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24 Jan 2007, 5:07 pm

A PVC dress at a conservative navy ball?!
What you see as your sexuality is someone elses porn.



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24 Jan 2007, 5:12 pm

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A PVC dress at a conservative navy ball?!
What you see as your sexuality is someone elses porn.


The ball wasn't especially conservative, just formal.
And I'm sorry, Lonermutant, but however you slice it, that pic is NOT pornographic. Pornography is the explicit depiction of sex, and, by some definitions, the sex organs. Neither of which are depicted in that pic or any of my other pics. Therefore they are not pornographic. Now, for goodness' sake, get over it.

ETA -- I think you're having trouble with the distinction between something being sexual/pornographic and something being sensual/alluring; my pics fall into the latter category, not the former.



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24 Jan 2007, 5:15 pm

Melantha wrote:
Lonermutant wrote:
A PVC dress at a conservative navy ball?!
What you see as your sexuality is someone elses porn.


The ball wasn't especially conservative, just formal.
And I'm sorry, Lonermutant, but however you slice it, that pic is NOT pornographic. Pornography is the explicit depiction of sex, and, by some definitions, the sex organs. Neither of which are depicted in that pic or any of my other pics. Therefore they are not pornographic. Now, for goodness' sake, get over it.



I think you have to be a male virgin to see the irony in this...



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24 Jan 2007, 6:32 pm

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I fail to see what a picture of me has to do with anything in this thread.


Agreed. I smell troll all over LM's posts.

[On-topic]Melantha, not every male Aspie is a misogynist. Some who post here, like myself, sometimes post things that sound very anti-sexual and lean toward misogyny, but aren't that. Sometimes I post here when I'm in a mood where posting is a bad idea, thus my posts reflect my bad mood. I'm pretty sure there's a few here who've done the same thing.

Again, I can only speak for myself when I say I'm not anti-sexual or a misogynyst. I might be a lot more conservative and picky when it comes to relationships and sex, I might not have as normal and/or high a sex drive as most that it needs to be embraced, but I'm by no means a misogynyst or anti-sexual. I'm just very reserved than most.[/On-Topic]



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24 Jan 2007, 6:44 pm

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[On-topic]Melantha, not every male Aspie is a misogynist. Some who post here, like myself, sometimes post things that sound very anti-sexual and lean toward misogyny, but aren't that. Sometimes I post here when I'm in a mood where posting is a bad idea, thus my posts reflect my bad mood. I'm pretty sure there's a few here who've done the same thing.

Again, I can only speak for myself when I say I'm not anti-sexual or a misogynyst. I might be a lot more conservative and picky when it comes to relationships and sex, I might not have as normal and/or high a sex drive as most that it needs to be embraced, but I'm by no means a misogynyst or anti-sexual. I'm just very reserved than most.[/On-Topic]


Of course my original post was not intended to attack all male aspies as misogynists; I know there are plenty of you who are not like that at all, and I absolutely exclude you from criticism. My complaint was solely directed against those who go around on this site posting grossly distorted views of women and "females", by which I assume is meant human women, not female meerkats or something. :lol:
Thanks for clarifying your position.



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24 Jan 2007, 6:46 pm

Melantha wrote:
GenericBrandUserName wrote:
[On-topic]Melantha, not every male Aspie is a misogynist. Some who post here, like myself, sometimes post things that sound very anti-sexual and lean toward misogyny, but aren't that. Sometimes I post here when I'm in a mood where posting is a bad idea, thus my posts reflect my bad mood. I'm pretty sure there's a few here who've done the same thing.

Again, I can only speak for myself when I say I'm not anti-sexual or a misogynyst. I might be a lot more conservative and picky when it comes to relationships and sex, I might not have as normal and/or high a sex drive as most that it needs to be embraced, but I'm by no means a misogynyst or anti-sexual. I'm just very reserved than most.[/On-Topic]


Of course my original post was not intended to attack all male aspies as misogynists; I know there are plenty of you who are not like that at all, and I absolutely exclude you from criticism. My complaint was solely directed against those who go around on this site posting grossly distorted views of women and "females", by which I assume is meant human women, not female meerkats or something. :lol:
Thanks for clarifying your position.


You're quite welcome. :) *Gives her cookies*



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24 Jan 2007, 7:22 pm

Whew ! ! Glad that's over and done with ! !!

Can we move on, now ???


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24 Jan 2007, 8:11 pm

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HOWEVER, and i speak here from vast experience, that men who have difficulties relating to women for whatever reason (and i am not just talking about men with AS here), do indeed have a tendency to develop a certain bitterness against the female sex


I understand what you're saying here, but you're also bringing up the exact point I'm trying to make. How can a person have difficulties relating to WOMEN? I mean, we're all different. We're all unique people. The only thing we have in common is our physiology, and even that only on a very general level. Saying you have trouble relating to "women" is like saying you specifically have trouble relating to, say, Italians. Or people with blue eyes. See how ridiculous that sounds?

The reason is that a typical adolescent-to-young-adult heterosexual male's goal when interacting with a woman is, directly or indirectly, sex. There are distinct hormonal reasons why men are compelled towards this end, and evolution has pretty much guaranteed it (from an evolutionary perspective, it would be unhealthy not to be interested in sex).



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25 Jan 2007, 3:26 am

Ill give you males some advice don't try and tell females about stuff about you as they will say it isn't yet if you put the sercuirty level on your porn block on the internet explorer hmm....


You are trying to explain something to them like trying to explain autism to an extrovert, they will keep coming back to the same thing no matter how much you say sex means jack to you, as just been with the person is special...

It is classed as Fetish porn and I am going to leave it at that.... No matter what your views is or isn't its kinky cloths... google it if you don't think its true...



