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28 May 2009, 5:59 pm

One thing my friends have told me is that everyone deals with being tortured by other kids and whatnot in their childhoods; while I won't argue with that, I honestly don't believe other NTs who are picked on are attacked as badly as we are. Thought I'd get some of your perspectives.



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28 May 2009, 6:05 pm

I think we're attacked more cruely than NTs because they know one thing we mostly don't during childhood--conformity. I was cruely attacked during my childhood, and most of the kids now need my help to pass the graduate.



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28 May 2009, 6:12 pm

Well, I'm now beginning to really "grow a set" and in the process, pissing off lots of people, who prefer me to be a walking doormat I notice.

and I know conformity...I just won't allow myself to follow it.



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28 May 2009, 6:19 pm

TheDoctor82 wrote:
One thing my friends have told me is that everyone deals with being tortured by other kids and whatnot in their childhoods; while I won't argue with that, I honestly don't believe other NTs who are picked on are attacked as badly as we are. Thought I'd get some of your perspectives.


I also think as aspies we have a different interpretation or means of coping with bullying. We're far more sensitive to it...perhaps because we're more likely to NOT understand the cause of their bullying towards us (our mindblindness). We have all of these people invading our own little world in the most negative ways and we don't understand their means for it. It frustrates us more and it haunts us more.

I also think that it's those nerdy/geeky NTs who are always saying this c**p. I have a beef against those NTs in particular.

I like to punch people who say that to me in the gut sometimes.



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28 May 2009, 6:23 pm

Well, unfortunately half the time they tell us the reasonings, I've come to realize that they're not being fully honest, cause they don't want our feelings to get hurt. Yeah, that's gonna help....



28 May 2009, 6:44 pm

I read that thousands of kids get bullied but bullies like to go after the ones first who act different before they go after the ones who are normal but they will just find reasons to bully them about. My brothers were also teased in school, one was teased about his weight and the other was teased about the shape of his ears.



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28 May 2009, 7:00 pm

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I read that thousands of kids get bullied but bullies like to go after the ones first who act different before they go after the ones who are normal but they will just find reasons to bully them about. My brothers were also teased in school, one was teased about his weight and the other was teased about the shape of his ears.


Shape of his ears? That's just desperation.



28 May 2009, 7:32 pm

Huh? They called him "elf ears" and kept telling him he is an elf but when he told them he makes toys for Santa, they told him "Prove it" which never made sense because they were the ones saying he is an elf and then they were asking for proof that he is actually one? Bullies are stupid. Maybe they were just trying to hurt him and they didn't like the comeback they got so they did a comeback back to him. Some bullies do that.



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28 May 2009, 7:44 pm

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Huh? They called him "elf ears" and kept telling him he is an elf but when he told them he makes toys for Santa, they told him "Prove it" which never made sense because they were the ones saying he is an elf and then they were asking for proof that he is actually one? Bullies are stupid. Maybe they were just trying to hurt him and they didn't like the comeback they got so they did a comeback back to him. Some bullies do that.


Yeah, my comebacks were horrifically bad.

As the old saying goes "it's better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, then open it and remove all doubt"



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28 May 2009, 8:42 pm

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Huh? They called him "elf ears" and kept telling him he is an elf but when he told them he makes toys for Santa, they told him "Prove it" which never made sense because they were the ones saying he is an elf and then they were asking for proof that he is actually one? Bullies are stupid. Maybe they were just trying to hurt him and they didn't like the comeback they got so they did a comeback back to him. Some bullies do that.

That conversational flow would indicate they were asking proof that he works in santa's workshop, not disputing their own claim of him being an elf.

Just saying...



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28 May 2009, 8:46 pm

My brother tortured me as a young kid. He drove me to self defense. I was big into Thai boxing, weight lifting, and reading ranger handbook etc.. I had about thirty logs out back, I would throw logs allday. I was the bully destroyer in school, always helped the weak. I later became a army paratrooper. Managed for 7 yr. Later learning the traits of asp. I am glad to find out after discharge. Looking back, it felt like a 7 year bandaid.



