Page 7 of 8 [ 121 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 4, 5, 6, 7, 8  Next

Irisrises
Toucan
Toucan

User avatar

Joined: 9 Oct 2007
Gender: Female
Posts: 290

01 May 2008, 11:33 am

I started cooking in my late twenties, I'm getting good now. Before I would eat what I'd been taught and what was available.

Daniel, could you read a cookbook for children and follow the instructions?



Bart21
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 28 Mar 2006
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Posts: 558

01 May 2008, 12:10 pm

Danielismyname wrote:
2ukenkerl wrote:
They are like night and day. Eating is required to survive and simple and obvious.


This isn't to do with eating, this is to do with preparing.

Not at all. One with such a severe impairment in social interaction that they cannot ask for food is putting their life in jeopardy if they are young, if they're old, they may just run into situations with law enforcement that are life threatening.

I can eat, I just cannot prepare anything that requires more than a few steps. Some people with ASDs can make eye contact, albeit it it'll be uncomfortable, others will never look at someone at all; this example transposes over everything with ASDs.

There's autistic individuals out there who cannot prepare anything due to autism, there's some who can get by with basic stuff, and there's some who find it difficult, but they can do most things.

Self-helps skills and social impairment are a part of ASDs. Some have both, others only the latter.

What of the autistic individuals that run into traffic without "care"? They're putting their life in danger, and there's adults with AS who have a high level of intelligence who do such.


Maybe you should follow some sort of cooking classes.
Getting used to the routine of cooking may make it alot less stressfull.
This is extremely important for your future.
If you don't want to end up living your whole life on a group home for people who can't take care of themselves.
Those aren't nice places to grow up/live in.
Here in the Netherlands those group homes are packed with people with autism, most of them have pdd-nos.



Pithlet
Velociraptor
Velociraptor

User avatar

Joined: 19 Jan 2008
Age: 42
Gender: Female
Posts: 436

01 May 2008, 1:27 pm

I don't cook elaborate meals. If I have to make my own food, it's usually something simple. Frozen burrito, sandwhich, scrambled eggs, canned soup, microwaved leftovers are all ok. I think I could make a cooked meal if someone walked me through the steps and made me do all the tasks, but it would only become something I could do on my own if it became a regular routine. Since it's not, I often end up buying already prepared food like Taco Bell. I know that get's expensive, but that's become a conveinient routine that's very hard to break.



Cameo
Velociraptor
Velociraptor

User avatar

Joined: 3 Sep 2007
Age: 39
Gender: Female
Posts: 477
Location: SE Wisconsin

01 May 2008, 6:30 pm

I can cook, as long as I don't have to watch too many things at once. I like stir-fry and one-pot meals because it all goes together; if I tried to make, for example, Thanksgiving dinner I would be hopeless. How the hell do people keep track of all that stuff at once?!? 8O



TheRani
Pileated woodpecker
Pileated woodpecker

User avatar

Joined: 12 Dec 2007
Age: 52
Gender: Female
Posts: 184
Location: Louisiana

01 May 2008, 7:13 pm

It's not too hard for me to follow the directions on a box, or a simple recipe, as long as I don't get interrupted at all. If I get interrupted while cooking, I Will mess it up. Also, the directions have to be very specific. Don't tell me stuff like "al dente" or "until golden brown". Tell me specifically how many minutes to cook it, and on what temperature setting, and I'll do it right. Sandwiches are pretty easy to make, as long as I am not expected to grill the sandwich. Anything I fry in a frying pan has a high likelihood of ending up on fire.


_________________
Ichigo: "Dude.. your sister is Scary."


Fogman
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Jun 2005
Age: 58
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,986
Location: Frå Nord Dakota til Vermont

01 May 2008, 7:31 pm

I am quite good at cooking, and have cooked in some fairly nice restaurants however, it's a job that I absolutely loathe.


_________________
When There's No There to get to, I'm so There!


LostInSpace
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 16 Apr 2007
Age: 40
Gender: Female
Posts: 2,617
Location: Dixie

01 May 2008, 7:42 pm

Danielismyname, you can probably learn to make a sandwich. I'm interning in a school for kids with autism, and self-help skills are a major part of the curriculum, especially as the kids get older. Even the "most autistic" (not a very good term but I hope you get the gist) can eventually learn some tasks of daily living.

It would probably be a good skill to learn, because then not only could you make yourself a sandwich when no one else is around, but learning self-help skills would mean that you are less dependent on your parents to take care of you (they won't be around forever, as I'm sure you realize). Plus, learning self-help skills like this put you more in control of your life.

Maybe someone could make up a list of instructions (whether text, pictures or both) to hang up in the kitchen, and help you practice this task. Remember, you *can* learn this if you are given the right support.



Danielismyname
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 Apr 2007
Age: 43
Gender: Male
Posts: 8,565

01 May 2008, 8:09 pm

I'm sure I could attempt to build a routine; it's the only way I could ever do such, but my inability to make a sandwich isn't high on my list of things I need to do to survive if I'm by myself (I see the symbolism of such however).

Talking to people with expressive speech and more in-depth receptive, rather than basic receptive that doesn't reveal anything, is what I'm currently working on (sign language is out as I cannot learn such).



LostInSpace
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 16 Apr 2007
Age: 40
Gender: Female
Posts: 2,617
Location: Dixie

01 May 2008, 8:17 pm

Danielismyname wrote:
Talking to people with expressive speech and more in-depth receptive, rather than basic receptive that doesn't reveal anything, is what I'm currently working on (sign language is out as I cannot learn such).


