symptoms of asperger syndrome really defined

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social symptoms of aspergers

25- shyness...symptom is moderate to severe............always been terribly shy, BUT can also be not so shy, lol...........especially with anger...............but for the most part i'm mellow

26 naive trust in others...symptom is moderate to severe......yes, especially when i was young....people would lead me on and i would follow for attention and be taken advantage of, but i wouldn't let it go on too too long.as i got older it subsided a lot.....i gwt angry when i see anyone taking advantage of anyone

27-bluntness in emotional expression.......symptom mild to moderate..............yes very mush so.i am very blunt and to the point.when younger, i did not realize how bad this looked............but i am honest to a fault which gets me in trouble, lol............as i aged, i learned the fine art of being subtle and to choose words carefully

28- immature manners.symptom mild to moderate..............yes when i was young, (pre-puberty) i acted very immature for my age.........but once i turned 16, i acted very mature for my age, probably because of self consciousness...............but all in all, i still have the young kid in me and act on it once in awhile, lol


only 6 more after this people.....then we gat to the physical manifestations of aspergers

Yep.....occasionally I've made a big effort and it's looked as if I'm not shy, but I always seem to fall back into my introverted ways. I can be quite outgoing with people I know well, if I've grown to like and trust them, but even then I have a desire to get away from them before something goes wrong. And if I get drunk I might become quite extravert.



No.....I can't remember a time when I naively trusted anybody.


I don't know that I'm any good at expressing my emotions at all....I've always been blunt by nature in matters of opinion and forgetting to spare other people's feelings when divulging my ideas, but I'm not sure about emotional expression. It's very hard for me to fake positive feelings. I hold back a lot of negative feelings, at least I don't voice them - I pull a lot of punches but I don't know what my body language shows. If I expressed how I felt with any immediacy, I expect I'd offend a lot of people very quickly. And I'd be giving the game away to authority figures and to others who don't wish to join with me in the spirit of love and co-operation. As far as I know, it's part of the NT mainstream game to hide a lot of emotions from each other anyway, isn't it? I try to pretend to be a part of the mainstream, but mostly I'm just thinking "you are not my people, go away and stop bothering me." But since recognising that I have something of an attitude problem, I'm more likely to correct my immediate internal reactions to people.....I'll think a lot of unkind thoughts about strangers and about anybody who gets in my way, but I know I'm just being stupid, and I don't really believe what I'm thinking at times like that. I kind of reason it out with myself.


I'm pretty courteous usually, though I probably learned to be that way. But I probably ignore a lot of stuff that I "should" do, and I have trouble mustering up any great interest in other people's doings, unless it happens to co-incide with whatever I'm into, or if I think that they're suffering greatly and can't get help anywhere else. You'd have to ask somebody else whether my manners were immature though - I can't tell from the inside. And there's so much cultural variation that I don't see how anybody could tell what's supposed to be correct. I don't make a lot of noise or get in other people's way, or move their stuff around, or interrupt them, I don't impose myself where I don't think I'm wanted, I try to avoid pissing people off unless they've pissed me off. I don't swear if I think the company can't handle it. I keep my opinions to myself if I think they'd be offensive, unless it's important to air them. I try not to take my temper out on the innocent. I'm not brash. I don't like hurting or frightening people unless they're threatening me. I'd hate to think I'd been insensitive towards the innocent.

1-difficulty in accepting criticism or correction, this symptom is usually mild to moderate

Yes, incredibly so. I have been working on this, however, to try and improve myself in those areas that warrent criticism.

2- difficulty in offering correction or criticism without appearing harsh, pendantic, or insensitive...this symptom is usually moderate to severe

I've actually stopped criticizing people because of this.

3-pouting, ruminating, fixating on bad experiences with people or events for an INORDINATE length of time........this symptom is moderate to severe

Ye gawds, there are still insanely minor things that pop into my head from four years ago, and earlier, even!

4-abrupt and STRONG expressions of likes and dislikes......mild to moderate symptom

Aye, and that's all I'll say about that.

5- difficulty with adopting social masks to obscure real feelings and emotions...moderate to severe symptom

I used to joke about wearing sunglasses because "guys are supposed to be unemotional."

6- low to medium level of paranoia.......mild to moderate symptom

Doesn't mean they're not out to get me!

7-failure to distinguish between private and public personal care
habits: i.e., brushing, public attention to skin problems, nose picking, teeth picking, ear canal cleaning, (lol) clothing arangement..........mild to moderate symptom

I do do some of these things on occasion.

