Rampage killer Chris Harper-Mercer was an Aspie

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06 Oct 2015, 1:27 pm

All of these shooters seem to get diagnosed ASD... this might mean one thing, are we demons?.

how can we remove the 'demon' from us?



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06 Oct 2015, 1:31 pm

These are from the NY Times article.

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Her Yahoo profile had a user name of TweetyBird, accompanied by a cartoon image of a nurse. In many of her postings, she included her email address, which public records link to Ms. Harper.


There does seem to be a confirmed link Godzillawoman.

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Alexis Jefferson, who worked with Ms. Harper at a Southern California subacute care center around 2010, said the gunman’s mother sometimes confided the difficulties she had in raising her son, including that she had placed Mr. Harper-Mercer in a psychiatric hospital when he did not take his medication.

“She said that ‘my son is a real big problem of mine,’ ” Ms. Jefferson said in a telephone interview. “She said: ‘He has some psychological problems. Sometimes he takes his medication, sometimes he doesn’t. And that’s where the big problem is, when he doesn’t take his medication.’ ”


It seems highly likely that he had mental health issues in addition to AS.



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06 Oct 2015, 1:46 pm

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The mother keeps mentioning aspergers, does she think that is why the son shot people?

usually if someone says they have xyz disorder, I wouldn't question that they have it.
But with many people saying they have aspergers without diagnosis, I couldn't automatically believe that the mom does when she said she does.
It would be amusing if she had said that she and her son had both been "officially diagnosed with Asperger's." Then we would also know that she was a reader here at WP.


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06 Oct 2015, 2:04 pm

Chris Mercer and I have/had a lot in common - bespectacled, aspie, mixed race, immigrant, angry, LPN mother, absent father, etc. One big difference, though, is he actually liked his mother. She bought him guns and took him to the shooting range. I guess I should be grateful that mine was a crazy, religious, controlling, narcissistic miscreant that I got away from otherwise I might also had been a serial killer.



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06 Oct 2015, 3:49 pm

Looks like I am late to the party.

An article on cnn.com

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/06/us/oregon ... index.html

Also if you go directly to cnn.com, the word "Asperger's" shows up in the lead in to the article.

Uggh. I am not going to be a happy camper tonight. Self-doubt. Paranoia. Wondering why God did this to us.



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06 Oct 2015, 6:33 pm

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"what is mercer..." -- I believe you mean MRSA. (Mercer is my ex-husband and you don't want to know what HE looks like) This is Staph bacteria. The letters M-R-S-A stand for methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus.

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TweetyBird · 4 years ago


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https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20111004142140AAywAUR


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Your friend might try www.therapy.com for more information on animal assisted therapy. Your friend can also contact me at my e-address [email protected] if she'd like. I'm a nurse and I also have an Asperger's kid.
TweetyBird · 10 years ago


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I am a licensed, working nurse. If I can be of assistance, please let me know. My name is Laurel and I’m at [email protected]


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Asperger's syndrome is a high functioning form of autism. At last check, 10-12 in 10,000 will be diagnosed with some form of autism. And I'm very familiar with it. My son has Asperger's. He's no babbling idiot nor is his life worthless. He's very intelligent and is working on a career in filmmaking. My 18 years worth of experience with and knowledge about Asperger's syndrome is paying off.
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TweetyBird · 9 years ago


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I doubt that you have Asperger's. From what you've said, you don't fit the profile and I have 18 years experience with this disorder. However, I will email you.
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I'm a nurse.
TweetyBird · 8 years ago


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Now, every person is different and what is true about one autistic person may not be true about another but if it's any comfort to you, if your son's degree isn't too severe, he should improve over time. I was in your shoes and now my son's in college.
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I'm a nurse.
TweetyBird · 3 years ago


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https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120522133340AAfK1ZQ


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I have a son with Asperger's syndrome who was initially misdiagnosed with ADHD. For many years I went through what you are now going through. I can guide you through this and lend you the support you desperately need. You can contact me at my e-mail address anytime.
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TweetyBird · 8 years ago


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06 Oct 2015, 6:55 pm

tall-p wrote:
btbnnyr wrote:
The mother keeps mentioning aspergers, does she think that is why the son shot people?

usually if someone says they have xyz disorder, I wouldn't question that they have it.
But with many people saying they have aspergers without diagnosis, I couldn't automatically believe that the mom does when she said she does.
It would be amusing if she had said that she and her son had both been "officially diagnosed with Asperger's." Then we would also know that she was a reader here at WP.

