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13 Aug 2008, 2:00 pm

You can understand and not care.
You can care and not understand.

Whether you care or not,
You can use your understanding to hurt.
You can use your understanding to help.

Whether you understand or not,
You can care enough to try to help, or
You can hate and try to hurt.

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Nikky91
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13 Aug 2008, 3:21 pm

I got a score of 28

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13 Aug 2008, 6:03 pm

Tahitiii wrote:

So outwardly, as long as you're not harming.. then its ok to not personally care? Just listening to someone vent, and telling them that you've been there yourself.. can be enough?

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13 Aug 2008, 6:29 pm

Tahitiii wrote:

Sometimes I don't care, but I care enough to pretend that I care. :lol:

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13 Aug 2008, 7:03 pm

Dragonfly_Dreams wrote:

So outwardly, as long as you're not harming.. then its ok to not personally care? Just listening to someone vent, and telling them that you've been there yourself.. can be enough?

I wasn’t thinking of it that way. But now that you mention it, yes, I would think that useful information would be helpful whether you care about the individual or not. The truth is what it is. I’m starving for truth right now, and I’ll take it any way I can get it. Caring is good, too. That would make it even better.

Where I was going before was that I think that the typical NT needs rules like “love your neighbor” to help him figure out the difference between right and wrong. Too bad it doesn’t work. Christianity would be a nice idea – too bad it never caught on.
Personally, I don’t need to love my neighbor to figure out right from wrong. My logic is not so self-serving. But don’t tell anyone I said that. They’ll try to haul me away.

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13 Aug 2008, 8:57 pm

Jael wrote:

Sometimes I don't care, but I care enough to pretend that I care. :lol:

Yep, caring that about lack of caring to the point of caring. Awesome.

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14 Aug 2008, 8:26 pm

alba wrote:

I scored 23.

I feel I am a very empathic person so the test is flawed.

The test correlates social skills with empathy which is faulty reasoning when it comes to aspies.

But the test is pretty accurate on measuring my social skills I think.

Your logic is flawed. Would you like to rephrase that?

Note, I do not necessarily disagree with you, but that logic make me shudder.

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14 Aug 2008, 9:21 pm

I understand what Alba said and I can’t explain it any better.
I tried with the apples & oranges thing.
It measures superficial social skills, not empathy.

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15 Aug 2008, 3:28 am

22. I'm a little surprised. I thought my empathy was very good for a person with Aspergers. I suppose I'm still getting used to the whole idea of having AS.

Tahitii has a point though, half of it measured social skills rather than empathy. Or perhaps I don't understand the difference...

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15 Aug 2008, 3:40 am

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15 Aug 2008, 3:47 am

Kajjie wrote:

Tahitii has a point though, half of it measured social skills rather than empathy. Or perhaps I don't understand the difference...

i think because when you instinctively "get" social skills, you are using empathy to read the other person to know what to do in the social situation. so less empathy means less social cue clues received.

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15 Aug 2008, 4:27 am

Ishmael wrote:

Quote:

thats simply not true, it is as necessary now as it ever was as we all still need to work togetherfor our own betterment and for the continuation of the species, etc
your comment shows your frustration with your low emotional quotient

How am I frustrated if I view it as an unnecessary throwback?
Empathy is the psychological equivalent of the appendix. I don't run in a pack; I don't socialise.
I have no empathy - but if I did, what use would it bring me?

Don't argue that it woud allow me to be happy by interacting with others, and living a normal life.
If I state that sort of nonsense, that kind of a waste of time has no meaning to me, then the tools to engage in such behaviour are simply dead weight - even if they have no physical presence.

I can actually score high, if I choose. It's easy to emulate behaviour if you've studied it long enough. They've a word for it - it's called "acting".

But if you can tell me what you can possibly gain of any merit, please, I'd welcome it. As I've said, though - if I have no use for the end result, than what merit does the tool bring?

what end result, this is the first we have heard of the end result.
read the entirity of my original rebutal to your original post. if you do you will see how i have said that emotions are a necessary tool to humans.
and i dont believe you for a second that you scored highly, it is the fact that you are "so irate" and so diagreeant to the idea of emotion that tells us you are frustrated with a lack of emotion and scoring in the "end reuslt".

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15 Aug 2008, 4:38 am

i_Am_andaJoy wrote:

Kajjie wrote:

Tahitii has a point though, half of it measured social skills rather than empathy. Or perhaps I don't understand the difference...

Ah, maybe. Thanks for explaining.

Although I don't have so much trouble with social skills as some Aspies, my skills are learned, not instinctive.

My dad suggested I get my non-AS sister to take the test, to see if 22 does imply low empathy. She got 53.

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15 Aug 2008, 6:16 pm

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15 Aug 2008, 6:26 pm

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16 Aug 2008, 6:25 am

14 :oops:

bit embarrassing at my age.

I also think the test is rubbishy like most online tests. The trouble I have is when you move down the test you can no longer see the agree/disgree headings and I get confused about which side they're on. Had to check a couple of times.

I wonder if NTs respond to this type of test with answers that will make them seem a 'nice' person rather than the truth, perhaps that would account for their scores. I mean it's obvious which answers would score highly.

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