8- RIGID adherence to rules and social conventions where flexibility is desirable................mild to moderate symptom

I think I have this, like the "do not touch" rule and whatnot.

9-social isolation and intense concern for privacy.....symptom moderate to severe

I spend the weekend at my mother's apartment. Whenever anyone asks, though, I always say I am going "elsewhere." There are a multitude of other examples I could list.

10- flash temper....symptom mild to moderate

I used to have this, but not so much anymore. I've been trying to find ways to control my temper.

11- difficulty judging other peoples space..symptom moderate to severe

Proxemics is not my friend.

12- limited by intensley pursued interests.....symptom mild to moderate

I've mentioned my love for math and patterns, but I often relate things to math in fairly odd ways, so I am capable of, say, writing an essay using my abilities with patterns.

13-Limited clothing preference;discomfort with formal attire or uniforms.....symptom is moderate to severe.

I don't mind uniforms as a rule, I just don't like the fact that every uniform I've been forced to wear is made of horrible materials.

14-Preference for bland or bare envioronments in living arrangements...symptom moderate to severe

I really don't know about this one. I don't think I've ever decorated any room I had with pointless objects, but I don't know if I'd necessarily mind them.

15- excessive talk...moderate to severe symptom

Yeah, sometimes. Other times, I don't talk at all.

16-tantrums

I seriously doubt I've had more than one or two tantrums in my entire life. Well, maybe a couple recently (but that was because the "no touch" rule was broken).

17-low to no apparent sense of humor; bizarre sense of humor...symptom is mild to moderate

I have a strange sense of humor, I guess.

18- known for single-mindedness...symptom moderate to severe

Somewhat true for me, I think.

19- often percieved as "being in their own world"...symptom moderate to severe

I do like to drift off by myself for a while.

20- discomfort manipulating or "playing games" with others......symptom moderate to severe

Well, I don't like to play games, but I do manipulate on occasion, though it's not my preference to do so. Generally, I prefer to present a logical argument.

21- difficulty in forming friendships and intimate relationships; difficulty in distinguishing between acquaintance and friendship........symptom moderate to very severe

I have very few friends at all. I rarely move anyone up from acquaintance to friend. My definition is probably a lot different than most people's.

22-difficulty with reciprocal dispays of pleasantries and greetings....symptom is moderate to very severe

I've sort of had this beaten into me at Job Corps (not literally!). When someone says "hi," I must say "hi," and so forth. There are still a number that I don't quite "get" yet, though.

23- "Serious" all the time........symptom mild to moderate

Not really. I mean, when I'm by myself, yes. However, when I'm actively engaged with other people (which is rare, but happens), then I'm generally the one joking around.

24- constant anxiety about performance and acceptance, despite recognition and noteriety...........symptom moderate to very severe

Not always, but I do have trouble with my singing, drawing, and writing (especially essays). With math, I know I'm good at both calculation and pattern finding.

25- shyness...symptom is moderate to severe

Uh, yeah.

26 naive trust in others...symptom is moderate to severe

No, not anymore. I observed people all the time. I know that the currency of the realm is lies. I do tend to trust unless proven otherwise, but it's a wary trust for quite some time. Still, I do tend to share my weaknesses too often.

27-bluntness in emotional expression.......symptom mild to moderate

A little bit, but I can't think of any specific time this significantly affected my life.

28- immature manners.symptom mild to moderate

Maybe when I was younger, but people nowadays say that I seem very mature for my age.

not really, if anything my neutral face is a smirk


mild-moderate. When I was younger I used to want to be like the populars and I'd try to hard because I wanted to be accepted by those higher than me socially.



moderate, I often find myself being very quiet around people.


can be anything from mild to HARDCORE. I am very easily tricked and fooled and I miss people's intentions, so I've ended up telling bitchy people my secrets because they acted "nice".


Mild, I don't usually say bluntly what I'm feeling anymore but my body languae/face is always really obvious and I can't hold it in too good.


mild. I'm often reminded to say my please and thankyous.

1 - difficulty in accepting criticism or correction I have always had issues with receiving criticism. It feels like lack of acceptance. I tend to shut down in the presence of frequent criticism. Is that a form of meltdown? I am very emotionally sensitive.

