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Claradoon
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15 May 2016, 8:03 am

This_Space_Intentionally_Left_Blank wrote:

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Can science prove Mother Love?

Science doesn't prove the sky is blue. Science explains why the sky is blue. So you question is flawed but the answer is still yes.

My question is not flawed. I do not subscribe to whatever system you use to determine that.
Even so, can science explain mother love?

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15 May 2016, 9:34 am

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Science cannot dictate to me what to believe.

Science probably doesn't believe Mom came to sit by my bed when I had a concussion but I do, even though she passed so many years ago.

This proves my point about "belief." You either had a dream or a hallucination depending on the state your brain was in at the time. Any neuroscientist will tell you this. While the thought may be comforting it simply isn't true. I suspect however that when science tells you something that is comforting you "choose" to believe that.

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15 May 2016, 11:12 am

CKhermit wrote:

Claradoon wrote:

Science cannot dictate to me what to believe.
Science probably doesn't believe Mom came to sit by my bed when I had a concussion but I do, even though she passed so many years ago.

I really don't want to go on and on, but I don't believe neuroscientists either. I don't grab any highly educated person's belief as more reliable than my own. I do not seek the most comfortable truth. I seek the one that works.

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15 May 2016, 11:20 am

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15 May 2016, 11:25 am

Plenty of "evidence" exists for reincarnation if you bother to do some research.

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I think I might have been born with Aspergers because of doing something wrong in a past life so my current reincarnation is paying for it.

How-ever, reincarnation to "pay off" negative karmic-debts (via suffering), does not limit itself to the earth-life. You can still "suffer" even without a physical-body (proof : consider how you can still sense/feel/experience various "sensations" within your "dreams" even though absolutely nothing is affecting your physical-body... ).

Some Recommended Reading :
"You Cannot Die : The Incredible Findings of a Century of Research on Death" -Ian Currie
"30 Years Among the Dead" -Dr. Carl Wickland
The Testament of Truth -Terence Malaher

All you need to do is withdraw any and all support/complicity to causing others to suffer and you will find that your own suffering begins to lessen. For example, people who argue and scream at each other all day, all one of them needs to do is refrain from screaming back, and eventually all of the "screaming karma" will be transferred to the one doing the screaming, whilst the one remaining quiet slowly "pays off" that "burden" for their Book of Life Records to be brought back to account (equilibrium for all negative past deeds being "accounted" for).

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15 May 2016, 11:59 am

neptunekh wrote:

I think I might have been born with Aspergers because of doing something wrong in a past life so my current reincarnation is paying for it.

I don't understand.... It seems that there would need to be evidence of a higher power that is specifically ordaining the laws of reincarnation. Where is the evidence that you find, that supports this possibility?

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15 May 2016, 12:09 pm

zzaspergerzz wrote:

neptunekh wrote:

I think I might have been born with Aspergers because of doing something wrong in a past life so my current reincarnation is paying for it.

Expounding upon that. "Evidence" consists of predictive, testable, replicative, verifiable, data achieved through that process. It is not " AN INDIVIDUALS TESTIMONY"

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15 May 2016, 1:11 pm

CKhermit wrote:

zzaspergerzz wrote:

neptunekh wrote:

I think I might have been born with Aspergers because of doing something wrong in a past life so my current reincarnation is paying for it.

Expounding upon that. "Evidence" consists of predictive, testable, replicative, verifiable, data achieved through that process. It is not " AN INDIVIDUALS TESTIMONY"

You've hit the nail on the head!
"predictive, testable, replicative, verifiable, data"
can be helpful but is not the ultimate measure of truth.
You've described consensus reality, I think?

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15 May 2016, 1:25 pm

Claradoon wrote:

CKhermit wrote:

Claradoon wrote:

Science cannot dictate to me what to believe.
Science probably doesn't believe Mom came to sit by my bed when I had a concussion but I do, even though she passed so many years ago.

This shows you don't understand or accept science

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15 May 2016, 1:26 pm

I believe that its all a load of bollocks, when you die you go six feet under and stay there.

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15 May 2016, 1:42 pm

CKhermit wrote:

Claradoon wrote:

Science cannot dictate to me what to believe.

Science probably doesn't believe Mom came to sit by my bed when I had a concussion but I do, even though she passed so many years ago.

But the neuroscientist still couldn't prove that either, except if at exactly that very time he would have measured the brain waves or something.

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15 May 2016, 2:03 pm

Schlumpfikus wrote:

But the neuroscientist still couldn't prove that either, except if at exactly that very time he would have measured the brain waves or something.

Well you clearly don't understand science fully either. Neuroscientists have done the experiments to show what happens. That's how they explain it. There is no need to measure every person who has an "experience" of what the individual believes to be supernatural.

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15 May 2016, 2:59 pm

CKhermit wrote:

Schlumpfikus wrote:

But the neuroscientist still couldn't prove that either, except if at exactly that very time he would have measured the brain waves or something.

Yes, I'm not a scientist, I've just always thought you mustn't change the conditions surrouding the experiment as a scientist, so who says it can't be the case that some people are indeed hallucinating or dreaming and still some are not?
I mean, after all we all know that dreams and hallucinations exist.

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15 May 2016, 6:05 pm

Mustangboss429 wrote:

I believe that its all a load of bollocks, when you die you go six feet under and stay there.

Until the zombie apocalypse, anyway. I don't think that's reincarnation though, more just...reanimation. And you are *always* craving Maghaz dishes...

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15 May 2016, 6:11 pm

<--- Hopes when he dies he comes back as a sexy motherf*cker. Forced virginity sucks.

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15 May 2016, 7:04 pm

when we die all our memories and our consciousness die with us.
But what if the universe is conscious.
Why would small animals on earth possess the ability to be aware of the universe if the universe itself is not conscious or aware. We're made of the stuff of the universe.

What exists in the microcosm also exists in the macrocosm.
when we lose our individual consciousness we may become part of a larger consciousness.
Maybe that's what heaven is.

Or maybe our consciousness is continued in another life.
Maybe when we die, we open our eyes in another body, on another planet in another solar system, or on earth.

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