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23 Jul 2022, 9:18 am

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I’m a Gemini, too, not that it actually means anything.


This is so funny. Every Gemini I've ever met has been hyperactive, hates routine, always changing. I tend to keep away from them if I can. Even a friend of mine who thinks she may be autistic, is a Gemini and hyper sociable and friendly, she has so many friends and social events all the time.


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23 Jul 2022, 9:20 am

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It's funny, all the Geminis I've ever met are more like ADHD. They are all very changeable, unreliable, highly sociable, often very self-centred. I know so many Geminis like that it has become a sign I avoid like the plague. I'm not sure what happens to babies born under Gemini but they are all the same, especially the June ones.


Is this satire?

I’m a Gemini and am the opposite of those traits. I do have ADD, though.

Astrology is built on anecdotal evidence and confirmation bias.

It has been debunked over and over again and is not supported by any valid evidence.



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23 Jul 2022, 9:23 am

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KitLily wrote:
It's funny, all the Geminis I've ever met are more like ADHD. They are all very changeable, unreliable, highly sociable, often very self-centred. I know so many Geminis like that it has become a sign I avoid like the plague. I'm not sure what happens to babies born under Gemini but they are all the same, especially the June ones.


Is this satire?

I’m a Gemini and am the opposite of those traits. I do have ADD, though.

Astrology is built on anecdotal evidence with, perhaps, some confirmation bias as well.

It has been debunked over and over again.


Nope. It's just whenever I've met people who are hyperactive, unpredictable, constantly changing...it always turns out they are Geminis! It is quite uncanny how it happens. There is no other star sign I can immediately spot :lol:


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23 Jul 2022, 9:25 am

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KitLily wrote:
It's funny, all the Geminis I've ever met are more like ADHD. They are all very changeable, unreliable, highly sociable, often very self-centred. I know so many Geminis like that it has become a sign I avoid like the plague. I'm not sure what happens to babies born under Gemini but they are all the same, especially the June ones.


Is this satire?

I’m a Gemini and am the opposite of those traits. I do have ADD, though.

Astrology is built on anecdotal evidence with, perhaps, some confirmation bias as well.

It has been debunked over and over again.


Nope. It's just whenever I've met people who are hyperactive, unpredictable, constantly changing...it always turns out they are Geminis! It is quite uncanny how it happens. There is no other star sign I can immediately spot :lol:


Coincidences do happen.

You’ve just now met a couple of Geminis who don’t share those traits.



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23 Jul 2022, 9:30 am

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Coincidences do happen.

You’ve just now met a couple of Geminis who don’t share those traits.


I guess I have! I'm still very wary of the ones I meet in real life though 8O


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23 Jul 2022, 9:34 am

KitLily wrote:
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Coincidences do happen.

You’ve just now met a couple of Geminis who don’t share those traits.


I guess I have! I'm still very wary of the ones I meet in real life though 8O


Astrology is not supported by facts, evidence, research, or science.

I’m equally wary of people of every “sign.”



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23 Jul 2022, 10:39 am

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KitLily wrote:
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Coincidences do happen.

You’ve just now met a couple of Geminis who don’t share those traits.


I guess I have! I'm still very wary of the ones I meet in real life though 8O


Astrology is not supported by facts, evidence, research, or science.

I’m equally wary of people of every “sign.”


I'm not sure what to say tbh. It's just a thing I noticed, could be true, could not be true. I observe things, and move on to the next thing :D


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23 Jul 2022, 5:24 pm

The OP has posted 1711 words so far in this thread alone, and yet claims he has neither the time nor the patience to provide support for his alleged "research" when it takes less than a minute to post a single link to supporting data.

Five links . . . five minutes, tops.

I, for one, not only doubt the existence of any supporting evidence, but the existence of any alleged "research", as well.

However, I am sincerely open to be proven wrong on both counts.



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23 Jul 2022, 6:45 pm

Wow, how did you count all the words? :lol:


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23 Jul 2022, 6:52 pm

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Wow, how did you count all the words?
Simple. I copy-pasted all of his posts into an Open Office text document, put a space after every period, changed all double spaces to single spaces, the replaced every space with a space. The Find-Replace function always returns the number of replacements, as well.

It is how I perform word counts on articles I write.



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23 Jul 2022, 7:14 pm

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If only it's possible to actually switch birth date without the year with my own NT sister -- she'd enjoy what I have but ahh... :lol:


I don't actually think star sign has any bearing on autism whatsoever, tbh. I'm a Scorpio for example. My daughter is an Aquarius. Another I know is Cancer, another is Libra.

Yes, it doesn't.

Sociability and personality doesn't affect severity or support levels. It just affects that -- being sociability.
I met plenty of severe and high support autistics who are more sociable and outgoing than me.

It just affects behaviors that can be read as severity (how worry-inducing because of social participation) and support levels (how convenient and needy).



I just happened to hate worrying people and being an inconvenience.
And I can afford enough to push myself to make it so. If I hadn't, I might've killed myself a long time ago.

Heck, even I have plenty of positive socialization in childhood -- still autistic. Still asocial. Still prefer my internal world over the external.
My 'severity' doesn't get better. My reactions to it does.

My language skills more so -- verbal learning and thinking are still the same unnatural internally compensating resource-draining route since I was in elementary.
It gets worse with age, despite practice (my job this pandemic basically being a secretary)


It must be how masking and faking being an NT feels like.
Except mine isn't about illusions of passing as socially appropriate -- more like an illusion of having the ability to verbally express and comprehend more than I could.


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23 Jul 2022, 8:50 pm

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However, I am sincerely open to be proven wrong on both counts.[/color]


I would like to see this supposed evidence as well. (I’m expecting to wait a long time.)

Rational people are willing to change their disbelief to belief if they are presented with enough adequate evidence to make the change justified.

It’s backwards to believe in a new scientific claim before being presented with the evidence. This is how conspiracies theories start.



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23 Jul 2022, 9:06 pm

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It’s backwards to believe in a new scientific claim before being presented with the evidence. This is how conspiracies theories start.
It is also how cults are founded, and how their leaders all end up exposed and disgraced by their own internal hubris mutating into narcissism and paranoia. Take Donald Trump, for example.



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23 Jul 2022, 9:30 pm

Fnord wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
It’s backwards to believe in a new scientific claim before being presented with the evidence. This is how conspiracies theories start.
It is also how cults are founded, and how their leaders all end up exposed and disgraced by their own internal hubris mutating into narcissism and paranoia. Take Donald Trump, for example.


Ideal cult followers require no evidence. Appealing to their superstitious beliefs is enough. That’s how my cult worked. They discouraged education and hated getting educated people at the door.

Evidence should speak for itself and require no special insight (or blank canvas.)



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23 Jul 2022, 10:05 pm

Just cut, then paste all that he’s written onto a Word document. Microsoft Word automatically counts the words.



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24 Jul 2022, 4:27 am

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Heck, even I have plenty of positive socialization in childhood -- still autistic. Still asocial. Still prefer my internal world over the external.


Yes me too! My parents were VERY sociable. We had lots of parties, holidays, day trips. LOTS of socialisation practice. Looking back, I was well loved. I was 'that quirky girl' and just accepted for who I was.

As I got older though, people weren't so forgiving or accepting. I became 'that weird woman' and ostracised.

And so it has continued for the rest of my life. Especially as everyone is too busy socialising online to be bothered getting to know 'that weird woman'.

I've just accepted it now. I am Rapunzel, trapped in her tower, watching the world go by. :shrug:


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