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20 Jan 2006, 2:54 am

http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cct ... 661707.htm

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Dina Melendez was taken aback when her 4-year-old started talking about his past lives, describing brothers, sisters, two dogs and a cat.

"And then he told me he died when he was 6 and that he waited before being born again - waited for me so I could be his mommy," Melendez recalls.

But it's what Matthew says about the future that really rattles this young mother, and leads her to conclude that he is one of the so-called Indigo children - believed to be a new generation of high-energy, sometimes difficult youngsters who have psychic abilities and a deep-blue aura.


Now bored soccer moms who think the universe revolves around their spawn can say "He's a special psychic indigo child, he's super smart and here to save the world!". Great, that's just what we needed.

I said all kinds of weird stuff like that when I was a little kid. It's called "having an imagination". Just wait till she catches the kid talking to his imaginary friend.. "OMG OMG! He's communicating telepathically with his indigo soulmates!"

At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Indigo_Children there's a list of 10 attributes that "indigo children" have. I really enjoyed these..

* They come into the world with a feeling of royalty (and often act like it).
* They have a feeling of "deserving to be here," and are surprised when others don't share that.
* Self-worth is not a big issue; they often tell the parents "who they are."
* They have difficulty with absolute authority (authority without explanation or choice).
* They simply will not do certain things; for example, waiting in line is difficult for them.
* They get frustrated with systems that are ritually oriented and don't require creative thought.
* They often see better ways of doing things, both at home and in school, which makes them seem like "system busters" (nonconforming to any system).
* They seem antisocial unless they are with their own kind. If there are no others of like consciousness around them, they often turn inward, feeling like no other human understands them. School is often extremely difficult for them socially.
* They will not respond to "guilt" discipline ("Wait till your father gets home and finds out what you did").
* They are not shy in letting it be known what they need.

Let's see here..

1-3. Symptoms of a spoiled brat whose parents didn't believe in the concept of discipline.
4-6. Describes pretty much every kid who's ever lived.
7. Ditto. Kids are very creative, at least before they're doped up on ADHD meds, antidepressants, and schools who train them to be good little conformists.
8. Holy crap, kids like to be around their friends. What a revelation.
9-10. Normal again, especially prevalent when not disciplined properly.

On a related note, I've heard a lot more about Asperger's Syndrome in the mainstream media lately. I'm not sure how to take that.. On one hand it's cool, because it might help kids who really have AS to be better understood and treated. But I'm afraid it will turn into one of those trendy things where suddenly every kid who's a little shy will be diagnosed with it, just like any child who gets bored and squirms around in their seat in an hour-long class has AD(H)D nowadays.



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20 Jan 2006, 3:08 am

I share your trepidation. I can see the pharmaceutical companies lining up to re-name their other drugs to treat AS--"Let's see, what shall we call Prozac/Zoloft/Ritalin for Aspies?" It was bad enough when they started giving amphetamines to five-year olds. And now they're all worried about crystal meth? I'm not saying there's a connection--I have no evidence of that, save that Ritalin use can predispose users to other stimulants--but who knows? Anyway, it's just one more potential way of putting kids in a box and selling them drugs--legally, natch.



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20 Jan 2006, 3:49 am

I think the problem is nowadays, parents just won't let their children be children. It used to be that all kids were expected to do was play, go to school, do their homework and maybe participate in an extra-curriculum activity or two. Now, there's this movement to push children into competition mode as soon as they're out the womb.

Parents want their babies to be next Einstein or Michael Jordon and put expectations on them to either succeed or be classified as failures. Either they develop fast enough to please our too fast paced society or be labeled as "slow" or "learning disabled", never mind the amount of time each child learns skills differs.

A parent who has a child who is different, fearing for his future, would gladly believe their kid has some extraordinary powers rather than the alternative, that he's not "perfect", afterall.


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20 Jan 2006, 9:55 am

Indigo Child or highly intellingent, insightful, creative manipulator??

Seriously, this sounds like mysticism and something that can't easily be proven nor documented.

I know a lot of parents who believe that thier child is so special or some kind of genius when other terms would be more appropriate!

When I first put my AS son in the public schools, they kept eagerly waiting for signs of brilliance, which never appeared! He actually has a slightly lower IQ than agerage.


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20 Jan 2006, 11:01 am

There's a woman in my circle who is totally convinced she is a "Starseed." I've been exposed to her belief system and know vaguely the literature this concept is coming from, though her relatives who have not been so exposed think she's delusional.

Her reasons for thinking so are the same reasons I had back in 1952 for thinking I was either a mutant or an alien.

