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25 Jun 2009, 2:26 pm

I can NEVER seem to figure out which way people are heading when we are walking directly at each other. When I am approaching them it looks like I'm a running back trying to juke them out. Then I'll pick the wrong direction :x and run into them, apologizing. What am I doing wrong am I not picking up on some nonverbal communication? Does anyone else have this problem?



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25 Jun 2009, 2:31 pm

Always had, don't know why but most of the times I choose the same direction of the person coming toward me...:roll:



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25 Jun 2009, 3:04 pm

Yeah...it helps if you just pick a side of the street and keep walking when you see someone walking towards you. They'll move over eventually. :) Another thing that always happens to me is I can't figure out when, or how long to look at or notice someone who is passing by me. Or I do the 'avoid eye contact until the last possible second so they don't think I'm staring and then maybe look at them as I pass so they don't think I'm trying NOT to look', etc. Do most people just KNOW when to do this stuff? Or maybe they just don't notice the other people around them and wonder which direction they're going to pick? lol



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25 Jun 2009, 3:20 pm

This is so common that there is a jokey term for it: "concrete quadrille". I didn't make that up.



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25 Jun 2009, 4:07 pm

bdubs wrote:
I can NEVER seem to figure out which way people are heading when we are walking directly at each other. When I am approaching them it looks like I'm a running back trying to juke them out. Then I'll pick the wrong direction :x and run into them, apologizing. What am I doing wrong am I not picking up on some nonverbal communication? Does anyone else have this problem?

If you're bigger than the other person then one solution is to walk in a straight line and wait to see how long they continue towards you before stepping out of the way. It's a pretty fun game. :twisted:



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25 Jun 2009, 4:11 pm

It's the eyes. People look the direction they are going to go. If you have AS, you are probably looking somewhere other than their eyes.



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25 Jun 2009, 4:20 pm

racethelightning wrote:
Yeah...it helps if you just pick a side of the street and keep walking when you see someone walking towards you. They'll move over eventually. :) Another thing that always happens to me is I can't figure out when, or how long to look at or notice someone who is passing by me. Or I do the 'avoid eye contact until the last possible second so they don't think I'm staring and then maybe look at them as I pass so they don't think I'm trying NOT to look', etc. Do most people just KNOW when to do this stuff? Or maybe they just don't notice the other people around them and wonder which direction they're going to pick? lol

I'm thinking the proper etiquette is to not stare unless the person is so far way that they can't possibly tell where you are looking. If your eyes connect at close range it's important to smile and nod to acknowledge their presence then immediately look away. Unless there is a verbal exchange of some sort, in which case you can hold eye contact for a little longer. There's also certain population density beyond which it's no longer necessary to acknowledge random passers-by, such as when you're passing someone every few seconds. In that case you try to avoid eye contact completely.



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25 Jun 2009, 4:43 pm

i was taught as a child (in america) to always stay to the right. if everyone would just do that we wouldn't have this problem.


thing is, not everyone gets this. i find it especially frustrating when someone is coming straight at me and i'm on the right side of the sidewalk (which is the left side for them) and they walk right into me. this used to happen a lot when i was younger but then i joined the army and even now that i've been out for years my walk is decidedly confident which seems to make people get out of the way. kind of like being bigger i guess. i taught myself to keep my head up, shoulders back, and eyes front. except i suck at the eyes front part. i can't help but look at things.


i think the part that confuses a lot of us on the spectrum is that eye contact is normal for most people. we remember that we're not supposed to stare at people and we run with that. i used to blink a lot when walking past people or i'd pretend i had noticed something in another direction. now i just look forward and they mostly get out of the way.


so that's my suggestion. keep your head up and shoulders back (this makes walking less strenuous as well) and just look forward. if you feel comfortable enough to look at them, but feel uncomfortable when they notice, just give a little half-nod. they'll most likely just give a little half-nod back and keep walking.




on a tangent, i didn't figure out that the half nod is just an acknowledgment until my late teens. until then, i thought it was a way to get someone's attention. i would get frustrated when i would use it and people would just walk by. this probably goes along with the way i annoyed people by answering them honestly when they asked "what's up?" or "what's going on?."



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25 Jun 2009, 10:03 pm

waltur wrote:
i was taught as a child (in america) to always stay to the right. if everyone would just do that we wouldn't have this problem.


thing is, not everyone gets this. i find it especially frustrating when someone is coming straight at me and i'm on the right side of the sidewalk (which is the left side for them) and they walk right into me. this used to happen a lot when i was younger but then i joined the army and even now that i've been out for years my walk is decidedly confident which seems to make people get out of the way. kind of like being bigger i guess. i taught myself to keep my head up, shoulders back, and eyes front. except i suck at the eyes front part. i can't help but look at things.


i think the part that confuses a lot of us on the spectrum is that eye contact is normal for most people. we remember that we're not supposed to stare at people and we run with that. i used to blink a lot when walking past people or i'd pretend i had noticed something in another direction. now i just look forward and they mostly get out of the way.


so that's my suggestion. keep your head up and shoulders back (this makes walking less strenuous as well) and just look forward. if you feel comfortable enough to look at them, but feel uncomfortable when they notice, just give a little half-nod. they'll most likely just give a little half-nod back and keep walking.




on a tangent, i didn't figure out that the half nod is just an acknowledgment until my late teens. until then, i thought it was a way to get someone's attention. i would get frustrated when i would use it and people would just walk by. this probably goes along with the way i annoyed people by answering them honestly when they asked "what's up?" or "what's going on?."


Exactly most people dont follow the simple rule stay on the right. I think my problem is that I use to look down all the time now I am trying to have more eye contact and I hesitate try to figure what they are going to do. I should just go right and stay right.

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this probably goes along with the way i annoyed people by answering them honestly when they asked "what's up?" or "what's going on?."


haha I use to do the same thing actually I sometimes still do :oops: .



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25 Jun 2009, 10:05 pm

I had this problem.

Always walk on the right. If you walk on the right, you're right, even if they do bump into you.


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25 Jun 2009, 10:15 pm

I do this a lot. I usually watch people very closely when they pass me, but we still end up doing the 'move out of the way' dance. Then I go back to staring at the clouds.


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26 Jun 2009, 12:17 am

I always move to the right, just as I would if I was driving down a small road and another car was coming from the opposite direction....Kinda like "pulling over", to let them pass.This works most of the time.


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26 Jun 2009, 12:50 am

waltur wrote:
i was taught as a child (in america) to always stay to the right. if everyone would just do that we wouldn't have this problem.


So was I. One of my professors cites this as an example of one of Durkheim's social facts, social behavior that's absorbed through daily life in a society rather than explicitly taught, but I can clearly remember my mother teaching me to walk on the right side of hallways, etc. I always walk to the right and if someone else isn't, they can move over.

The places I have problems are open spaces like courtyards or large rooms with people meandering every which way. I can't judge the flow of traffic very well and always end up either almost walking into someone or being run over myself. If possible, I'll just wait to one side until the crowd disperses a bit and I can find my way.

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26 Jun 2009, 4:07 am

I usually think of "Bittersweet Symphony." :wink:


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26 Jun 2009, 7:21 am

If I see that's going to happen, I'll sometimes stand still until the other has figured out just to pass by. Or I'll run to the side and pass by the other.

My dad sometimes says to the other one, when this happens to him: "Thank you for the dance". :lol: I've done the same a few times.

Or sometimes I just do it the "normal" confusing way, without saying anything or doing anything special.



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26 Jun 2009, 2:01 pm

Ambivalence wrote:
I usually think of "Bittersweet Symphony." :wink:

Actually I had an image of that very video in my head when I read this.