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NiceCupOfTea wrote:
Shadi2 wrote:
Since when is intentional rudeness an Aspie trait, and/or something specific to WP? I have noticed quite the opposite, on WP, and elsewhere. On the other hand there is plenty of (intentionally) rude people in the world, and most of them are not autistic. Myself I know that eventho I certainly have been rude (I would rather call this "honest" than "rude") quite a few times, it was never intentional, and I don't go around looking for fights.
P.S. there is a thread on WP especially for this, go there and have fun insulting others lol Say something rude to the person above you
P.S. there is a thread on WP especially for this, go there and have fun insulting others lol Say something rude to the person above you
Soz for double post, but this is easier than editing my previous post.
You must not have used the same internet as me since 2000, love. It's true there are lots of rude NTs as well - and thank heaven for that because without them the internet would barely be worth browsing except for strictly informational or practical purposes.
But Aspies still have something of a reputation for using their Aspieness as an excuse to be rude and unsociable. It's probably unfair, but the few that I have met have largely brought it upon themselves - because they were, er, rude and unsociable.
Still I'd rather have those honestly obnoxious Aspies than the obnoxiously "caring" ones who go almost aggressively out of their way to show what caring people they are. It's like they have a need to be liked, or something? I dunno, I don't get it, don't pretend to get it, and am not much interested in getting it.
I'm quite clearly on the "wrong" planet; I'd absolutely love to find a "right" planet but I don't think such a place exists for me. I'm a dickhead, a complete and utter dickhead, most of the time.
My point is that intentional (I insist on the word "intentional") rudeness is not an Aspie trait, it is a personality trait, some people like being rude to provoke a reaction, and/or they are being rude while realising that they are. As I mentioned I have been rude quite often, but it was not intentional ... and I got spanked quite a few times too (by my mother) for that, so I learned not to say everything that goes through my mind. I am also rather unsociable, but again its not because I chose to be, and I don't intend to be rude, its just the way I am, anyway I feel like an outcast, even in my own family, and I am happy by myself.
I agree with you that some people are hypocrites tho. For example once I was at a store and my purse was on my cart, and for some reason I had left it open (yeah I know it was stupid of me), and a woman nicely tells me to be careful that someone could steal my purse, and I thank her for the advice, and I thought she was nice. Then a few minutes later I see her in another alley, she was telling another woman how stupid I was. So yeah, some people are just hypocrites acting as if they were nice.
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Shadi2 wrote:
NiceCupOfTea wrote:
Shadi2 wrote:
Since when is intentional rudeness an Aspie trait, and/or something specific to WP? I have noticed quite the opposite, on WP, and elsewhere. On the other hand there is plenty of (intentionally) rude people in the world, and most of them are not autistic. Myself I know that eventho I certainly have been rude (I would rather call this "honest" than "rude") quite a few times, it was never intentional, and I don't go around looking for fights.
P.S. there is a thread on WP especially for this, go there and have fun insulting others lol Say something rude to the person above you
P.S. there is a thread on WP especially for this, go there and have fun insulting others lol Say something rude to the person above you
Soz for double post, but this is easier than editing my previous post.
You must not have used the same internet as me since 2000, love. It's true there are lots of rude NTs as well - and thank heaven for that because without them the internet would barely be worth browsing except for strictly informational or practical purposes.
But Aspies still have something of a reputation for using their Aspieness as an excuse to be rude and unsociable. It's probably unfair, but the few that I have met have largely brought it upon themselves - because they were, er, rude and unsociable.
Still I'd rather have those honestly obnoxious Aspies than the obnoxiously "caring" ones who go almost aggressively out of their way to show what caring people they are. It's like they have a need to be liked, or something? I dunno, I don't get it, don't pretend to get it, and am not much interested in getting it.
I'm quite clearly on the "wrong" planet; I'd absolutely love to find a "right" planet but I don't think such a place exists for me. I'm a dickhead, a complete and utter dickhead, most of the time.
My point is that intentional (I insist on the word "intentional") rudeness is not an Aspie trait, it is a personality trait, some people like being rude to provoke a reaction, and/or they are being rude while realising that they are. As I mentioned I have been rude quite often, but it was not intentional ... and I got spanked quite a few times too (by my mother) for that, so I learned not to say everything that goes through my mind. I am also rather unsociable, but again its not because I chose to be, and I don't intend to be rude, its just the way I am, anyway I feel like an outcast, even in my own family, and I am happy by myself.
