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01 Apr 2007, 4:42 pm

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Aspie women are fantastic. More thought, less drama.[/quote]

Why thank you!

It helps that we know what we want, and say so...

I can't stand it when guys don't say what they mean/want/need, or when they try to play mindgames with you - turns me off completely...



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01 Apr 2007, 5:16 pm

Sakhmet wrote:
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Aspie women are fantastic. More thought, less drama.


Why thank you!

It helps that we know what we want, and say so...

I can't stand it when guys don't say what they mean/want/need, or when they try to play mindgames with you - turns me off completely...


Yeah... I find two sorts of communication intolerable, and "not expressing important things clearly" is one of them.

The other is "drowns minimal content in copious amounts of verbiage." Recreational conversation which meanders through a large and random selection of uninteresting topics will never be appreciated by most aspies. Some NTs really need to install a spam filter between their brain and their mouth. Otherwise you will have to employ your own spam filter and stop listening to them, at which point trouble can't be far away.

Talk when you need to say something. When you have nothing to say, don't talk. It's only logical.



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01 Apr 2007, 6:09 pm

I didn't know i was such an agressive dumbass.
Thanx for informing me Kathy :)



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01 Apr 2007, 6:25 pm

geek wrote:
Recreational conversation which meanders through a large and random selection of uninteresting topics will never be appreciated by most aspies. Some NTs really need to install a spam filter between their brain and their mouth. Otherwise you will have to employ your own spam filter and stop listening to them, at which point trouble can't be far away.

Talk when you need to say something. When you have nothing to say, don't talk. It's only logical.


:lol: ***vigorous clapping***

I could not have said that better myself!



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01 Apr 2007, 6:29 pm

I don't need to read any other post than the first. That is B.S.

"Lack of sexual intimacy." Blech. I've heard too many female friends gripe about how every guy wants to get in her pants. Now these sluts gripe about how we don't wanna f**k every time we make eye contact (Well, talking about autistics, we might actually want to f**k every time we make eye contact, and that would be rarely. LOL.). B.S.

My ex was too into me sexually. There was even a point where she told me that she wasn't a relationship that was "less physical and more emotional." My exact reply word-for-word was, "I try to, but you won't let me." She broke up with me when I missed her after not seeing her for months. :roll:

Then I hear one of my female friends gripe about her ex being a horny piece of turd and just wanting to get in her pants. She wanted a guy who wanted to "just cuddle and talk." I wanted to hook up right then and there, but we live too far away. ^^;

I simply feel that it's a complete lie written by a psychologist (Mind you that psychologists are the enemy and will stop at nothing to give Aspies a bad name.[/paranoia]) in a sexually unfulfilling relationship. He wants to make someone else look bad.



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01 Apr 2007, 7:04 pm

Stevo_the_Human wrote:
I don't need to read any other post than the first. That is B.S.

"Lack of sexual intimacy." Blech. I've heard too many female friends gripe about how every guy wants to get in her pants. Now these sluts gripe about how we don't wanna f**k every time we make eye contact (Well, talking about autistics, we might actually want to f**k every time we make eye contact, and that would be rarely. LOL.). B.S.

My ex was too into me sexually. There was even a point where she told me that she wasn't a relationship that was "less physical and more emotional." My exact reply word-for-word was, "I try to, but you won't let me." She broke up with me when I missed her after not seeing her for months. :roll:

Then I hear one of my female friends gripe about her ex being a horny piece of turd and just wanting to get in her pants. She wanted a guy who wanted to "just cuddle and talk." I wanted to hook up right then and there, but we live too far away. ^^;

I simply feel that it's a complete lie written by a psychologist (Mind you that psychologists are the enemy and will stop at nothing to give Aspies a bad name.[/paranoia]) in a sexually unfulfilling relationship. He wants to make someone else look bad.


I once had a girlfriend who wanted to cuddle all the time and didn't like sex much.
It drove me nuts.
It's like they do the forplay but not the actual deed, such a teaser.

No girl wil ever not get enough sex if shes with me 8)
Wel that is unless they wanna do it 5 times a day that's just too much.



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01 Apr 2007, 7:51 pm

I am actually a very caring and thoughtful person towards people I love, so I find it insulting to suggest a person with Asperger's syndrome is incapable of sustaining a good relationship because of their having Asperger's syndrome. I've met socially adept NT women much less caring than me.



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01 Apr 2007, 8:09 pm

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The other thing you need to understand is that what you think you get from Aspie as far as signals is probably completely off. We don't do eye contact, body language, etc. the way you do. I get into trouble because if a guy stares at me, I stare back wondering what the heck is wrong with him. Meanwhile, he's taking it as I'm really interested. Next thing I know he's following me all over and making suggestive comments. Then I give the blank stare and they get mad. Another NT always has to explain this to me because I don't pick up on any of it. Sometimes I'm just staring off into space and not even at the person in question. But, what I'm really trying to say is that you could have just wasted two years on misinterpreted signals. You have no experience from the NT world to understand how we work. It's completely different. For us, if we like someone, we just say it. If we want someone, we just say that too. We don't really play flirtatious romance games. We say exactly what we mean. So just be careful with what you think you are seeing. It can really mess you up.