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28 May 2009, 8:52 pm

TheDoctor82 wrote:
One thing my friends have told me is that everyone deals with being tortured by other kids and whatnot in their childhoods; while I won't argue with that, I honestly don't believe other NTs who are picked on are attacked as badly as we are. Thought I'd get some of your perspectives.


What makes you believe the children doing the torturing are neurotypical? I believe people with Narsistic and sadistic personalities would not distinguish their levels of torture due to Neurological variations. Perhaps the more vulnerable you appear and in distress the more stimulated/aroused these personalities become.



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28 May 2009, 9:10 pm

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TheDoctor82 wrote:
One thing my friends have told me is that everyone deals with being tortured by other kids and whatnot in their childhoods; while I won't argue with that, I honestly don't believe other NTs who are picked on are attacked as badly as we are. Thought I'd get some of your perspectives.


What makes you believe the children doing the torturing are neurotypical? I believe people with Narsistic and sadistic personalities would not distinguish their levels of torture due to Neurological variations. Perhaps the more vulnerable you appear and in distress the more stimulated/aroused these personalities become.


What makes me believe it? The fact that the NTs deep down don't really seem to mind it; they probably enjoy it.



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28 May 2009, 9:20 pm

TheDoctor82 wrote:
EvoVari wrote:
TheDoctor82 wrote:
One thing my friends have told me is that everyone deals with being tortured by other kids and whatnot in their childhoods; while I won't argue with that, I honestly don't believe other NTs who are picked on are attacked as badly as we are. Thought I'd get some of your perspectives.


What makes you believe the children doing the torturing are neurotypical? I believe people with Narsistic and sadistic personalities would not distinguish their levels of torture due to Neurological variations. Perhaps the more vulnerable you appear and in distress the more stimulated/aroused these personalities become.


What makes me believe it? The fact that the NTs deep down don't really seem to mind it; they probably enjoy it.

Are you saying that it is in the nature of people NT to not mind torturing others on some level? Or am I misreading that?

Bullies are people that more often than not have a troubled home life and are acting out in a certain way to get "respect" that they aren't getting elsewhere. I claim that it's also possible to have AS and be a bully, especially if you see something you hate about yourself very clearly in others.


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28 May 2009, 9:26 pm

Lecks wrote:
Spokane_Girl wrote:
Huh? They called him "elf ears" and kept telling him he is an elf but when he told them he makes toys for Santa, they told him "Prove it" which never made sense because they were the ones saying he is an elf and then they were asking for proof that he is actually one? Bullies are stupid. Maybe they were just trying to hurt him and they didn't like the comeback they got so they did a comeback back to him. Some bullies do that.

That conversational flow would indicate they were asking proof that he works in santa's workshop, not disputing their own claim of him being an elf.

Just saying...



I don't understand why Thedoctor82 said it was desperation for his ears so I was trying to ask him how so and he didn't really answer.



28 May 2009, 9:28 pm

fiddlerpianist wrote:
TheDoctor82 wrote:
EvoVari wrote:
TheDoctor82 wrote:
One thing my friends have told me is that everyone deals with being tortured by other kids and whatnot in their childhoods; while I won't argue with that, I honestly don't believe other NTs who are picked on are attacked as badly as we are. Thought I'd get some of your perspectives.


What makes you believe the children doing the torturing are neurotypical? I believe people with Narsistic and sadistic personalities would not distinguish their levels of torture due to Neurological variations. Perhaps the more vulnerable you appear and in distress the more stimulated/aroused these personalities become.


What makes me believe it? The fact that the NTs deep down don't really seem to mind it; they probably enjoy it.

Are you saying that it is in the nature of people NT to not mind torturing others on some level? Or am I misreading that?

Bullies are people that more often than not have a troubled home life and are acting out in a certain way to get "respect" that they aren't getting elsewhere. I claim that it's also possible to have AS and be a bully, especially if you see something you hate about yourself very clearly in others.



I've seen a few aspie bullies online. They have nothing better in their lives I think so they go online and take it out on others by being a jerk.