2 - difficulty in offering correction or criticism without appearing harsh, pendantic, or insensitive To my surprise, people tell me I can be very intimidating, and I feel awful when I discover I have offended someone, or hurt their feelings, though there are many situations where it cannot be avoided. I tend to write my criticisms down if the opportunity presents itself, and I will reword it until it feels like it will communicate the desired meaning without being offensive. If I cannot write the statement down, I will play it in my head over and over, changing it until it feels right. But I have problems in situations where there is no time to think my response out in advance, like when my wife asks, "How does my hair look?"

3 - pouting, ruminating, fixating on bad experiences with people or events for an INORDINATE length of time When I get offended, or my feelings get hurt, I tend to forgive first, and then go inside to analyze the situation to see if I did anything myself that contributed.

4 - abrupt and STRONG expressions of likes and dislikes I have strong likes and dislikes of things, but I try to temper my expressions of those opinions because people's feelings are also important to me. However, for people, there is a different functionality at work. It depends upon how they feel when I see them, or read their words, etc.

5 - difficulty with adopting social masks to obscure real feelings and emotions Don't know if this applies to me or not. I have a logical verbal side, and I have a deeply sensitive emotional, think in pictures, and intuitive side, and I keep the logical on the outside most of the time, to protect the hyper sensitive emotional side that does not endure exposure very well. It's not really a false face, but it serves the purpose well.

6 - low to medium level of paranoia If I have this, it's very mild.

7 - failure to distinguish between private and public personal care
habits It is not so much a failure to distinguish for me, but more of a problem when in auto pilot mode. I can't tell what clothes go together by appearance, except by the feel of their colors. I can tell by how it feels whether the colors work to together.

8 - RIGID adherence to rules and social conventions where flexibility is desirable Not me. I tend to be much more of a fly by the seat of my pants, go with the flow kind of person.

9 - social isolation and intense concern for privacy This is me, but that would be the case with nearly any introvert right?

10 - flash temper More so when a child, but it becomes more of a problem when I am stressed. But I expect ASD folks don't have a corner on this one.

11 - difficulty judging other peoples space Personal space that relates to how close I can get to a person without making them feel uncomfortable I have no trouble reading, but personal space that is more abstract like personal boundaries, like what subjects are ok to broach with a person, and what is TMI, I struggle a bit more with.

12 - limited by intensley pursued interests ]No limitation from my interests.

13 - Limited clothing preference;discomfort with formal attire or uniforms It's rather uncomfortable but it doesn't stop me from wearing the garment when the situation requires it.

14 - Preference for bland or bare environments in living arrangements I love colorful environments when I notice them, but I have a gift for overlooking, or not even noticing what is around me when it's cluttered or bland, which amazes my wife. My wife practically cannot think clearly in the presence of clutter. But clean beautiful environments grab my attention and recharge my batteries.

15 - excessive talk NOPE. I must have been hiding behind the door when the gifts of gab were handed out.

16 - tantrums This is kind of related to item # 10, and to item #28. To me, tantrums are a form of attention getting behavior that one needs to unlearn, and replace with something that is more acceptable and mature. But perhaps in an ASD context, tantrums relate to meltdown?

17 - low to no apparent sense of humor I have very dry humor. In fact some folks have difficulty determining when I am kidding and when I am serious. A favorite activity of mine is finding ways to put a smile on other people's faces.

18 - known for single-mindedness I have the opposite problem. Doing only one thing at a time can be very difficult, depending upon the task. When I am doing mundane tasks I need to be doing two or more other things at the same time to avoid getting distracted, or failing to complete the task because I zoned out and ran out of time.

19 - often perceived as "being in their own world" Some family members refer to this attribute of mine as "navel analysis" and don't think very highly of the attribute, claiming it looks too much like assumed behavior of drug attics. But alas. That is where I live.

20 - discomfort manipulating or "playing games" I guess I tolerate it well, but I don't like it. I can usually find a way to beat them at their own game, but would rather not go that route unless I have to.

21 - difficulty in forming friendships and intimate relationships; difficulty in distinguishing between acquaintance and friendship Friendships are rare, and mostly with females, except with certain people. If the friendship is with a compatible person, the friendship grows very deep, very quickly.