She's gifted, different, has a lot of trouble dealing with many aspects of day to day reality, has a vivid imagination, and finds it hard to get along with or understand "mundanes.

Sound familiar?

She also learned to read before she talked.

I told her we were two of a kind, which she eagerly accepted, but so far I do not dare tell her what kind.



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20 Jan 2006, 11:24 am

I’m sad to see that many of you consider the concept of Indigo Children to be bunk and nothing more. I’m a very objective thinker, and I disbelieved just as much as the next scientifically minded individual: “Where’s the proof?” is what I always said. First of all, some of the claims made about the Indigo Children are very much misleading and inaccurate. Indigo Children have always been with us and are approximately five percent of the population (including adults!). Indigo Children are not able to live for hundreds of years.

However, I slowly began to see evidence that the core traits of the Indigo Child were very much real and very much present in many children and adults. I do not know if it is a form of synesthesia; but I see the auras, the indigo auras. They’re very bright. I accepted that I experience this psychic phenomenon just recently, but I accept my gifts now, and I want to share my knowledge. These children who are highly creative and unorthodox, willful, and emotionally tuned all have one other thing in common: their indigo aura. It’s real, people. Other colors exist as well. People who are going to die soon have no aura, and bad people—really bad people—have a pitch-black aura that sucks the vibrant energy out of other people’s auras when they are hurt. The Indigo Children are special; their auras are so bright that they can actually reenergize other people’s auras and keep going.

In general, people’s aura reflects their mood, and people’s default aura is whatever mood they find themselves habitually in. Depressed people have dulled auras, and happy people have bright ones. Angry people have red auras; jealous people have yellow auras; excitable people have rainbow auras; and quiet people have faint blue or purple auras.



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20 Jan 2006, 12:11 pm

I agree, wandrew. The timing is interesting, too.. It's becoming common knowledge that ADD is overdiagnosed, and that giving little kids powerful stimulants might not be a good idea. Since they've milked ADD all they can, they'll probably trot out some old ADD/antianxiety drug, give it a new name, and proclaim it as the cure for AS. Which half the kids will suddenly have, of course. :rolleyes:

How does one see these auras, NeantHumain?



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20 Jan 2006, 10:40 pm

NeantHumain-I don't doubt that people have "auras"(sp?) or that others can see them. People have energy just like everything else and I believe that in the beginning, energy was stronger and emitted more color than today. Why do some people see it and others do not? I think it has to do with the eye itself or ,more likely, with the way the brain processes what it sees; No proof, however. Also, the Bible says the the stars "sang" and I think it's a real possibility that the stars did emit tones that people could hear nearer to the creation; but this is all conjecture. More studies need to be done to determine the validity of these "indigo children". I saw a couple on TV and there was nothing special about them except for their imaginations. I think many parents are snowed by their kids. (I'm sure there's exceptions.)


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20 Jan 2006, 11:45 pm

NeantHumain is kidding, and oh look a Monk advertisement.

The concept of indigo children and other such things are a waste of time. Your kid is weird, big deal. :roll:


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21 Jan 2006, 1:11 am

I have all of those qualities listed although i dont think i have any psychic abilities. The only 2 I don't have exactly are 1 and 2. It is not that i feel that i deserve to be here, but that no one is undeserving of being here. I know why people say, or believe "they're worthless" but it is clearly obvious to me(aka, an opinion) that worth is a totally invented concept, and everyone in the world has equal importance - none, but this has no shame or unhappiness attatched to it. I deserve to be here as much as i want to. There is no authority which can dictate the true value of anything. It is merely their opinion. If i had the energy and inclination i would see nothing wrong, both in mundane and spiritual terms, to killing people for money. But i am lazy, and i'm not interested in investing the effort in killing to get away with it.

Also i wouldnt exactly say i feel like royalty. I'm not exactly sure what they mean by feeling and acting like royalty. I've never met or seen any person in the media, or read about someone that is like me. But part of being who i am is being a humble person. This cannot be something who i am, it is only something i can live as, as someone who i am becoming. If i am ever deliberately unhumble, i have sinned against myself. And the times which i have done this burn at me horribly, and shall forever do so.

Although, i fear/feel that expressing how i truely think instead of keeping it private defeats my attempts at being humble because it shows how conceited my goals are(an outward appearence, i dont actually view them as conceited). I express them however because i am not ready to withdraw totally into a world of writing. Part of me kind of hopes that i'd have enough bad experiances in being totally honest that i WOULD finally decide to stop trying to talk to the rest of the world outside of writing.


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