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sammie96
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19 Dec 2013, 12:09 pm

Narcissism: 0.8%, 2nd percentile
Machiavellianism: 1.4%,, 9th percentile
Psychopathy: 0.3%, 0 percentile



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19 Dec 2013, 12:52 pm

Narcissism 1.6 11

Machiavellianism 2.6 40

Psychopathy 1.6 11

I'm not really too surprised. I wouldn't call myself a skilled manipulator, but I've developed some tendencies towards it as a defence mechanism. (With some influence from certain role models.)

I'm not likely to try to manipulate anybody unless under stress and/or backed into a corner though.



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19 Dec 2013, 12:56 pm

It's intriguing to me how low most of us seem to score on this... It makes sense that autism would make it quite hard to be manipulative, or at least to benefit from being manipulative; but what is it about autism that makes us unusually unlikely to be psychopathic or narcissistic?

The few of us who scored average interest me, too. Do those people have a more NT-like concept of others, or of society?

And then there are the people who scored high on Machiavellianism--how did they come by those opinions, that tendency to manipulate social situations, to plan for their social futures? That seems to be very hard for the average autistic person, and yet they're doing it somehow.


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19 Dec 2013, 12:57 pm

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Narcissism 1.4

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Machiavellianism 2.1

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Psychopathy 1.7

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19 Dec 2013, 1:09 pm

Callista wrote:
And then there are the people who scored high on Machiavellianism--how did they come by those opinions, that tendency to manipulate social situations, to plan for their social futures? That seems to be very hard for the average autistic person, and yet they're doing it somehow.


It's one thing to have that general attitude and another to actually manage to carry Machiavellianism off properly. I agree entirely that autism makes the latter harder (at least without very intense long-lasting training for that specific purpose, if that).

I thought some of the questions that presumably had to do with Machiavellianism just seemed like common sense in this world of political animals. Like the one about avoiding unnecessary conflict because you might need allies later. But then, perhaps the fact that I consider that common sense supports the Machiavellian hypothesis. :D

I guess I didn't score that that high, only 40th percentile, but to address your question... How did I come by those opinions? Watching schoolyard politics, influenced by my father, and probably by some works of fiction (though a popular example of such, Lord of the Flies, I couldn't bear to finish; never read the actual Machiavelli's works, though they're not really fiction, I guess?). I consider it a survival skill to try to plan for one's social future to some extent.



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19 Dec 2013, 1:22 pm

Yeah, okay, here we go...

Average scores for WP Aspies:
Narcissism: 38.8th percentile
Machiavellianism: 23.9th percentile
Psychopathy: 25.3rd percentile

I averaged 40 scores for this... I'd expect it to be much nearer the 50th percentile if we weren't different from NTs somehow.


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19 Dec 2013, 1:51 pm

Narcissism 0.9
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Machiavellianism 1.4
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Psychopathy 0.3
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19 Dec 2013, 2:06 pm

Narcissism - 1.4 / 9%

Machiavellianism - 2.6 / 40%

Psychopathy - 1.1 / 4%

I guess I'm not crazy :/


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19 Dec 2013, 2:49 pm

Narcissism: 1.3 / 7 percentile
Machiavellianism: 1.9 / 17 percentile
Psychopathy: 1 / 3 percentile


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19 Dec 2013, 2:57 pm

Trait Score Percentile

Narcissism 1.6 11
Narcissism is an egotistical preoccupation with self. [more]
Machiavellianism 2.6 40
Machiavellianism is a tendency to be manipulative and deceitful. [more]
Psychopathy 1.9 17
Psychopathy reflects shallow emotional responses. [more]



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19 Dec 2013, 4:55 pm

i dont get this.

Narcissism 0.6 - 1
Narcissism is an egotistical preoccupation with self.

Machiavellianism 1.9 - 17
Machiavellianism is a tendency to be manipulative and deceitful. It usually stems from a lack of respect or disillusionment for others.

Psychopathy 1 - 3
Psychopathy reflects shallow emotional responses.

I most certainly do not manipulate anyone nor am i deceitful :( i dont understand.



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19 Dec 2013, 5:22 pm

The test results agree with your opinion of yourself. You are at the 1st percentile for narcissism, the 17th for Machiavellianism, and the 3rd for psychopathy. That means you are below average in Machiavellianism, and unusually low in both narcissism and psychopathy.

Percentiles are something you learn about in statistics, usually. They mean the percent of the population that scored lower than you. So if you are at the 30th percentile on some test, then 30% scored lower than you and 70% scored higher.


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19 Dec 2013, 5:58 pm

The way the test results describe the percentile is bad; it says the percent is what percentage of people have scored higher, when it appears to actually be the way Callista described it. Worried me at first.

Narcissism - 1.1, 4%
Machiavellianism - 2.7, 46%
Psychopathy - 0.7, 1%

Some other tests have indicated me to be more narcissistic; this was slightly surprising, but entirely welcome.

On the Mach test I got 68. I think some of the questions were subject to interpretation. I believe that certain immoral things can get someone ahead in life while I do not necessarily support them, so I wasn't sure how to answer on some.



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19 Dec 2013, 6:53 pm

Oh well that makes a lot more sense, thanks a lot, was getting a bit worried for a sec.



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19 Dec 2013, 7:01 pm

I think, too, that the creators of the test need to adjust it, or create a separate test for people who have been hoodwinked or manipulated by Psychopaths. I took the test and I kept thinking to myself that I would be an asshat to think/function in the manner that I always/normally would. I would now consider utilizing some of the behaviors (I see them as strategies) noted on the test, in an effort to enhance protection of myself (as opposed to utilizing for the purpose of doing wrong by others, of course). If that makes any sense.

So, I guess what I am trying to say, is; I answered honestly, to the best of my knowledge, ability and awareness of self, however, I would have liked to have answered differently, based on my experience of being manipulated/deceived by the Devil, himself.


My Scores:
N 0.8 -- 2%
M 0.4 --0%
P 0.4 -- 0%



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19 Dec 2013, 7:42 pm

Narcissism - 1.3, 7%
Machiavellianism - 1.3, 7%
Psychopathy - 0.9, 3%


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