Are Autistic Men More Likely to be Misogynistic?

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My mind is not logical enough to understand this, but somehow I sense that you are right.

I don't know, I had to read more into the marketing and gender.

Meanwhile:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/sex/11 ... y-men.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking ... women.html

Amity, here an interesting study:
http://www.psu.edu/dept/medialab/resear ... ation.html

When exposed to ads with sexually-suggestive female models, measures of female objectification showed below:




When exposed to ads with sexually-suggestive male models, measures of male objectification showed below:



Males still have it higher than females, but the blue bar (measure of male objectification among women) is higher than the blue bar in first graph (measure of female objectification among women). So ads with male models have its effect on some females and make them more accepting to objectification.

I'm aware, but if I'm going be condemned as one I might as well become one. comes a point where it isn't worth fighting anymore.

Sure, I agree that men can have similar experiences, I don't believe that I have communicated an opposing view?
The sample size in the study is small but is an interesting student level investigation.
The point of this thread was to discuss misogyny, I still think whats written in L&D is representative of the male view in general, but sometimes the posts here can be a bit demeaning towards women. I can understand the need to vent about the opposite sex, but the generalsations are at times inaccurate and not written with the consideration of ASD women who share similar grievances as the men.

A lot of women think what's naturally-toned is natural ain't really natural.

Like in this thread where two female users thought of a male user as being naturally toned, and I exposed how he was in fact taking steroids (from a previous thread he posted and admitted using them):

Scroll down and look for the post with pics.

viewtopic.php?t=234616&start=75

Just like how men might not notice the extras a regular girl will undertake to look more media standard attractive.

Oh, but I have never denied that, in the 2 years old thread I linked I wrote the below, it's just on the same page of where the link takes you:

Great, we agree, and except for your issue with my opinion at the top of this page haven't disagreed.
Misogyny exists here (WP), as it does everywhere else.
I'm out.

Ok don't want to go through 7 pages of this crap but just had a couple things to add. People with autism in general are more likely to experience systematic social rejection, bullying, ostracism and such things, and thus more likely to develop some bitterness towards the 'normals' than the normals. Sure an autistic male may be more likely to experience frusteration towards women because they can't get a date or hold onto a relationship if they do get one. An autistic female might have frustration towards men because of the same thing. The problem is when people want to attribute all their social failings and failings in general to the other gender, not so sure its more common for a frustrated person with aspergers or a neurotypical to go that route.

Also yesterday I was browsing a site I go to when I am bored/depressed cause it has stuff that makes me laugh...ironically it is called sadanduseless.com. But there was a piece where someone dressed up a skeleton and made it look as though the skeleton was taking selfies and it used a lot of common over-used styles of selfies people do...just making a joke and a bunch of people screamed misogyny, just because the skeleton appeared to be female....I mean I am a female and I see all kinds of annoying over-used selfies so I thought it was funny and also liked the irony that people who spend so much time on the phone are 'dead' to the world in a lot of ways so I thought the skeleton part was funny....also the same site has plenty of pages that make jokes about male stereotypes, but that one wasn't even particularly female stereotypes it was 'selfie-culture' humor and there are males in that. Is it man hating if there's an internet page that jokes about males who have beards? or things like that.

This is irrelevant, just because you apparently don't see gay men as men doesn't negate the fact that they are. Men are in charge of the system. Men are being objectified by other men. I never denied they were objectified. Just that women aren't the ones is charge of objectifying men. Men are. Does that make you uncomfortable? Do you need some graphs to help you understand it? Also, I don't see how women buying into the same system as men makes misogyny magically okay. Yes, we are fed total crap. Yes, men and women both believe it. Is it misogynistic? Sure, some of it is, but the fact that the media is objectifying both women and men doesn't mean it's okay.



Whoa, whoa, whoa. So, a thread that states “all women are x” is just “letting off steam” but a discussion question “do you think autistic men are more prone to misogyny?” is suddenly accusing you of being a misogynist? First, Sly, nobody actually accused you of being one. I haven't seen any finger pointing at specific users in this thread. Also, all of you guys getting defensive right now, take that frustration you're feeling at thinking you're being accused of something you don't do, and realize that is exactly how women feel when you make blanket statements about our entire gender. We enjoy being accused of negative things as much as you do.