Since you seem to be pretty eloquent when typing, why not try an AAC system? (ex. like what Amanda Baggs has). AAC systems can be really effective for some people with autism. Some phrases (especially courtesy phrases or other ones you use frequently) can be pre-programmed in for quick access. The downside is that they are fairly expensive, and since you do speak, it might be difficult to get funding for one.

Are you in speech therapy by the way? A speech therapist can help you with social conversation, as well as practicing both sending and receiving nonverbal signals. Learning conversational "scripts" also might be helpful, especially for situations in stores and other public places, or when meeting new people.



RainSong
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 1 May 2006
Age: 34
Gender: Female
Posts: 4,306
Location: Ohio

01 May 2008, 8:53 pm

NeantHumain wrote:
To me, this seems more like learned helplessness or an unwillingness even to try.


If you don't understand something, don't talk about it. It's not flattering.


_________________
"Nothing worth having is easy."

Three years!


Danielismyname
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 Apr 2007
Age: 43
Gender: Male
Posts: 8,565

01 May 2008, 9:02 pm

LostInSpace,

Pen and paper works, though only if I write it out before I approach people; I lose my ability to put thoughts to communication when I'm around people, whether written, typed or verbally.

No. I doubt it'd do much more for me now, as I'm ok with conversing to a professional one on one over an interest (see: me), but no matter how well I know "socializing" (I know the dynamics of interacting to people, just as I know how a sandwich is made, how a bird flies, how to dial a phone), it doesn't help me put thoughts to words when I'm around people, or initiate a conversation.

Incidentally, speech therapy was the best treatment I ever had; I liked the lady who did such. My verbal ability is due to her, as well as my ability to talk in a one on one setting with a professional.



NeantHumain
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 24 Jun 2004
Age: 45
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,837
Location: St. Louis, Missouri

02 May 2008, 9:23 pm

RainSong wrote:
NeantHumain wrote:
To me, this seems more like learned helplessness or an unwillingness even to try.


If you don't understand something, don't talk about it. It's not flattering.

I disagree completely. You only learn by asking questions and challenging the facts presented to you. You don't learn anything by passively saying to yourself, "I don't know anything about this, so why bother."



NeantHumain
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 24 Jun 2004
Age: 45
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,837
Location: St. Louis, Missouri

02 May 2008, 9:26 pm

Danielismyname wrote:
I'm sure I could attempt to build a routine; it's the only way I could ever do such, but my inability to make a sandwich isn't high on my list of things I need to do to survive if I'm by myself (I see the symbolism of such however).

Talking to people with expressive speech and more in-depth receptive, rather than basic receptive that doesn't reveal anything, is what I'm currently working on (sign language is out as I cannot learn such).

I too am more eloquent with the written word than the spoken one; it's important to just trod on rather than worry about how you sound. At least to me, the information communicated is more important than polish (I know people have told me bluntly otherwise for, say, work purposes).



demoluca
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 16 Nov 2007
Gender: Female
Posts: 565

02 May 2008, 9:27 pm

NeantHumain wrote:
RainSong wrote:
NeantHumain wrote:
To me, this seems more like learned helplessness or an unwillingness even to try.


If you don't understand something, don't talk about it. It's not flattering.

I disagree completely. You only learn by asking questions and challenging the facts presented to you. You don't learn anything by passively saying to yourself, "I don't know anything about this, so why bother."


Asking questions is good.However, formulating opinions when you know nothing is bad.You don't know how learned or un-learned it is, so you should of asked about it instead of saying what you said.


_________________
.?´¸.?*¨) ¸.?*¨)
(¸.?´ (¸.?´ .?´ ¸¸.?¨¯`?.


NeantHumain
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 24 Jun 2004
Age: 45
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,837
Location: St. Louis, Missouri

02 May 2008, 9:32 pm

demoluca wrote:
NeantHumain wrote:
RainSong wrote:
NeantHumain wrote:
To me, this seems more like learned helplessness or an unwillingness even to try.


If you don't understand something, don't talk about it. It's not flattering.

I disagree completely. You only learn by asking questions and challenging the facts presented to you. You don't learn anything by passively saying to yourself, "I don't know anything about this, so why bother."


Asking questions is good.However, formulating opinions when you know nothing is bad.You don't know how learned or un-learned it is, so you should of asked about it instead of saying what you said.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who has heard about learned helplessness in a variety of disabilities and diseases. Basically, people with certain developmental or psychological disabilities are helped out so much from an early age that they come to depend on others for almost all of their need fulfillment as their norm. They may have much more potential despite their disability.



demoluca
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 16 Nov 2007
Gender: Female
Posts: 565

02 May 2008, 9:38 pm

NeantHumain wrote:
demoluca wrote:
NeantHumain wrote:
RainSong wrote:
NeantHumain wrote:
To me, this seems more like learned helplessness or an unwillingness even to try.


If you don't understand something, don't talk about it. It's not flattering.

I disagree completely. You only learn by asking questions and challenging the facts presented to you. You don't learn anything by passively saying to yourself, "I don't know anything about this, so why bother."


Asking questions is good.However, formulating opinions when you know nothing is bad.You don't know how learned or un-learned it is, so you should of asked about it instead of saying what you said.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who has heard about learned helplessness in a variety of disabilities and diseases. Basically, people with certain developmental or psychological disabilities are helped out so much from an early age that they come to depend on others for almost all of their need fulfillment as their norm. They may have much more potential despite their disability.



And how do you know for sure it's learned helplessness? have you ever seen this person who we are talking about?


_________________
.?´¸.?*¨) ¸.?*¨)
(¸.?´ (¸.?´ .?´ ¸¸.?¨¯`?.