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22 Jun 2016, 10:33 am
goatfish57
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Location: In a village in La Mancha whose name I cannot recall
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22 Jun 2016, 3:18 pm
gingerpickles wrote:
How foreign are you are you talking. In most English speaking countries you'll probably be spotted as atypical.
If you like less and quiet interaction then the introverts of slavic Europe are for you but their painful to learn languages is a major obstacle. you;d have to live in larger city to ensure young speakers of English are around
I'm not as familiar with Spain but if you are an extrovert, Portugal might be a flavor for you. Specially coastal holiday towns
France is rather Metro. Scandanavian countries have people with good english an understanding of cultures, but also tolerant native culture (Denmark, Holland)
But remember the harder the language is the harder employment IF you can get a permit to live and work in your selected country to start with.
If you like less and quiet interaction then the introverts of slavic Europe are for you but their painful to learn languages is a major obstacle. you;d have to live in larger city to ensure young speakers of English are around
I'm not as familiar with Spain but if you are an extrovert, Portugal might be a flavor for you. Specially coastal holiday towns
France is rather Metro. Scandanavian countries have people with good english an understanding of cultures, but also tolerant native culture (Denmark, Holland)
But remember the harder the language is the harder employment IF you can get a permit to live and work in your selected country to start with.
My impression is that Eastern Europe (except Hungary and the Czech Republic) and Spain are more tolerant of personal differences. Portugal I don't know. People in the Balkans are extremely open and hospitable. Italy and France are more conformist in terms of style, eating habits, etc. That said, in France they put great emphasis on formal rules of politeness, which are easier to understand than informal rules.
Denmark is not incredibly tolerant. The fact that they have a laissez-faire attitude about things does not mean they will invite you into their society. Also, you are First Nations, right? Denmark has a Greenlandic minority that is in a sorry state, and they might lump you in with them. It is a miserable sight to see a bunch of Greenlanders getting drunk in the city squares.
Dutch people are incredibly straightforward, which has its good and bad sides
The Nordic countries is a different story. When I joined this forum I kept wondering what all this talk about eye contact was about. And you know what; avoiding eye contact is not really that unusual here, at least when you are not close to people. There is a joke that when they use personality tests in my country, they need to change the scoring of the test, otherwise 20% of the population will end up with avoidant personality disorder. It sounds like aspie heaven, right? Except people here are really inexpressive, and when you already have trouble reading body language..........let's say being active but odd is no walk in the park.
Here's a bunch of jokes about Europeans; they're actually pretty spot on:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... neighbours
I've found being a foreigner to be really great up to the point where I started getting good enough at speaking the language to have decent conversations with people; at that point, you've got one more thing to think about on top of trying to figure out social cues, understand the culture and focus on your executive functioning. I liked it more when I could smile pretty and point at things.
22 Jun 2016, 4:41 pm
underwater wrote:
My impression is that Eastern Europe (except Hungary and the Czech Republic) and Spain are more tolerant of personal differences. Portugal I don't know. People in the Balkans are extremely open and hospitable. Italy and France are more conformist in terms of style, eating habits, etc. That said, in France they put great emphasis on formal rules of politeness, which are easier to understand than informal rules.
Denmark is not incredibly tolerant. The fact that they have a laissez-faire attitude about things does not mean they will invite you into their society. Also, you are First Nations, right? Denmark has a Greenlandic minority that is in a sorry state, and they might lump you in with them. It is a miserable sight to see a bunch of Greenlanders getting drunk in the city squares.
Dutch people are incredibly straightforward, which has its good and bad sides
The Nordic countries is a different story. When I joined this forum I kept wondering what all this talk about eye contact was about. And you know what; avoiding eye contact is not really that unusual here, at least when you are not close to people. There is a joke that when they use personality tests in my country, they need to change the scoring of the test, otherwise 20% of the population will end up with avoidant personality disorder. It sounds like aspie heaven, right? Except people here are really inexpressive, and when you already have trouble reading body language..........let's say being active but odd is no walk in the park.
Here's a bunch of jokes about Europeans; they're actually pretty spot on:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... neighbours
I've found being a foreigner to be really great up to the point where I started getting good enough at speaking the language to have decent conversations with people; at that point, you've got one more thing to think about on top of trying to figure out social cues, understand the culture and focus on your executive functioning. I liked it more when I could smile pretty and point at things.
Denmark is not incredibly tolerant. The fact that they have a laissez-faire attitude about things does not mean they will invite you into their society. Also, you are First Nations, right? Denmark has a Greenlandic minority that is in a sorry state, and they might lump you in with them. It is a miserable sight to see a bunch of Greenlanders getting drunk in the city squares.
Dutch people are incredibly straightforward, which has its good and bad sides
The Nordic countries is a different story. When I joined this forum I kept wondering what all this talk about eye contact was about. And you know what; avoiding eye contact is not really that unusual here, at least when you are not close to people. There is a joke that when they use personality tests in my country, they need to change the scoring of the test, otherwise 20% of the population will end up with avoidant personality disorder. It sounds like aspie heaven, right? Except people here are really inexpressive, and when you already have trouble reading body language..........let's say being active but odd is no walk in the park.