22 - difficulty with reciprocal dispays of pleasantries and greetings I know there are folks out there who need to reciprocate and be reciprocated to, but I don't do things for folks to be reciprocated. If what I did, accomplished what I intended it to accomplish, I really don't care whether I am thanked or not. It didn't occur to me at first that reciprocation for some people is more than just a rule in the etiquette set, but that failure to do so is actually offensive. To avoid offending, I have gotten to where I thank everyone for everything, and I try to remember to reciprocate, but I forget sometimes. Greetings aren't a problem most of the time. I just say "Hi" to anyone who gives me eye contact, and I do more than that for someone who feels like they would be receptive to it.

23 - "Serious" all the time Not all the time, but much of the time. I love making use of visual puns now and then. They aren't always understood well by folks who think in words.

24 - constant anxiety about performance and acceptance, despite recognition and noteriety Acceptance is biggie for me. But I go more by whether I feel it in the person, not if they express it. This also relates to the receiving of criticism thing. Actually performance ties in also. But I don't think I quite experience continuous tension over them. I have lots of inner conversations where feeling feels unaccepted so logic argues that the feeling is wrong by presenting evidence from others observed behaviors.

25 - shyness Well I'm not shy at all, but I am rather reserved and can be somewhat stand offish. In my mind there is a huge difference.

26 - naive trust in others Oh yes. My wife often says she feels like she needs to protect me from myself, but I don't always want to be protected. Some folks end up living up to my faith when given the chance.

27 - bluntness in emotional expression To me this relates to #2, bluntness in expression of criticism. I expect the both stem from the same problem. I seldom say just what comes to mind because experience has taught me that I can wound people's feelings without trying to, very easily. I envy people who can just say whatever is on their mind without having to filter it in any way, and it just comes out, by itself, kind and beautiful.

28 - immature manners I was a very late bloomer. For years I was immature both physically and emotionally, yet folks tell me that I have great tact. Ok. Whatever. However I am wondering if this category is referring to something that has a different cause.

29- problems expressing empathy or comfort to/with others: sadness, condolence, congratulations, etc....symptom moderate to severe.................i have always been severely empathetic inside even when i was young, but i did not express it well, or never shown it...but i made up for it inside.always have been bad with condolence, but way better now............had a hard time with congratulating competitors and was always a poor sport when i was young, this got better as i aged

30- difficulty in percieving and applying unwritten social rules or protocols.............symptom moderate to very severe..........up until i was about 21 yrs old i did some really dumbazzed things socially...very akward and just said and did what i felt, a lot of times i would express the opposite of what i was feeling, lol..........by the time i was 35 though, i pretty much figured out the social graces and have no problem now being in the group socially and casually, though i still would rather be alone, lol


31-"flat affect".symptom mild to moderate.............this symptom goes with the"bluntness in emotional expression" symptom......................i would say i always had a flat affect in my emotional expression.kinda dull and predictable....................but when i get excited or angry, it is anything but flat, lol

Yes. I have trouble knowing how good or bad they're feeling about this or that, and when I do know, I find it hard to put into words what I want to say to them to comfort them or to congratulate them. I'm learning slowly, but it's still a lot better if I have time to think, which I don't always have. I'm often wary of giving anybody a cuddle to comfort them, but I'm OK about putting a hand on their shoulder...it seems less invasive of me to do that, and somebody did it for me once when I was in a bad state, and it made me feel a lot better. I've occasionally cuddled people to congratulate them, but unless I feel very close to them and trust them a lot, it still feels precarious and awkward. I was also a bad sport, but I changed that later as well.


I still have little patience with unwritten social rules - I feel that if they want me to comply then they should have the decency to make it plain instead of giving me stupid monkey-puzzles all the time. I've cracked some of the code, but my first impulse is still usually to avoid social situations where there are likely to be any complex and clandestine demands.


Yes I still tend to have a flattened affect. I used to think I was suffering from flattened emotions, which was a psychiatric disorder, but I realised that I do have emotions just like anybody else, only they're often difficult for me identify. I've made some inroads into projecting a more animated way of talking, largely by practising emphasis. It's one of those areas where I don't resent trying to "fit in" with the rest of the world, because other people who have a flattened affect tend to make me feel bored or annoyed with them.....it's so much easier to concentrate on a person who has a reasonably animated way of talking....though I can't stand people who are too bubbly either. I don't like myself for feeling dismissive towards flattened talkers, because reason tells me it's not their fault and that they're probably not as boring as they seem, so I try to work on that. Some people seem to have a coldness of affect though, and that still usually gives me the creeps and makes me feel unloved and worthless, even if they don't mean it to do that. Again, I work on it but it's hard to cut through the negative feelings I get at the time.

