Do they always say your problem is aggressivity?
I was in different therapies in my life, for my social problems, and all the therapists said the same thing: "Being massively rejected and fired from most jobs can only be caused by being aggressive. And aggressivity is caused by childhood trauma.". Then they treated me for supposed aggressivity, going over my childhood in each therapy, for 30 years, without any positive results.
How can it be that I'm the only one this has happened to ???? ! !! !
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No. I'm a gentle and passive person. I've only been angry...two times in my life.
I had a "mark" on my one of my zillion and two records which stated I wasn't always compliant because I didn't want to stay in the mental hostel for another few weeks.
As for work, noncompliance would be the main one, as I just walk away/avoid any conflict with people if something due to my ASD props up.
O, and my psychiatrist said I'm a procrastinator. Personally, I'll only procrastinate when it's something I don't want to do.
yes
they gave me all this medicine that one of the side effects is aggressive and i am not allowed to be different when not on all these medicines
same thing happens when a person smokes crack but at least then people will admit the drug can be the problem and they make excuses about never any problems from prescription medicine just to keep you taking it
Aggression is noted in my file, but it's true because I have autistic meltdowns sporadically. But nobody says that that's my problem and I'm treated for autism and not for aggression.
I had one mad psychiatrist deciding I absolutely had to have childhood trauma as there's no way I could have any form of autism and she was indeed talking about aggression and auto-aggression as an explanation of, like, everything plain obviously autistic. I left right away, how ridiculous to claim stuff like that.
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Sora, maybe you went to therapy for other issues and not rejection. Since I always went for rejection, they always had to come up with a reason why a person is rejected (and that reason seems to be widely accepted to be aggressivity, even though none of them were able to explain to me how come Hitler and Stalin did have friends).
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i get the same excuse of always from some kind of trauma and then they also say they are not able to find proof of any
by blaming problems on trauma even after they say they are not able to find any is only a excuse to find what they want to find and not be willing to look past what they decided when you make your first appointment
they also do this blame thing on things that is actually side effects of medicine
risperdol has a side effect of catatonic and hallucinations and paranoid so when i started to get them after starting that medicine they had added trauma for the black outs and tried to say the hallucinations and paranoid is proof of a mental illness and completely ignore the fact i did not have any of those when not on the medicine and the doctor thinks the side effect list is wrong and can never happen
a different doctor stopped those medicines and the side effects are gone so i guess the side effect list in pocket pill books is not just to sell the book - now to get these stupid doctors to admit side effects do happen
No, but that's more because I'm not very aggressive normally.
I guess I just kinda go the opposite direction. Since I can't read people, instead of being "aggressive" I just kinda back off and end up like a doormat. So some people will say that my problem is actually self-esteem. Sometimes I manage to explain that being confidant in my interpretation of things wouldn't be a positive thing, because I suck at interpreting things. Sometimes, they just continue to assume whatever it was they assumed to begin with.
Ok, this probably wasn't helpful.. *sigh*
Neither am I. Theirs is a theoretical inference from the phenomenon of rejection, not an observation of me.
Jamie, I understand now what you mean about medicine side effects. I'm so glad you went to another doctor! Seems the trick is not to stop changing till someone addresses the real issues.
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I went for diagnosis of AS first when I met that psychiatrist, but yes, exactly, my therapy is an ASD therapy, not a general one or one for another diagnosis.
I really believe that unspecified and traditional therapies or therapies from therapists who don't know lots of about autism don't work for those autistic people who need some help with their autism.
Exactly for the reason you said and experienced so often - those therapists without expereince in autism try to make sense of what you tell them by thinking you're a normal person with temporarily abnormal behaviour, not an autistic person with perfectly normal autistic behaviour.
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I understand what you mean and it's not funny, but it just came out hilarious. Omg, can't stop laughing here! (I'll come back with comments when I've calmed down.)
*chokes*
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I can relate some to that too.
The psychiatrist no. 1 also claimed that she knew AS well and was able to diagnose it correctly and everybody told me to go there at first because they're experienced with autism. They may be with some types of AS/HFA or just with LFA (who knows, the opinion that they're good must stem from something) but they totally failed with me, deciding I didn't have it after one appointment of talking.
The next psychiatry I went to also had good reviews and people said it was a well-experiences place too and they turned out to know lots about different types of autism and the many different presentations of AS and HFA. They did all the in-depth testing and several appointments, also considering differential diagnoses. That was good.
I've come to believe that there are more people who know some about some types of autism and some presentations of AS and HFA, but few that are really specialised in autism (as a general thing) and know lots about it. We definitely need so much more professional aware and able to diagnose autism.
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The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it. Terry Pratchett
The next psychiatry I went to also had good reviews and people said it was a well-experiences place too and they turned out to know lots about different types of autism and the many different presentations of AS and HFA. They did all the in-depth testing and several appointments
That's exactly what happened to me, word by word!
Maybe the first Psychiatrist needed to see someone totally mute and banging their heads on the wall as only communication in order to diagnose them with an ASD. I don't know what this current diagnoser will determine, and the problem is that it's so expensive you can't keep on trying specialists...
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No; the "problem" they peg me with is always anxiety. Apparently, being scared that people are going to mistreat you (when they often do), being scared of not knowing what's going to happen (when you tend to go into a total freeze when unexpected things happen), and being scared that the psychiatrist is going to tell you you are just lazy and lack moral character (when they have) is indicative of some sort of "significant anxiety presentation". Yeah, Dr. Shrink; let's dump you into the ocean without a life jacket and see YOUR "significant anxiety presentation", because that's exactly what I feel like. The anxiety is not the primary problem. If the primary problem could be solved--if I could learn to cope with a world that constantly leaves you totally out of the loop as to what is going on--then there wouldn't be a reason to peg me with every anxiety disorder in the book.
Let's see... which anxiety disorders have I actually had people try to label me with?... Hmm. Well, listing the official diagnoses as well as the suggestions:
Obsessive-compulsive disorder
Agoraphobia
Social anxiety disorder
Generalized anxiety disorder
Panic attacks
PTSD
...hmm. I think that actually covers all the major types of anxiety disorders right there...
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Let's see... which anxiety disorders have I actually had people try to label me with?... Hmm. Well, listing the official diagnoses as well as the suggestions:
Obsessive-compulsive disorder
Agoraphobia
Social anxiety disorder
Generalized anxiety disorder
Panic attacks
PTSD
...hmm. I think that actually covers all the major types of anxiety disorders right there...
i agree with you about what to do to the doctor
i also had this so called autism expert try to say after only 20 minutes that it is not possible and only after she went around telling me and mom and dad and a couple of my other doctors there is no question i have aspergers
this is also the same person that i found out later was only a speech therapist and doctors here still think this is a expert since they are a autism center
a speech therapist is not even qualified to tell you if you need a band aid for a cut so how can they be a expert in autism
i think this is one of those fake centers - the autism version of the anti abortion abortion clinic
In childhood I was often said to have an anger problem, and was in play therapy for it for a short while (my parents took me out after four sessions and never let me in therapy anymore). On my former ward, where I was a patient from Nov '07-Mar '09, my official dx was AS, but the nurses treated me like I had "a behavior disorder", because I can be quite aggressive in meltdowns (only verbally).
As for the child abuse thing, the only therapist who ever suggested this, didn't know abou tmy meltdowns, and suggested it because of some symptosm she interpreted as dissociative.
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