I agree that autistics are more likely to be misogynistic/misandristic due to perseveration of negative experiences with the opposite sex. But where the line of something just being a complaint or humor as opposed to clear misogynistic/misandristic content has always seemed a little blurry to me. I mean, there is obvious stuff, and then there are people who get upset about skeletons taking selfies. >.> Which borders on ridiculous, and makes the things that are actually problematic seem to have less weight because “obviously these #crazyfeminists complain about everything.”

we as one of the more active posters in L&D seems only logical its one or more of us being talked about when talking about men in L&D

who decides what is a blanket statement, cause seems to me some people are setting the bar super low. the word woman was in his paragraph so hes making a blanket statement. saying some women, most women, a lot of women in my area. , isn't saying all women. I got get how its a blanket statement, unlike " all people with a disorder shouldn't be able to own guns" that's a blanket statement " some people with a disorder shouldn't be able to own guns" isn't

I haven't seen that much posts lately where it says all women do this. the thread that started this was about one person's irrational fears which he seemed to acknowledge but still has them. so how is saying he fears all women are like this the same as saying all women are? seems to say more about his fears then generalising women. I didn't seem to get a feeling of hating women from him.

not naming names is the same as saying everyone, cause when you don't know who did it then you start to wonder if they mean you. also funny every time this subject pops up theres a lack of examples of it happening. not to say that there's not some that do hate women and post, most of the time its banned and removed. seems the real debate isn't are autistic people more misogynist , but more what is misogyny. seems to be even debated by women, not just men. people seem to have largely varying ideas of what it is.
is it hating women or is it just any negative thing said about women? so is when women say stuff negative about women are they misogyny so they hate themselves?

tired of being told to feel bad about being a man, feel bad about being young, feel bad about being white.
how me not getting a gf is all my fault no way it could be anything to do with some women being materialistic or discriminating. no if a man can't find love something wrong with him, if a woman can't its cause men are misogyny and sexist. I haven't done anything besides not meet their requirements. hard to do anything when they won't even talk to me due to not having a job or being fat. i wonder if human race would be better off if were were all blind.

tired of men having to walk on glass about what we say or be called misogyny and have threads like this popl up. so women are so great and perfect they never do bad stuff i mean what should we just go and replace women with people, so some people are ____. people seem so ____. only time I get bothered is men are rapist. if its seems like so many men only care about women's looks. don't bother me. as I've seen most men do care a lot about looks above all else. I've noticed this is a trend in society that effects men and women in sigthly different ways.

feel this belongs more in PPR then here.

what if i start a thread "Are Autistic Women More Likely to be misandrist?"

if the problem is word usage then why not help the guy but telling him, it woudl be less anti women if you said some instead of just women.

often more then not we aren't anti women, of hate women, we just upset and all we know is how women where we live are, so it seems like when all the women in you area are a way that all women are cause to you thats all women.

I don't live in europe, or new york or australia I live in oregon usa. that said I try to use some or women in my area. etc. I suck at writing not everyone is a writing major.

Why is it anyone's fault? It sounds like you feel you're entitled to a girlfriend.


I doubt that the women where you live are all the same. But why generalize at all? If you have a bad experience with a woman, she's still just one individual woman.

A blanket statement is usually pretty obvious. It's saying that everyone from focus group x is y. So, for example, saying “women only want men who have awesome jobs” is a blanket statement. Saying “I met this woman who wouldn't date me because I'm not a doctor, how lame” is not a blanket statement, but a negative fact about a single woman. A blanket statement assumes something about an entire group of people. It is not a truth. It's an assumption. A negative blanket statement that is sexist, racist, or any-ist is, well, sexist, racist, or any-ist. Your example with the gun-rights as a scenario of a negative blanket statement that is able-ist would be “disabled people given guns will murder children” it has nothing to do with their rights it's everything to do with these people do these things so let's complain about it/villainize them. The problem isn't blanket statements themselves. It's using them in a way that is hurtful.


Not naming names and pointing fingers is not the same as saying everyone. Besides, the thread doesn't even accuse all autistic men of being misogynistic, it merely posits the quandary. If we started pulling out examples of posts then it would be making it very obvious that fingers are being pointed. With a general question posed (and feel free to make a topic about autistic women being more prone to misandry, because I'll agree with you) no one is actually being accused of anything. It's like asking “Do women prefer guys who aren't nice?” as opposed to spouting “Women hate nice guys” which is an accusation. Do you see the difference?


You don't have to feel bad about being a man, white, or privileged. None of those things were your choice. It was just the lot in life you were handed. Being autistic, and having trouble with social skills, which impacts you getting a girlfriend is not your fault. BUT it's also not women's fault you don't have a girlfriend. You have to remember that you are not owed a girlfriend for existing. Everyone is allowed to have their own personal standards, if you don't meet the standards of the people you're pursuing then you are pursuing the wrong people. I don't understand why that is such a difficult concept. I don't go after guys I know won't look at me twice.

never met any woman who looks at me twice as you said it. so guess I shouldn't go after women, which I am working on and posted about.