As for flattened body language, I don't really think about it much.....I just get as comfortable as I can, and maybe use some gestures, but probably not a lot. I don't mind if other people under-use body language, as I barely notice it anyway, as far as I know.

29 - problems expressing empathy or comfort to/with others: sadness, condolence, congratulations, etc I do this very easily in writing, on forums and the like, but I feel very ill at ease when attempting to express it IRL.

30 - difficulty in perceiving and applying unwritten social rules or protocols Once I learn to recognize something by it's pattern, I have little trouble recognizing it and sometimes I even can apply it, but these things don't just occur to me the way they seem to, to extroverts.

31 - "flat affect" My experience here has been paradoxical. Sometimes I am criticized for having no expression on my face, but other times I am told that people can know what I am feeling, simply by looking at the expressions on my face. I think the solution might be that I show flat affect when I zone out.

29- problems expressing empathy or comfort to/with others: sadness, condolence, congratulations, etc....symptom moderate to severe

Yes, though this is something I've been working on. I can generally judge what emotions someone is feeling, but I seem to intentionally block them out. As I said, however, I am working on this.

30- difficulty in percieving and applying unwritten social rules or protocols.............symptom moderate to very severe

Yes, and I've actually pointed out the pointlessness of many of those unwritten social rules that I've figured out (some I recognize are necessary, but a number of them are completely pointless and, in some cases, detrimental).

31-"flat affect".symptom mild to moderate.............this symptom goes with the"bluntness in emotional expression" symptom

As I understand this, I do.

I love this thread, anyway

Me to a T but not sure of the extent. I do feel empathy, but I find it hard to act on it. And I don't know how to comfort people when they cry or something really bad has happened to them recently. And I'm not the best congratulator either.


mild, I used to be atrocious as a kid but now I'm pretty clued up on the social rules, and I'm also interested in psychology so the books I read often help with that.


not that I know of

well here we are, the final social symptoms of aspergers, lol....i bet you thought it would never end, lol.....boy do we have issues, lol

32-low or no conversational participation in group meetings or conferences....symptom mild to moderate................not really, i attended lots of meetings and classes in my career and have had really no issues voicing my ideas or opinions.....maybe in the beginning i am shy and quiet..but once i figure the group out, i participate.......as you guys can see, i ask some pretty darn good questions so i like to think individually and in a group............i especially love brainstorming group meetings, where you let everything that is in your head come out at random and quickly

33-using social masks inappropriately (you are "xv" while everyone else is ????)...symptom mild to moderate......i never quite understood this one, i suppose it means you act happy when others are sad, angry when others are happy ...etc...etc.............yes i did do that a lot in youth, but not so much now

34- apparent absense of relaxation, recreational, or "time out" activities...............interestingly they said this symptom is NONEXISTANT...........i don't know if they are comparing aspergers to regular lower functioning ones or what??! !.............but i have never had a problem with hobbies or recreational activities, lol.............my mind is always goin a mile a minute.i like to relax a lot too.


finally, the last symptom:

- are superior lovers and drive the opposite sex wild with mad passion and attract them in droves......symptom is VERY SEVERE.......ROFLMAO..just kidding, wanted to see who was awake, lol.....you think we deserve this one for all of the above crap we have to wade through and figure out how to manage all of our lives, lol


tommorow we will start explore the physical manifestations of our beloved condition


btw, favor please ...as you can all see, i am pretty lousy on the computer
would one of you be so kind , in one post ,to summarize all the 34 symptoms and their degree of severity so we have it and if anyone wants to copy it, don't print my individual experience with each symptom, just the symptom and severity level......thanks

mild-moderate, if it's an informal meeting (that isn't my closest friends) then I hardly talk at all, if it's a more formal discussion like in a classroom I don't say much and when I do speak I always face the teacher/whoevers giving the lesson because I don't want to face my peers.


mild, I used to be terrible with this but Iv'e learned over the years. But there are the odd times when alot of people are sad/watching a sad news story and I've got a smirk on my face and trying not to laugh, usually through nerves or it's just a natural reaction nomatter if I'm amused or not.


nonexisent, infact alot of my time is spent relaxing or taking time out, usually when I should be working because I'm a notorious procrastinator



OH yeah this is me to a T

That's me.......I just sit there and get bored silly, the whole thing goes way too fast and it's too rapidly-changing to give me the slightest chance to have any input.



