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17 Dec 2008, 6:27 am

Suppose you're right, but a magazine really needs to get noticed if you want it to sell, and those pages were from a 16-page dummy. If published, the actual number of pages would be between 64 and 72, so the news/letters pages would be less clustered


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17 Dec 2008, 6:46 am

Fair point, but it can be noticed without being so blinding. Certain color combinations are easier on the eyes than others, yet still eye-grabbing. Also, chances are that it would be unlikely to get a magazine published on shelves that fast... It would more likely rely on a subscription service online and via ads in other mags, at least to get it off the ground. Therefore, having an eye-catching cover is less important than having an interesting name/logo and a good mission statement.


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18 Dec 2008, 6:10 am

hiya

i've worked on a more subtle masthead. and will put it on my blog soon

as for self-publishing, we could stick it on lulu.com for free, and sell it electronically at first

my bi-polar friend reckons that all neurodiverse people have some form of epilepsy, so maybe we could bear that in mind for a future magazine

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18 Dec 2008, 8:07 am

re: Internet Explorer - Microsoft is rushing through a patch to fix the security issues. Mozilla Firefox is a better and more reliable and functional browser anyway, in my opinion, as well as being more secure.

Starting out with electronic copies makes sense. We'd need to spread the word and see what kind of interest level a publication like this would have. We also would need to decide what kind of articles we're willing to publish. Theoretical, subjective, scientific, special interest, communicative, informative, promotional etc etc... and how we verify content. If we want the emphasis to be on people with ASDs writing the majority of articles, we need to make sure that it's clear that we're not a scientific paper and that the material - particularly theoretical/speculative pieces - are not written by professionals.

In other words, we need to be careful that we don't publish any content that makes claims or states 'facts' without proper sourcing/verification. It could come back to bite us in the butt. But at the same time, we want our contributers to be able to speak freely and candidly about their ideas and theories. We just have to be sure that we're clear on what's fact and what's speculative/suggestion.


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18 Dec 2008, 9:31 am

Sounds a great idea.
Id contribute in what way i can.



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18 Dec 2008, 10:08 am

Did you guys happen to check out the link to Irked Magazine I provided and if so..what did you think about it ? Donna Williams is a major contributor and a well known author and this was the first time I had ever even heard of the magazine . It is not exclusive AS but has much information I found interesting, especially loved the book reviews but haven't spent a lot of time on the site myself . (I've got some book binding dead-lines breathing down my back..so time is limited but,) I highly recommend checking it out to make sure that your magazine is not being "redundant" . It does seem to be missing art and hobbies, one of my aspie interests . Also to mention...when I was first considering this idea I did a lot of reading of aspie on-line blogs and there are a ton of great aspie writers out there. If they don't come to you, you can always target them specifically and ask to include some of their current writing or write a specific topic article .

Still wishing you luck and keep us informed .


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18 Dec 2008, 3:28 pm

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re: Internet Explorer - Microsoft is rushing through a patch to fix the security issues. Mozilla Firefox is a better and more reliable and functional browser anyway, in my opinion, as well as being more secure.

Starting out with electronic copies makes sense. We'd need to spread the word and see what kind of interest level a publication like this would have. We also would need to decide what kind of articles we're willing to publish. Theoretical, subjective, scientific, special interest, communicative, informative, promotional etc etc... and how we verify content. If we want the emphasis to be on people with ASDs writing the majority of articles, we need to make sure that it's clear that we're not a scientific paper and that the material - particularly theoretical/speculative pieces - are not written by professionals.

In other words, we need to be careful that we don't publish any content that makes claims or states 'facts' without proper sourcing/verification. It could come back to bite us in the butt. But at the same time, we want our contributers to be able to speak freely and candidly about their ideas and theories. We just have to be sure that we're clear on what's fact and what's speculative/suggestion.


The whole point of my idea is to counter the professionals like Simon Baron-Cohen and Tony Attwood and give ourselves our own voice. If published, hopefully the entire staff will be on the spectrum, hence the byline 'by autistics, for autistics'. If an article's an opinion piece, then it will be marked as one. I did a Journalism degree, and learnt how not to get sued, as well as learning that the University of Lincoln is shite.

Where abouts do you live btw?


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18 Dec 2008, 4:23 pm

krex - yes I checked the Irked magazine - very interesting! But I don't think it negates our pitch.

hairmonster85 - I'm currently in Weston-super-Mare, but I'm usually in Bournemouth (at Uni).


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18 Dec 2008, 5:38 pm

hairmonster85 wrote:
The whole point of my idea is to counter the professionals like Simon Baron-Cohen and Tony Attwood and give ourselves our own voice. If published, hopefully the entire staff will be on the spectrum, hence the byline 'by autistics, for autistics'. If an article's an opinion piece, then it will be marked as one. I did a Journalism degree, and learnt how not to get sued, as well as learning that the University of Lincoln is shite.


Other than libel, what do you mean by learning how not to get sued ?

Also about the views of SBC, do you think he is hostile to the Aspies & Autists ? If I was you I would never allow Maxine Aston in 1 million years to express her views via a magazine run by the aspies & autists but I think that you could print an odd interview with some of the more reasonable academics working on the subject of autism and aspergers.


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18 Dec 2008, 6:17 pm

I have always been what many call a militant Aspie but I learned long ago that you have to have ammunition to fight a war. Tossing stones doesn't get the job done as many here probably know from experience. The concept behind your project is excellent but you have to have research to back up any assertions you make otherwise it's just another 'wacko' newsletter in the eyes of the general public.


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18 Dec 2008, 8:09 pm

Sounds fantastic. I feel like someone like me is rarely heard or understood. I am considered mild to moderate Aspie, but may appear NT.

I would like to stick articles and stories under the nose of some of my family and say "see this is what it is like and yes it is real". Not only my family, but some very ignorant pyschologists and other professionals I am aquainted with.

And I would like to hope if my daughter turns out to be mild to moderate that she has more options, support and treatment then I ever did growing up. I went through 3 councilors and still ended up diagnosing myself at 40. There is much ignorance out there and it is time we Aspies say enough and EDUCATE society. Besides every other group out there does :idea:



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18 Dec 2008, 8:17 pm

Anything taken out of context seems strange, not Autism, not the Introvert end, but all humans as seen and reported by Anthropoligists.

To avoid us vs them, take it all on, the human problem.



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18 Dec 2008, 8:20 pm

The human problem is not politically correct.


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18 Dec 2008, 8:33 pm

Sorry, "The Human Problem, it's Cause and Cure."



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18 Dec 2008, 8:45 pm

That's better.


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19 Dec 2008, 2:42 am

So we have an interest in creating this publication. But interest isn't enough. What is the first physical step?


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