Do you sometimes feel that AS is a made up disorder?

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I'm quite sure we had some strange neuro wiring as Aspies, but think its also in our DNA. It's not all brain.

Not necessarly. If I understand, what many "AS deniers" believe is that AS is simply a label created to stigmatize "non-conformist individuals" as "disabled" (usually, they believed the same about ADHD, ODD, etc.). Some exemple of these style of thinking:

http://jeffsaddmind.com/dr-baughman-asp ... st-154.htm
http://fskrealityguide.blogspot.com/200 ... lness.html

For the people who belive that "AS does not exist, they are simply people with a different personality", the fact that you and many people have the symptoms of AS is probably irrelevant: for them, this only prove that "symptoms of AS" are normal traits of human personality, and not "symptoms" of anything (and, more people with these symptomes are, more they believe in that).

And, if we think a bit, what is the real difference between these "AS deniers" and the Aspies who say "AS is not a disease not a disability, it is simply a diference"? (btw, the second link that I post can be read in both ways).

P.S. I suspect the post-morten diagnosis of Einstein, Michalangelo, Newton, Jefferson, Andersen, W.B. Yets and almost all famous scientists and writers also contribute to give the idea that "AS does not exist" (or, at least, that many people diagnosed with AS don't have that) - because some people think that the diagnosis criteria for anonymous living people is so broad as for famous dead people (I suspect that is much more narrow).

actually just the opposite. I tried and found it hard when I was a preteen to be who I am and then it progressed up through the years getting a little easier every day to actually be who I am instead of trying to be 'normal' in the first place. The normal NT stuff is pretty sick if you ask me. Once I was around 33 or 34 I found it much easier to just be strange and unusual and nobody much cared by then. Older people will accept you for having idiosyncrices as it's no big deal. It's only when your a youngster that's a problem.

Having my profile set to Neurotypical didn't feel right so I changed it back.
If only it had the "other" option.

What so you suddenly aren't AS anymore? I thought there was an "Other autistic spectrum disorder" option on WP if that fits better.

Spokane_Girl is "Other"

Like garyww, I was always myself, and other people got used to it.

I find older people are becoming more like me. While I am becoming more like them.

Others I have met were the most interesting, and before the witch doctors got involved, we mostly went with what worked, and our skills are in demand.

Most of what I have seen as the Impairment of AS was caused by witch doctors with pills.

We may have quirks, but we are by far not the strangest people running around.

On the other hand the application of natural skills has always gotten me through.

The line seems to be, is it a disorder?

I would have to vote no, for I was born that way. It seems common here. Normal people get disorders, normal except for... We never made normal.

Totally untreated, never dealt with anything, made it to my sixties having fun, and doing new things.

Now that I know what they are, older aspies start a new business at 60, when the world about is running down.

Looking at the whole path, other people are born pre programed, we build ours as we go. My computer teacher is 89. I am good, he is great.

We are natural students that become teachers late in life.

I think it is just something nature kept in the mix, like boys who have to shave at eleven, and die of old age before fifty, and the hard chargers who die off at 43 of a heart attack. In some lines everyone dies of Cancer, or something.

We age slowly, which annoys those who have to grow up quickly.

As Alexander The Great put it. "He who subdues or surpasses mankind, must look down upon their wrath."

We may age slower, but studies have shown we die younger so its not that great. Though I suspect maybe we die younger because some NT finally figures a way to kill us and get by with it. I still remember the "weirdo I'm going to kill you" comments I got from schoolmates.

I feel normal and I don't feel aspie enough so I keep it at "other autism spectrum disorder" but yet I don't feel NT enough because I have a disability in my brain and don't really relate to people. But all my doctors say I have AS. Not one of them has denied me being on the spectrum. My therapists could tell for some reason and I am sure my doctor could tell too.


I would say I'm borderline AS so I say I'm that even if some don't think so. Shame there is no "borderline autism spectrum."

There are already categories of ASD hence the S for "spectrum" as in there is a whole spectrum or categories of autism.

You also mention "possible causes" we already know pausible causes including genes, some sort of outside chemical activation, etc (ex: There is an 80% chance that identical twins will both have it (gene related(twins) and chance (80%)))

Also you say "I know AS or autism is made-up. It's really obvious that it's a neurological disorder."
If you know thats its made up then how is it really obvious to you that is a neurological disorder? Seems conflicting.

I think it was a typo. He meant to say "isn't." It just makes more sense because he said it's obvious it's a neurological disorder.

I personally don't think of it as an excuse, but rather an explanation. Infact I have not even told anyone.
I technically was always aware that I had it, I just did not know what to call it. I was always wondering why how people think, and act is so much different than myself. Before I knew about it I even once wrote up a comparison sheet between most people and how I am, and little did I know I actually wrote a comparison between NTs and people with Aspergers. So for me its not an excuse, its just amazing and even overwhelming to know so many people are going through what I am.

Sorry I read it for what it said which seemed conflicting to me, I did not realize the solution was that it was a typo.