I agree with you that some people are hypocrites tho. For example once I was at a store and my purse was on my cart, and for some reason I had left it open (yeah I know it was stupid of me), and a woman nicely tells me to be careful that someone could steal my purse, and I thank her for the advice, and I thought she was nice. Then a few minutes later I see her in another alley, she was telling another woman how stupid I was. So yeah, some people are just hypocrites acting as if they were nice.
Hang on. You said yourself it was stupid to leave your purse open but you're upset that the woman told someone else you were stupid when you're telling us it was stupid?? So the woman was a hypocrite but you're doing exactly the same thing but that's ok because you're talking about yourself and you don't have to speak nicely to yourself but that woman should have spoken nicely about you or else she isn't nice?
Mind. Blown.
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Raleigh wrote:
Shadi2 wrote:
NiceCupOfTea wrote:
Shadi2 wrote:
Since when is intentional rudeness an Aspie trait, and/or something specific to WP? I have noticed quite the opposite, on WP, and elsewhere. On the other hand there is plenty of (intentionally) rude people in the world, and most of them are not autistic. Myself I know that eventho I certainly have been rude (I would rather call this "honest" than "rude") quite a few times, it was never intentional, and I don't go around looking for fights.
P.S. there is a thread on WP especially for this, go there and have fun insulting others lol Say something rude to the person above you
P.S. there is a thread on WP especially for this, go there and have fun insulting others lol Say something rude to the person above you
Soz for double post, but this is easier than editing my previous post.
You must not have used the same internet as me since 2000, love. It's true there are lots of rude NTs as well - and thank heaven for that because without them the internet would barely be worth browsing except for strictly informational or practical purposes.
But Aspies still have something of a reputation for using their Aspieness as an excuse to be rude and unsociable. It's probably unfair, but the few that I have met have largely brought it upon themselves - because they were, er, rude and unsociable.
Still I'd rather have those honestly obnoxious Aspies than the obnoxiously "caring" ones who go almost aggressively out of their way to show what caring people they are. It's like they have a need to be liked, or something? I dunno, I don't get it, don't pretend to get it, and am not much interested in getting it.
I'm quite clearly on the "wrong" planet; I'd absolutely love to find a "right" planet but I don't think such a place exists for me. I'm a dickhead, a complete and utter dickhead, most of the time.
My point is that intentional (I insist on the word "intentional") rudeness is not an Aspie trait, it is a personality trait, some people like being rude to provoke a reaction, and/or they are being rude while realising that they are. As I mentioned I have been rude quite often, but it was not intentional ... and I got spanked quite a few times too (by my mother) for that, so I learned not to say everything that goes through my mind. I am also rather unsociable, but again its not because I chose to be, and I don't intend to be rude, its just the way I am, anyway I feel like an outcast, even in my own family, and I am happy by myself.
I agree with you that some people are hypocrites tho. For example once I was at a store and my purse was on my cart, and for some reason I had left it open (yeah I know it was stupid of me), and a woman nicely tells me to be careful that someone could steal my purse, and I thank her for the advice, and I thought she was nice. Then a few minutes later I see her in another alley, she was telling another woman how stupid I was. So yeah, some people are just hypocrites acting as if they were nice.
Hang on. You said yourself it was stupid to leave your purse open but you're upset that the woman told someone else you were stupid when you're telling us it was stupid?? So the woman was a hypocrite but you're doing exactly the same thing but that's ok because you're talking about yourself and you don't have to speak nicely to yourself but that woman should have spoken nicely about you or else she isn't nice?
Mind. Blown.
How am I doing the exact same thing???? I'm not talking behind my back am I??? See the thing is the woman didn't tell me she thought it was stupid, nor that she even thought that leaving my purse opened and unattended was stupid, she was nice to me and advised me nicely not to leave my purse opened and unattended, but she told someone else that she thought I was stupid. Understand the difference? There is also a difference between saying a person did something stupid, and saying the person is stupid.
And no, I don't think I was actually stupid, I was simply not careful enough with my purse, I was about 16 and didn't realise at the time that there was so many dishonest people.
It sure doesn't take much to blow you mind lol.
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you been to the Netherlands, kraftie?