Here's a bunch of jokes about Europeans; they're actually pretty spot on:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... neighbours
I've found being a foreigner to be really great up to the point where I started getting good enough at speaking the language to have decent conversations with people; at that point, you've got one more thing to think about on top of trying to figure out social cues, understand the culture and focus on your executive functioning. I liked it more when I could smile pretty and point at things.
What will they think of me? I'm Canadian, but my parents are Ecuadorian. Will I be lumped with Greenlanders, seen as Latin American or just seen as a regular Canadian? I have pale skin and mainly European features, but my eyes look Asian/Native.
22 Jun 2016, 4:43 pm
22 Jun 2016, 4:45 pm
22 Jun 2016, 5:36 pm
DevilKisses wrote:
underwater wrote:
My impression is that Eastern Europe (except Hungary and the Czech Republic) and Spain are more tolerant of personal differences. Portugal I don't know. People in the Balkans are extremely open and hospitable. Italy and France are more conformist in terms of style, eating habits, etc. That said, in France they put great emphasis on formal rules of politeness, which are easier to understand than informal rules.
Denmark is not incredibly tolerant. The fact that they have a laissez-faire attitude about things does not mean they will invite you into their society. Also, you are First Nations, right? Denmark has a Greenlandic minority that is in a sorry state, and they might lump you in with them. It is a miserable sight to see a bunch of Greenlanders getting drunk in the city squares.
Dutch people are incredibly straightforward, which has its good and bad sides
The Nordic countries is a different story. When I joined this forum I kept wondering what all this talk about eye contact was about. And you know what; avoiding eye contact is not really that unusual here, at least when you are not close to people. There is a joke that when they use personality tests in my country, they need to change the scoring of the test, otherwise 20% of the population will end up with avoidant personality disorder. It sounds like aspie heaven, right? Except people here are really inexpressive, and when you already have trouble reading body language..........let's say being active but odd is no walk in the park.
Here's a bunch of jokes about Europeans; they're actually pretty spot on:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... neighbours
I've found being a foreigner to be really great up to the point where I started getting good enough at speaking the language to have decent conversations with people; at that point, you've got one more thing to think about on top of trying to figure out social cues, understand the culture and focus on your executive functioning. I liked it more when I could smile pretty and point at things.
Denmark is not incredibly tolerant. The fact that they have a laissez-faire attitude about things does not mean they will invite you into their society. Also, you are First Nations, right? Denmark has a Greenlandic minority that is in a sorry state, and they might lump you in with them. It is a miserable sight to see a bunch of Greenlanders getting drunk in the city squares.
Dutch people are incredibly straightforward, which has its good and bad sides
The Nordic countries is a different story. When I joined this forum I kept wondering what all this talk about eye contact was about. And you know what; avoiding eye contact is not really that unusual here, at least when you are not close to people. There is a joke that when they use personality tests in my country, they need to change the scoring of the test, otherwise 20% of the population will end up with avoidant personality disorder. It sounds like aspie heaven, right? Except people here are really inexpressive, and when you already have trouble reading body language..........let's say being active but odd is no walk in the park.
Here's a bunch of jokes about Europeans; they're actually pretty spot on:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... neighbours
I've found being a foreigner to be really great up to the point where I started getting good enough at speaking the language to have decent conversations with people; at that point, you've got one more thing to think about on top of trying to figure out social cues, understand the culture and focus on your executive functioning. I liked it more when I could smile pretty and point at things.
What will they think of me? I'm Canadian, but my parents are Ecuadorian. Will I be lumped with Greenlanders, seen as Latin American or just seen as a regular Canadian? I have pale skin and mainly European features, but my eyes look Asian/Native.
Oooops. Sorry. Got you confused with another member. My bad. Generally the Scandinavian countries are not hung up on what you look like so much - the thing with the Greenlanders is a very specific thing having to do with colonialism and evil history - much like Native Americans. It is only an issue in Denmark.
Where I live, they would interrogate you about where your family is from originally. A lot of foreigners interpret this as racism, but the truth is that we do it to each other. What valley you're from, which end of the valley, etc, only a lot of the locating will be automatic based on tiny variations in dialect.
What is happening, though, is a bit of a backlash having to do with immigration, especially from the Middle East. The Danish in particular can be pretty harsh about people speaking Danish, conforming to Danish culture and such. It's really because these countries have been pretty supportive of immigrants, to the point where natives are starting to feel taken advantage of. As a result, people are clinging more to their original culture and being more rigid about it. My analysis, a member of the chattering classes may see this differently.
Also you might feel very socially isolated. I know this sounds funny, but it really takes a long time to get to know people here. People are shy. Then again Canada is not a country of raging extroverts either.
23 Jun 2016, 1:12 am
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