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25 Jan 2007, 11:35 am

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It's certainly not all of the guys, just a select few. You can't really blame that on AS as there is no way to know whether everyone on the forum really has AS.

Within the scope of WP, you're quite right and I agree with you. Though meeting Aspies in real life without the benefit or pitfalls of Internet communication, what I've seen is AS does have its own contribution: the dogmatic approach to topics of interest. Music, games, non-platonic relationships, politics and worldview, on and on. It's one way, it cannot possibly be the other way, so the other person is flat out wrong. etc. etc.


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25 Jan 2007, 11:42 am

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I could hug you for that whole post if hugging didn't scare the hell out of me....

so I could instead thank you and bow at the waist in a formal manner, those japanese people know what they are doing

<and did you notice shortly down the road exit 128 is RIGHT after a sign that is 128 out of san fran?>


Aww! 8) That's ok! I like hugging but if it scares you, I wouldn't do it. So I'll bow back! I also like doing salutes, not like in the military, but the medieval style with the right hand across the chest while kneeling, head down. That has a lot of meaning to me.
Honestly I haven't seen the exit 128 sign to which you're referring. It's been a few years, and the last time I went westbound I-80 towards Sacramento, Caltrans was still putting up all the exit numbering signs. It was about time!! :D


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25 Jan 2007, 12:09 pm

I love caltrans if only for those few signs near auburn



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25 Jan 2007, 12:49 pm

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Ill give you males some advice don't try and tell females about stuff about you as they will say it isn't yet if you put the sercuirty level on your porn block on the internet explorer hmm....


You are trying to explain something to them like trying to explain autism to an extrovert, they will keep coming back to the same thing no matter how much you say sex means jack to you, as just been with the person is special...

It is classed as Fetish porn and I am going to leave it at that.... No matter what your views is or isn't its kinky cloths... google it if you don't think its true...


Is this even in English? It's almost completely unintelligible. And to whom is it addressed? Are you referring to my PVC dress and gloves? Good grief, this is getting ridiculous. Have you people never seen anyone non-mainstream in your entire lives? It's a kind of material, no more, no less. I like the shine. There's nothing "kinky" about it unless you're a weirdo with a strange fetish. And just because SOME people fetishize something does not mean that thing is always "kinky" or "fetishistic". Some guys are hung up on shoes or feet, too. Does that make pics with shoes and feet in them "fetish porn"? No. It's all about intention. I don't care about how strange perverted people might react to my pic; they see "dirtiness" pretty much everywhere anyway, so why should I bother censoring myself for them? I only care about the people whose opinions matter to me, my friends and loved ones, who all like my pics and think they are beautiful. They don't see anything "kinky" or "pornographic" about them, because they don't have dirty, corrupted minds. Now, please, can we just GET OVER THIS and behave like semi-mature human beings?????????



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25 Jan 2007, 1:26 pm

Melantha,

It's part of a double standard that many (but not all) Aspies have. They want their own uniqueness and idiosyncrasies accepted by other people, primarily non-Aspies but in reality non-Aspies and Aspies alike, but have some sort of rationale to excuse their own unwillingness to accept other people's uniqueness and idiosyncrasies, or people who simply do not adhere to their own standard. Part of the problem is that the Aspie does not even realize that the double standard occurs at all. Another problem is that the Aspie may feel that he or she is allowed to be an exception, based on his own poor life experiences.


Logitechdog,

The generalizations you make can be turned the other way as well:
I'll give you females some advice, don't try and tell males about stuff about females, as the males will say it isn't so...
You are trying to explain something to them like trying to explain extrovert (NT) to an autistic person...

Your generalizations are assailable either way.


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25 Jan 2007, 1:59 pm

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The generalizations you make can be turned the other way as well:
I'll give you females some advice, don't try and tell males about stuff about females, as the males will say it isn't so...
You are trying to explain something to them like trying to explain extrovert (NT) to an autistic person...


"Stinkypuppy"

By the way that was all one paragraph on advice to a male why would I want to give advice to a female if a male is trying to explain himself...

Love to know how you think a autism person can not grasp a extrovert... think it's pretty easy to grasp people that like socializing and stick introverts under a disorder as they don't understand why you can be alone... Problem we have is the facial, eyes, tone, and putting ourselves forward with them signals when we don't show them no matter how much you try to fit in unless your signals start working your never going to be accepted, if you look how they explain As

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Asperger's Syndrome is at this time an incurable condition, which occurs mainly in males, although females can inherit this disorder. Asperger's is on the ASD (Autistic Spectrum disorder). It is therefore linked With Autism. Those who suffer with autism are on the higher end of the autistic Spectrum, where as those with Asperger's tend to be on the milder end of the scale. The main difficulty people find with having Asperger's is social interaction with others. Asperger's cannot be defined by one set of Characteristics, because those with AS, don't have exactly the same difficulties that another individual with Asperger's may have.
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They are only focusing on MRI scans, on the brain wiring, if they stopped for 1 second and stopped looking at you as a damaged person...

"melantha"

Sorry but if you’re wondering why people are fallowing you just Google ( kinky clothes ).... They might not think that but to allot of people that is what a Dominatrix would wear, you have to accept what you wear is going to put across what type of person you are, and also attract allot of attention, even if that is not what your intention is... Only people who find a disliking to that type of material will see you as that... Just the way the world works...



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25 Jan 2007, 1:59 pm

Every time I think this thread is winding down, it flares up again ! !!

Hasen't Melantha explained she only meant SOME of the ASpie guys on this site??? Not ALL ASpie guys ??

And what's it matters what she posts on her page??? Not like she has her own porn site ! !!


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