NT Social weaknesses

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Ok, this is the topic which will dispel the myth that neurotypicals have more advanced social skills. I will do this rationally and calmly using brutal cold statistics.

In the United States, 55% of all marriages end in divorce which makes it the third highest divorce rate by percent after the Maldives(59%) and Belarus (57%). So that means Maldivians, Belarussians, and Americans do not communicate well with their partners and have defiencies in interpersonal communication skills. If you loved your partner you will listen to them and allow them freedom of speech.

In the United States, there are 102,000 sucidies a year, which is equivalent to the population of Berkeley, California and is larger then eight sovereign nations in the world (Nauru, Tonga, Tuvalu, Vatican, Monaco, Andorra, Liechtenstein, Marshall Islands). The three highest countries by suicide rate is Lithuania, Belarus and Russia, all former Soviet countries. That means in the former Soviet Union people do not give a damn about each other's feelings. I know this personally because I was born in Russia so I am not making a racist generalization and everytime I go there people are so coldhearted and selfish.

Colombia has the highest murder rate in the world and South Africa has the highest amount of rapes per capita. So that means Colombians can't communicate with one another and South African men think women are worthless. So much for theory of mind and empathy in these countries.

In the United States, 30% of all families are single parent, so assuming there is 102, 897, 182 families in the United States, that means 30, 869, 155 of them are single parent, and of the 102,897, 182 families who exist that means 56,593, 450 are divorced. What does that mean, out of a total population of 307,208,523, that means one in four of them lives or grew up in a family which is divorced. What does that mean? That one in four people in the United States don't know how to sustain a family. That means clearly they lack interpersonal skills.

Ok, so to come to the bottom line what these statistics mean is this
1) Neurotypicals on the whole lack empathy and interpersonal skills in a different way then Aspies.
2.) Lithuanians, Belarussians and Russians have no empathy whatsoever, if there are the three highest countries by sucidie rates
3.) Colombians cannot express their emotions properly
4.) South Africans don't value women
5.) Maldivians, Belarussians and Americans cannot sustain relationships

By the way, I am not making racist biased stereotypes and/or generalizations, these are brutal statistics.

Look them up if you want to. What does it prove? The emperor has no clothes.

You are assuming that mariages fall apart because of lack of communication. Lots of marriages where couples communicate little stay solid til death do they part. Lots of marriages where couples communicated freely nevertheless end in divorce. Listening to somebody and even understanding them does not therefore mean you will stay married to them.





You have jumped to unwarranted conclusions about why people commit suicide



It means no such thing. You are mistaking social skills for social harmony. People with excellent social skills nevertheless will kill each other. They aren't killing each other in Columbia because they don't understand how to get along. They are killing each other in Columbia because murder is part of staying on top in the cocaine trade. Also, when people say "empathy" in the context of "autism impairs empathy", they are talking about the ability to correctly read other people, not empathy in the sense of compassion. It is perfectly possible (and horribly common) to be able to correctly read somebody (empathy) yet not care if they are hurt (lack of compassion empathy). Empathy has two different meanings.





No. It means it takes far more than social skills to sustain a family.

Neurotypicals have excellent empathy with other neurotypicals when "empathy" means ability to guess at the other's motivations. Empathy as compasion? That's in shorter supply. You are confusing the two meanings of the word.
Nope. You didn't prove that. You only proved that the suicide rate is higher.
Properly? Murder in order to control drug trade is not an emotional expression. It's a business strategy.
Lots of sexist societies don't value women. This has nothing to do with social skills and everything to do with values.
You didn't prove that. You only proved that many people get divorced. On the other hand, many other people DON'T get divorced. They don't count?

The statistics are indeed brutal. However, they don't support your claims.

Look them up if you want to. What does it prove? The emperor has no clothes.[/quote][quote]

Attention, everyone (stands, clinks glass with knife)! I will now prove A!

I offer unto thee, hard stats supporting B (which is not A)!
I offer unto thee, harder stats supporting C (which is not A either)!

And now, everyone, a naked emperor!



Therefore A is absolutely true and NTs are universally socially defunct!

Well, good social ability does not necessarily imply social harmony, as someone else has pointed out. I.e. The ability to mislead can be a powerful way to gain personal success. Of course, the "cover story" in society is that social skill is something that is always good and only ever be used for good. Like how people go on about lying being bad when society could not possibly function without it.

I guess I'd say don't believe the societal PR -- social skills have a dark side that's rarely talked about, so being "better" at them is not the end-all "good thing" that it's made out to be. It doesn't make people better; some of most socially skilled people in the world are sociopaths.

You bet. Any skill can be used for good or evil. A skill is value-neutral. An organized crime boss is necessarily extremely good at reading people. How else would he be able to tell who is the police informant? But that won't stop him from killing the guy. An extremely accurate Theory of Mind doesn't necessarily mean you're going to like the other guy. It may simply mean that you can tell with great accuracy when he is about to pull out his gun so that you can pull out yours 10 seconds sooner and shoot him. (All that talk about the high murder rate in Columbia got me thinking along those lines. )

LMAO does the OP even know what the meaning of social skills is?