]

And how polite is your opinion of my opinion?

Your responses are defensive in the extreme which indicates to me that you aren't totally at ease with having tattoos, otherwise you wouldn't be bothered by my opinions.

And there was me thinking a discussion board was for people to post their opinion when all along it was for everyone to have the same opinion as you.



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06 Sep 2012, 5:28 pm

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Lol

I was saying that in my opinion too though and that still stands whether you like it or not


Well, no, you didn't phrase it as your "opinion."

Quote:
Unfortunately when people post on a thread asking for opinions about something you are likely to get differing opinions, some of which you might not like


And when you start assigning motives to other people, or making judgements about them, you don't get a free pass by saying, "It's just my opinion!" In fact, when you decide to post your "opinion," on a public message board, it's a pretty good bet that others are going to respond to it with their own opinions, especially when said opinion is insulting and nonsensical.

If you don't like people pointing out that your opinions are silly, keep them confined to a private diary.


My opinions aren't silly, they make perfect sense to me.



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06 Sep 2012, 5:31 pm

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Your argument about stretch marks is illogical - if stretch marks occur, they occur ie it was the natural course of your life for them to occur - was it from having a baby?


No, it wasn't. It was from puberty and I was greatly traumatized by them. When I got them I had no idea what they were and at first thought I had skin cancer or something. I didn't know until much later they can happen to people other than pregnant women and fat people. They made me withdraw even more and I couldn't go swimming or wear shorts unless I wanted to look like a red and white zebra or tiger.

I don't see how that is illogical. If smooth unmarked skin is the ideal my shot at having it was already ruined.


I didn't say everyone had to have smooth unmarked skin - peoples' bodies are all varied.
The human body is a work of art because of how it functions as well as how it looks. It's a miracle of science.

I don't need to have a perfect body to be able to marvel at all the processes that go on inside it.



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06 Sep 2012, 5:48 pm

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And how polite is your opinion of my opinion?


How polite is it to accuse people you don't know of "faux individualism?"

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Your responses are defensive in the extreme which indicates to me that you aren't totally at ease with having tattoos, otherwise you wouldn't be bothered by my opinions.


You seem to have an unfortunate habit of assigning imaginary motives to people you've never met.

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And there was me thinking a discussion board was for people to post their opinion when all along it was for everyone to have the same opinion as you.


Yes, this is a discussion board. Why do you feel people are not allowed to criticize your opinion?


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