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02 Nov 2007, 3:12 am

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bitten by dogs... what an odd question and why would that have anything to do with things such as asperber's syndrome?


We present different physical reactions/mannerisms than "normal" people; however, in my experience, dogs have always "liked" me at first sight.

I think I appear quite non-confrontational in my demeanor; someone else with Asperger's may behave in a way that is threatening to dogs, i.e., throwing their arms around and walking with an "odd" gait. I'm quite calm, even and smooth in most of my movements; "controlled".



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02 Nov 2007, 3:28 am

It seemed strange, because dogs have always liked me quite a lot , I would spend more time with dogs then most people. I was bitten once by my aunts dog when it had been hit by a car and I tried to move it from the street after finding it. It was ok after its leg healed.



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02 Nov 2007, 7:52 am

Merle,

Here is the show I meant:

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/presents/index.autism.world.html

It is about a different woman. However, the information you posted was also interesting.


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02 Nov 2007, 10:16 am

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Merle,

Here is the show I meant:

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/presents/index.autism.world.html

It is about a different woman. However, the information you posted was also interesting.


YES! this is the one I checked out from the library! Thank you for finding it. I thought her perceived "arrogance' at having to finish the long answer in class was sooo like me! I just wanted to smack the prof (sorry, prof)for talking to her 'assistant' as if she wasn't there. I had never realized that my passion (and respect) for the information I was trying to convey is my impetus for formally finishing out information to the nth degree was viewed as being humorous and an opportunity to be patronizing.

When she schedules time to 'play' with the water I can't help but admiring her obvious non need to conform to social expectations.

I suppose that is what I admired most about "Rain-Man," too. I was both physically and emotionally uncomfortable when he refused outright to board the airplane. He sensed so well what he would or would not do and was true and loyal to his own needs. The luxury of being allowed to 'act out' and 'act up' made me both admire and be intensely jealous of all of these people we are discussing.

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02 Nov 2007, 11:53 am

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When she schedules time to 'play' with the water I can't help but admiring her obvious non need to conform to social expectations.


Although she was kind of upset over how she appeared to others (as "mentally ret*d"). In that one scene, she was speaking to a physician, who told her there was nothing she could do about her behavior.


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02 Nov 2007, 1:18 pm

Sounds like dogs like a lot of us :)

I wonder if there's anything to that? I have a feeling they may be able to pick up who I really am...



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02 Nov 2007, 5:28 pm

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When she schedules time to 'play' with the water I can't help but admiring her obvious non need to conform to social expectations.


Although she was kind of upset over how she appeared to others (as "mentally ret*d"). In that one scene, she was speaking to a physician, who told her there was nothing she could do about her behavior.


you know. . there is a line from Shaffer's "Amedeus" when Salieri says "why did God give me the desire to compose such music but make me mute to do so?" I understand her frustration not only with her struggle for the casual onlooker but for the doctor who states with such conviction that she 'cannot' ultimately control her behaviour.

If we could not modify our behaviors why would cognative therapy work?

Merle



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02 Nov 2007, 5:34 pm

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If we could not modify our behaviors why would cognative therapy work?


Hi, Merle,

I remember debating that subject with a colleage of mine (years ago), when the psychodynamic model still predominated. He could not understand why I found cognitive-behavioral models to be more cogent.


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02 Nov 2007, 6:24 pm

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sinsboldly wrote:
If we could not modify our behaviors why would cognative therapy work?


Hi, Merle,

I remember debating that subject with a colleage of mine (years ago), when the psychodynamic model still predominated. He could not understand why I found cognitive-behavioral models to be more cogent.


maybe because you were on the inside looking out?


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02 Nov 2007, 6:38 pm

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maybe because you were on the inside looking out?


Merle,

The other way around. He is an educational psychologist (a professor at Valdosta University in Georgia), and I was a sociology professor at another college in Georgia. It was really his field, but I am a dabbler.


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02 Nov 2007, 7:47 pm

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sinsboldly wrote:
maybe because you were on the inside looking out?


Merle,

The other way around. He is an educational psychologist (a professor at Valdosta University in Georgia), and I was a sociology professor at another college in Georgia. It was really his field, but I am a dabbler.


so you don't identify with being AS?

Merle



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02 Nov 2007, 7:55 pm

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so you don't identify with being AS?


Yes. At this point, there are two major social constructions in my life: nominalist approaches to sociology and Asperger's syndrome.

Being diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome has transformed my life (with no exaggeration).

"It is, in my view, largely irrelevant that the countless perpetrators were ignorant concerning my high-functioning autism. I myself had a clouded and distorted view of the issues I faced. Indeed, an existential haze surrounded me until I was 51 year old. Clarity was then introduced only through the diagnosis. A fog light had been switched on, and the brume dissipated."

The full article (to this point) is here:

http://www.geocities.com/thenominalist/


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04 Nov 2007, 12:26 am

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From 23 to 30 depending on certain assumptions. I might as well have ADD and not Asperger since people with ADD score in that range too.


The results page just reports averages. However, if your score approaches the average of those in the pilot study with a diagnosed condition (like AS, ADHD, or anything else), it is not an indication that you are likely to have that condition. Self-texts can't diagnose.


I was beforehand considering ADD as a more suitable explanation for my characteristics than Asperger's syndrome; since the test shows that people with ADD score in my range, it at least doesn't tilt the balance in favour of the AS hypothesis.



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04 Nov 2007, 3:52 am

I only scored 21, yet 3 professionals have said diagnosed me with AS.



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04 Nov 2007, 7:17 am

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I was beforehand considering ADD as a more suitable explanation for my characteristics than Asperger's syndrome; since the test shows that people with ADD score in my range, it at least doesn't tilt the balance in favour of the AS hypothesis.


Statistically, one can not draw those kinds of conclusions from a questionaire.


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05 Nov 2007, 12:01 pm

I scored 26.