28 Mar 2014, 4:11 pm
Sweetleaf
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28 Mar 2014, 4:29 pm
paxfilosoof wrote:
THINK ABOUT THIS:
People find it arrogant if we, aspies, say that we are superior.
But most aspies don't care about neurotypicals who act sh** against us.
WAKE UP!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!
Yes, we aspies are superior, and this is based on true science. We have larger brains, we are better in engineering fields on average, we are more logically, we are more pedantic in writing (and have better spelling/grammar). The reason why the society is looking down on us happened in the last 50 years. And we should cure this ill treatments of neurotypicals. I end with Susan cain (the power of introverts):
We introverts (most aspies) are at the same level as women were 50 years ago.
Wake up.
Peace.
People find it arrogant if we, aspies, say that we are superior.
But most aspies don't care about neurotypicals who act sh** against us.
WAKE UP!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!
Yes, we aspies are superior, and this is based on true science. We have larger brains, we are better in engineering fields on average, we are more logically, we are more pedantic in writing (and have better spelling/grammar). The reason why the society is looking down on us happened in the last 50 years. And we should cure this ill treatments of neurotypicals. I end with Susan cain (the power of introverts):
We introverts (most aspies) are at the same level as women were 50 years ago.
Wake up.
Peace.
28 Mar 2014, 4:43 pm
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30 Mar 2014, 8:36 am
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30 Mar 2014, 8:51 am
Sweetleaf
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30 Mar 2014, 9:00 am
30 Mar 2014, 9:09 am
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30 Mar 2014, 9:16 am
30 Mar 2014, 9:36 am
Callista wrote:
Nobody's superior to anybody else. Not in value, anyhow.
But here's the deal: People have different skills. Some people are disabled; that doesn't mean they can't have useful skills. Some people are not disabled; that doesn't mean that all of their skills will be better than those who do have a disability. It's okay to value and celebrate your skills. But it is not okay to declare yourself superior because of them.
Say you are an Aspie and you are really (and stereotypically) good at math. You like being good at math. You want to become a mathematician. You are aware that most NTs stop at algebra, while you are happily playing with proofs. This makes you better at math than most NTs. It does NOT make you superior; it makes you a better mathematician.
Say you're an NT and you are really good at communication. You're an extrovert. You like interacting with others. You have a large circle of friends and you're making connections for a career in business. You understand that autistic people are socially awkward and sometimes have trouble even using language at all. This makes you better at communication than autistic people. It does NOT make you superior; it makes you a better communicator.
And if being really good at something does not make you superior, then neither should an impairment make you inferior.
"Equal" does not mean "equal in skill" or "equal in talent" or even equal in social status, wealth, or opportunity. It means that every person is worth as much as every other person, and should have the same rights, and should be protected just as much as everyone else. It means that every person should have the opportunity to use their skills and to become the best they can become at the things they choose to pursue. It means working toward equal treatment and equal rights for everyone. It means that no one has to bow to anyone else, but everyone has to respect everyone else.
But here's the deal: People have different skills. Some people are disabled; that doesn't mean they can't have useful skills. Some people are not disabled; that doesn't mean that all of their skills will be better than those who do have a disability. It's okay to value and celebrate your skills. But it is not okay to declare yourself superior because of them.
Say you are an Aspie and you are really (and stereotypically) good at math. You like being good at math. You want to become a mathematician. You are aware that most NTs stop at algebra, while you are happily playing with proofs. This makes you better at math than most NTs. It does NOT make you superior; it makes you a better mathematician.
Say you're an NT and you are really good at communication. You're an extrovert. You like interacting with others. You have a large circle of friends and you're making connections for a career in business. You understand that autistic people are socially awkward and sometimes have trouble even using language at all. This makes you better at communication than autistic people. It does NOT make you superior; it makes you a better communicator.
And if being really good at something does not make you superior, then neither should an impairment make you inferior.
"Equal" does not mean "equal in skill" or "equal in talent" or even equal in social status, wealth, or opportunity. It means that every person is worth as much as every other person, and should have the same rights, and should be protected just as much as everyone else. It means that every person should have the opportunity to use their skills and to become the best they can become at the things they choose to pursue. It means working toward equal treatment and equal rights for everyone. It means that no one has to bow to anyone else, but everyone has to respect everyone else.
This is the essence of embracing neurodiversity. It doesn't mean rearranging the hierarchy so a fresh set of people get to be on the top and a fresh set of people get kicked down to the bottom. It means envisioning a social structure that is more web than ladder because everybody is a unique mixture of strengths and weaknesses.
30 Mar 2014, 10:07 am
30 Mar 2014, 10:32 am
Janissy wrote:
Callista wrote:
Nobody's superior to anybody else. Not in value, anyhow.