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Booyakasha wrote:
NiceCupOfTea wrote:
Honestly sometimes so tempted to post for the sake of getting banned, just so I'm not tempted to come here and wind myself up any longer.
Where are all the Aspies who are rude as*holes when you need them? I have come across enough of them in the past, f*** only knows. Where have they all gone? Lurkers with attitude problems or chips on your shoulder: join WP for my sake. Please. I need you. I need something to undercut this stifling atmosphere before I choke to death on it, it's so sickly "sweet" and "nice".
LOL!! Tee-hee. Smile smile. Hug hug. I wub you and miss you KoR!!
Vomit vomit.
Where are all the Aspies who are rude as*holes when you need them? I have come across enough of them in the past, f*** only knows. Where have they all gone? Lurkers with attitude problems or chips on your shoulder: join WP for my sake. Please. I need you. I need something to undercut this stifling atmosphere before I choke to death on it, it's so sickly "sweet" and "nice".
LOL!! Tee-hee. Smile smile. Hug hug. I wub you and miss you KoR!!
Vomit vomit.
If you want to be banned, just say it
says the dork who banned herself
Well I had to test those buttons, no?
And why not ban oneself? Just to feel what's it like to be one the other side of the banhammer for a change.
Shadi2 wrote:
How am I doing the exact same thing???? I'm not talking behind my back am I??? See the thing is the woman didn't tell me she thought it was stupid, nor that she even thought that leaving my purse opened and unattended was stupid, she was nice to me and advised me nicely not to leave my purse opened and unattended, but she told someone else that she thought I was stupid. Understand the difference? There is also a difference between saying a person did something stupid, and saying the person is stupid.
And no, I don't think I was actually stupid, I was simply not careful enough with my purse, I was about 16 and didn't realise at the time that there was so many dishonest people.
It sure doesn't take much to blow you mind lol.
Lol. No, it doesn't take much. Human interaction is fascinating. To me it was pretty clear that the woman was telling you you were stupid.
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Raleigh wrote:
Shadi2 wrote:
How am I doing the exact same thing???? I'm not talking behind my back am I??? See the thing is the woman didn't tell me she thought it was stupid, nor that she even thought that leaving my purse opened and unattended was stupid, she was nice to me and advised me nicely not to leave my purse opened and unattended, but she told someone else that she thought I was stupid. Understand the difference? There is also a difference between saying a person did something stupid, and saying the person is stupid.
And no, I don't think I was actually stupid, I was simply not careful enough with my purse, I was about 16 and didn't realise at the time that there was so many dishonest people.
It sure doesn't take much to blow you mind lol.
Lol. No, it doesn't take much. Human interaction is fascinating. To me it was pretty clear that the woman was telling you you were stupid.
No, she never told me I was stupid, she was (seemed) nice, and told me nicely (the way a person who actually cares about your well being would do) that I should not leave my purse opened and unattended, that someone might steal. But a few minutes later, while still in the store, I caught her telling another person that she had told a "stupid girl" (me) not to leave her purse unattended (and other nice comments about me).
When people give you an advice, it doesn't automatically mean they think you are stupid, most the time they are just trying to help.
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Shadi2 wrote:
Raleigh wrote:
Shadi2 wrote:
No, she never told me I was stupid, she was (seemed) nice, and told me nicely (the way a person who actually cares about your well being would do) that I should not leave my purse opened and unattended, that someone might steal. But a few minutes later, while still in the store, I caught her telling another person that she had told a "stupid girl" (me) not to leave her purse unattended (and other nice comments about me).
When people give you an advice, it doesn't automatically mean they think you are stupid, most the time they are just trying to help.
People can tell other people things without saying the actual words. By telling you what she did she was trying to make you aware of your stupidity. That was her purpose for speaking to you. Do you see that? She probably spoke nicely because she thought you were a little slow. Smart people are generally aware of the existence of thieves and don't leave valuables lying around. Granted, she shouldn't have spoken behind your back but I wouldn't have thought of her as a hypocrite because she already let you know that she thought you were not too bright.
Maybe I've been around teenagers too much. I remember saying things like, "If you jump off the roof on your skateboard, you'll break your neck." When really I was saying, "Mate, you're twelve different multicoloured kinds of stupid if you're doing that kind of s**t."
Sorry I started this. I was kind of joking to begin with. Jeez, that backfired, didn't it?
This whole conversation is stupid.
Bring on the freakin dragons.
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