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06 Oct 2015, 7:05 pm

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The fact he had Asperger's shouldn't have been mentioned in the news.


Where was that established as a fact?

Where and when was he assessed?

Who dx him?



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06 Oct 2015, 7:10 pm

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The article that states the mother has Aspergers...

http://time.com/4062209/oregon-shooter-mother-guns/

There is a quote from her stating she has Aspergers. Now whether she pulled that out of her ass because her kid was diagnosed, or it was truly diagnosed. I don't know.


UGH! The media drives me crazy!! They never provide sources. How do we know that TweetyBird is Ms. Harper? What are the sources for her claiming Aspergers for herself or her son? How did they know it was her? Did she use her own name or an anonymous handle? Were either of them officially diagnosed? Did they get screened for other issues like schizophrenia, antisocial personality disorder, or bipolar disorder? Gone are the days of verifying with two or three sources, who are NOT anonymous. Journalism, even for big outfits like the NY Times, has gone into the toilet. They can print a bunch of rumors and we'll never know any different.


What do you expect from Presstitutes who sell unsubstantiated rumor/hearsay as though it were truth?
Professional liars and BS artists nothing more.
f**k'm all.



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06 Oct 2015, 7:39 pm

The son must be diagnosed with something since he went to special school.
If those posts are the mother's, then he was diagnosed with aspergers as the posts say.
They don't mention any other diagnoses of the son.
Are the diagnoses relevant to the shooting?
Is the aspergers diagnosis relevant?
Can we reasonably say one way or another?
How would we know it is not relevant?
Or how would we know it is relevant?


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06 Oct 2015, 9:27 pm

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How did they know that the person on the online forum claiming to have an Asperger's kid was Ms. Harper?


Her email address was linked to the Yahoo account, that posted the messages. Anyway how many African American, gun fanatic, nurses with autistic sons do you thing there are? There may be a few others, but probably not a lot.


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06 Oct 2015, 9:39 pm

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Surprisingly I haven't seen a thread about this Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/autismkills

(but then again, it's probably been posted). This has probably also been posted :D



No one outside the US (like myself) can watch this link, just so you know.


That's OK. It's people in the US that need to see it.


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07 Oct 2015, 12:38 am

If it makes anyone feel better, I've been following this story pretty closely across the media spectrum, and no one is talking about autism, mostly they're just talking about guns. As an outspoken gun owning Aspie, I'm the most likely to suffer blow-back from this sort of thing, and if anything it's made me be more open about both my autism and my gun ownership, as my own one man counter-programming effort, but honestly I'm not that concerned on the autism front.


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07 Oct 2015, 12:47 am

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That's OK. It's people in the US that need to see it.


The Oz gun law changes did nothing insofar as murder with firearms is concerned (method substitution hasn't even kicked in). A similar number of people are murdered with firearms each year with the gradual down-slope/trend continuing on. More people have always been murdered with knives here (about 2:1).

There hasn't been as many massacres involving firearms; though, massacres with other weapons/tools have happened (which are often overlooked). Probably not enough of them in the first place to get an accurate picture, though. That's the one problem with using rare events as qualifiers, as you don't have enough data to use. With overall murders, you do.

You can look it all up yourself.

Anyone proclaiming Oz got it right doesn't know what they're talking about.

(Ironically, Martin Bryant has AS too.)



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07 Oct 2015, 2:27 am

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I wonder if the media wants people to turn against autistic people just like they do with Muslims when one of them does a bomb threat or does one.


Uh, no.



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07 Oct 2015, 3:14 am

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Introverts in general are treated as suspect in our society, with few exceptions. I believe there are several influences. One is the proliferation of conservative religious congregations, another is the polarization of mass politics & social views via mass media. ...


On what facts do you make these conslusions, specifically the "proliferation of conservative religious congregations..."

I'm not paricularly religious, but what makes you think that? I'm curious and not attacking in any way.