But here's the deal: People have different skills. Some people are disabled; that doesn't mean they can't have useful skills. Some people are not disabled; that doesn't mean that all of their skills will be better than those who do have a disability. It's okay to value and celebrate your skills. But it is not okay to declare yourself superior because of them.
Say you are an Aspie and you are really (and stereotypically) good at math. You like being good at math. You want to become a mathematician. You are aware that most NTs stop at algebra, while you are happily playing with proofs. This makes you better at math than most NTs. It does NOT make you superior; it makes you a better mathematician.
Say you're an NT and you are really good at communication. You're an extrovert. You like interacting with others. You have a large circle of friends and you're making connections for a career in business. You understand that autistic people are socially awkward and sometimes have trouble even using language at all. This makes you better at communication than autistic people. It does NOT make you superior; it makes you a better communicator.
And if being really good at something does not make you superior, then neither should an impairment make you inferior.
"Equal" does not mean "equal in skill" or "equal in talent" or even equal in social status, wealth, or opportunity. It means that every person is worth as much as every other person, and should have the same rights, and should be protected just as much as everyone else. It means that every person should have the opportunity to use their skills and to become the best they can become at the things they choose to pursue. It means working toward equal treatment and equal rights for everyone. It means that no one has to bow to anyone else, but everyone has to respect everyone else.
But here's the deal: People have different skills. Some people are disabled; that doesn't mean they can't have useful skills. Some people are not disabled; that doesn't mean that all of their skills will be better than those who do have a disability. It's okay to value and celebrate your skills. But it is not okay to declare yourself superior because of them.
Say you are an Aspie and you are really (and stereotypically) good at math. You like being good at math. You want to become a mathematician. You are aware that most NTs stop at algebra, while you are happily playing with proofs. This makes you better at math than most NTs. It does NOT make you superior; it makes you a better mathematician.
Say you're an NT and you are really good at communication. You're an extrovert. You like interacting with others. You have a large circle of friends and you're making connections for a career in business. You understand that autistic people are socially awkward and sometimes have trouble even using language at all. This makes you better at communication than autistic people. It does NOT make you superior; it makes you a better communicator.
And if being really good at something does not make you superior, then neither should an impairment make you inferior.
"Equal" does not mean "equal in skill" or "equal in talent" or even equal in social status, wealth, or opportunity. It means that every person is worth as much as every other person, and should have the same rights, and should be protected just as much as everyone else. It means that every person should have the opportunity to use their skills and to become the best they can become at the things they choose to pursue. It means working toward equal treatment and equal rights for everyone. It means that no one has to bow to anyone else, but everyone has to respect everyone else.
This is the essence of embracing neurodiversity. It doesn't mean rearranging the hierarchy so a fresh set of people get to be on the top and a fresh set of people get kicked down to the bottom. It means envisioning a social structure that is more web than ladder because everybody is a unique mixture of strengths and weaknesses.
I completely agree, comparing people in overall worth against one another isn't healthy from an individual's perspective and it leads to individuals trying to force a fit into "more valuable" roles in society, not the ones where they can contribute the most; that sort of mentality can carry over to an economy with holes in it; which is why I think we have a shortage of blue collar labor in this country.
30 Mar 2014, 6:37 pm
30 Mar 2014, 7:25 pm
Sweetleaf wrote:
paxfilosoof wrote:
THINK ABOUT THIS:
People find it arrogant if we, aspies, say that we are superior.
But most aspies don't care about neurotypicals who act sh** against us.
WAKE UP!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!
Yes, we aspies are superior, and this is based on true science. We have larger brains, we are better in engineering fields on average, we are more logically, we are more pedantic in writing (and have better spelling/grammar). The reason why the society is looking down on us happened in the last 50 years. And we should cure this ill treatments of neurotypicals. I end with Susan cain (the power of introverts):
We introverts (most aspies) are at the same level as women were 50 years ago.
Wake up.
Peace.
People find it arrogant if we, aspies, say that we are superior.
But most aspies don't care about neurotypicals who act sh** against us.
WAKE UP!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!
Yes, we aspies are superior, and this is based on true science. We have larger brains, we are better in engineering fields on average, we are more logically, we are more pedantic in writing (and have better spelling/grammar). The reason why the society is looking down on us happened in the last 50 years. And we should cure this ill treatments of neurotypicals. I end with Susan cain (the power of introverts):
We introverts (most aspies) are at the same level as women were 50 years ago.
Wake up.
Peace.
If you don't mind, I'd like to second that facepalm.
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30 Mar 2014, 10:23 pm
androbot2084 wrote:
Neurodiversity is affirmative action privileges for the bullies.
31 Mar 2014, 3:43 pm