No, I don't understand this one either. What is "xv"? I suppose in the past I've used exagerrated and inappropriate "social masks," because I didn't know how I was supposed to react. These days I'm probably better at it, though I find it very difficult to use any mask at all....it never used to work when I did, and I seem more able to respect myself for not faking things. Sometimes I get an urge to laugh when something bad's happened to somebody, so I just hold it back as best I can and get out of the way quick - and once I'm out of the way, I don't feel the need to laugh any more, so I guess it's just tension rather than really finding somebody's tragedy funny. There was me and this other kid at school, a lot of us found the art teacher hilarious because he was very eccentric, and when the head announced that he'd died, we had to stuff our hankies in our mouths to stop ourselves being noticed laughing our heads off......I felt bad about it later but just couldn't help it. Anyway, nobody noticed or they'd have killed us. I just hope I never get that again.



I seem to have no distinction between work and play, except that working in a job is for somebody else and it's not what I'd rather be doing. I find it very hard to just sit and take in some entertainment....probably why I smoked cannabis and took psilocybin and (I'm ashamed to say) got drunk. It was the only way of stopping myself from working.


If only real life could be like that......

32 - low or no conversational participation in group meetings or conferences Yes, I have this tendency. I can be much more outgoing in one on one situations, but tend to be silent as a stump in group settings. It's not that I am not participating, and I am following the conversation unless they are talking about a subject that I am unfamiliar with. I get criticism sometimes if I sit through a discussion at a Bible Study that we participate in, and never say anything to contribute. For me, intelligent people spew out huge amounts of energy, and I love just being around them, just to drink it in. But it's also stimulating getting listen to their conversation, when they are discussing something that interests me, even if I say nothing. I am also "high sensation seeking" on top of being highly sensitive. The two tend to cancel each other out somewhat. I don't know how common that is among Aspies.

33 - using social masks inappropriately (you are "xv" while everyone else is ????) I don't think I do this, unless this is about responding more to what is going on inside, than to being impacted by the moods of people around me. If that is what this is about, then perhaps it applies now and then.

34 - apparent absense of relaxation, recreational, or "time out" activities If this is about not having many hobbies, then I qualify. If it is about not taking time to do activities to destress, then I don't.

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32-low or no conversational participation in group meetings or conferences....symptom mild to moderate

It depends on the setting. In a classroom environment, I know that I overparticipate, but in an informal environment, I mostly just watch and listen.

33-using social masks inappropriately (you are "xv" while everyone else is ????)...symptom mild to moderate

I don't think this one applies to me very much, but I have been told that I look x when I'm really feeling y.

34- apparent absense of relaxation, recreational, or "time out" activities...............interestingly they said this symptom is NONEXISTANT

The fact that one of my favorite pasttimes is math has people wondering when I relax. Otherwise, I'm not entirely clear on what is meant by this.

are superior lovers and drive the opposite sex wild with mad passion and attract them in droves......symptom is VERY SEVERE

Unfortunately, yes. This problem has plagued me considerably in my life.

the physical manifestations of asperger syndrome

1- strong sensory sensetivities: touch and tactile sensations, sounds, lighting and colors, odors, and taste......symptom mild to moderate...............OMG, though i never suffered from sensory overloan unless it was my temper, my senses have always been quite keen:
- sight..when i was younger i could see a speck in the air a mile away.....when i was 25, i tested 20/10...always have had superior eyesight.....last year i still tested 20/20 and i am 49......though i can tell now i aint what i was, i can still read real fine print on an aspirin bottle with little trouble.

- hearing.....again i have always had the ears of a blood hound...i still can hear real well.i tend not to like loud music and can't stand noisy bars

-smell....i was once on a highway with some people...i said i smelt burning tires or something like that..they all looked at me like i was crazy..............sure enough, a few miles later we could see heavy black smoke and a fire to the side of the highway, lol...they were stunned........i smell so good that i can detect bad breath or body odor easily.ewwww, that part of it sucks



2-nail biting...symptom moderate to severe...............no never, however i was a nose picker when i was a kid and it was pretty bad..i never cared about the public viewing it either, lol...i wish i would have stopped that


3-unusual gait, stance, posture......symptom moderate to severe....when i was younger, i had a loping gait that kinda pointed to the left, lol...........i also had very poor posture standing and sitting, i corrected that as i started to excercise and have none of it now