And as for your last statement about empowerment over you? No aspie guy would be into that. That's an NT thing.


It's insane how some people can't fathom that someone would actually SAY WHAT THEY MEANT. I'm shocked that NTs have such a problem with honesty.



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01 Apr 2007, 8:38 pm

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It's insane how some people can't fathom that someone would actually SAY WHAT THEY MEANT.


Itll catch on someday. right now, BIG MISTAKE!


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01 Apr 2007, 8:57 pm

Stevo_the_Human wrote:
I don't need to read any other post than the first. .


But what an interesting journey you missed. Glad you enjoy your opinion at least though.



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01 Apr 2007, 9:10 pm

Bart21 wrote:
No girl wil ever not get enough sex if shes with me 8)
Wel that is unless they wanna do it 5 times a day that's just too much.


It is? 8O Hmmm



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01 Apr 2007, 9:32 pm

It's things like that which make me glad that Asperger's isn't something people are commonly aware of. It's hard enough for me to make a good impression without some kind of presupposition working against me. Which, by the way, is what that site is - it looks like she just read over a brief description of autism and drew conclusions about autistic husbands from there. I read it the way an anthropomorphic squirrel fireman reads Richard Scarry. (Sorry, that was the best I could do :? )

It's also why I don't like to "come out of the closet;" there are so many people that would use AS as an offense against you when they're having a bad day or something.



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01 Apr 2007, 9:50 pm

Funny thing is, I read an article or something awhile back by an AS couple discouraging people with AS from pairing off unless they're absolutely certain, suggesting that difficulties in communication and functionality can compound with two AS individuals.

Now I see an article on why NT women shouldn't have relationships with Aspies.

Seems like they want to keep us from breeding if they can't cure us. And NT society in general wants Aspies:

1) To give them meaningful advancements or at least fill "tedious" positions they don't want.

2) To be satisfied with being alone. After all, we don't have feelings, obviously, if we say what we think.

3) To stop breeding.

4) To submit to cures and treatments.

Look, I'm all for constructive criticism. I'm all for strategies of expressing myself and meeting objectives and understanding people.

But if any other ethnic group (and I'm starting to think that's what we are) experienced the kinds of language leveled at Aspies, it would be as chilling as if these AS-critics paraded around in Nazi uniforms.

It feels as if they think we're too stupid to realize we're being talked about in these books and papers -- or maybe they're BETTING on us finding these articles and buying their books out of outrage.



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01 Apr 2007, 9:59 pm

PatrickG wrote:
Funny thing is, I read an article or something awhile back by an AS couple discouraging people with AS from pairing off unless they're absolutely certain, suggesting that difficulties in communication and functionality can compound with two AS individuals.

Now I see an article on why NT women shouldn't have relationships with Aspies.

Seems like they want to keep us from breeding if they can't cure us. And NT society in general wants Aspies:

1) To give them meaningful advancements or at least fill "tedious" positions they don't want.

2) To be satisfied with being alone. After all, we don't have feelings, obviously, if we say what we think.

3) To stop breeding.

4) To submit to cures and treatments.

Look, I'm all for constructive criticism. I'm all for strategies of expressing myself and meeting objectives and understanding people.

But if any other ethnic group (and I'm starting to think that's what we are) experienced the kinds of language leveled at Aspies, it would be as chilling as if these AS-critics paraded around in Nazi uniforms.

It feels as if they think we're too stupid to realize we're being talked about in these books and papers -- or maybe they're BETTING on us finding these articles and buying their books out of outrage.


Well since we can only learn a little of what they think we should, I think the stupid answer would be the correct one.

By the way, she's married to an Aspie. She says it somewhere in there when she's talking to one of the whiner women.



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02 Apr 2007, 2:27 am

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By the way, she's married to an Aspie. She says it somewhere in there when she's talking to one of the whiner women.


Ah, that explains it then. I thought her work might be based on her own personality conflicts with aspies, and not as an objective observer. Typical for a typical.


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02 Apr 2007, 3:25 am

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Peachy keen. Or not. In fact, totally not. I guess I can take solace in knowing Im not a part of the population explosion problem. :cry:

Just kidding. I have two beautiful daughters.

But meeting a woman for me has been harder than a clutzy aspie making the US gymnastics team. Its not that I dont have a social life. Im really handsome (no really..............whats so funny?) and girls pick me up and Ive never had a problem with that. But all those times where I fancied someone who didnt make advances, forget it. Lost cause. Stupid man now entering picture.

so ive given up with that one.

and I will never repeat some of the stupid things Ive said or done. I just wish I could forget them.


Why didn't the girls who pick you up light your fire? Wasn't there a one of them worth pursuing a relationship with? Or am I missing something?

What's the new approach to meeting people?

8)