Conformity and Nonconformity

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1. Is it conformist to want to be like an 'NT'?

2. Is it Nonconformist to hate anyone different to you?

3. Is it Conformist to want to have friends?

4. Is it Nonconformist to stay indoors and ignore the world?

5. Is it Conformist to want to improve your social skills?

6. Is it Nonconformist to have a jaded and askew view of humanity?

7. Is it Conformist to want to live a 'normal' life?

8. Is it Nonconformist to despise any sort of change in the world around you?

9. Is it Conformist to want to improve yourself and extend your boundaries to become a greater person than you already are?

10. Is it Nonconformist to be Vorzac?

Please answer Y/N

I don't really understand how "conformist" or "non-conformist" apply to these questions. And anyway, I'm not comfortable with the idea of "hating" anyone.

well let's first place definitions out

conformist

* marked by convention and conformity to customs or rules or styles; "underneath the radical image teenagers are surprisingly conformist"
* conforming: adhering to established customs or doctrines (especially in religion)
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# nonconformism - nonconformity: a lack of orthodoxy in thoughts or beliefs
# nonconformism - the practice of nonconformity
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yes



depends on the society (e.g. hipsters, emos and whatnot)
no.



yes



yes (in many aspects of western cultures)



yes-neurotypicals LOVE their social BS



depends on the group again



in suburban america, yeah. in lots of places, yes. but then given a 'normal' life is different for all so it applies. the answer is YES



no-many are hating of change (the majority often is content) while the minority wants change-being screwed over. so as an avarage, now.



yes. many people want to do that.



yes. not all are Vorzac.

also see the depending on society/examples.

1. The desire to be more like NTs can be viewed as a sort of conformity.

2. Hating everyone different to you can be viewed as nonconformity. However, hating everyone different to you is not a defining feature of nonconformity.

3. The desire for human social contact is a biological trait inherent in every human being except for a select few, namely certain autistic savants, in which case it wouldn't count as nonconformity because it is not a deliberate choice made by the savants after comparing it to having a social life. It is more subconscious in savants. Nonconformists, on the other hand, deliberately choose to be nonconformists because they have compared it with conforming and have made a conscious, well-thought out decision to be nonconformists. It is a certain degree of rebellion. So, no, it is not conformist to want to have friends.

4. If you choose to stay indoors and ignore the world after considering the alternative and, thus, are rebelling against the world, then yes, it would be nonconformist.

5. Yes, to a certain extent.

6. Yes, to a certain extent.

7. Yes.

8. No, that would be some degree of a symptom of Anti-social Personality disorder.

9. No, that would be absurd to assume that.

10. ....

Agreed. What is the motivation behind these questions? What purpose do they serve?

I don't want to walk around like everybody else
I don't want to live my life like everybody else
I don't want to seek around like everybody else
'Cause I'm not like everybody else
-Camper Van Beethoven

Vorzac: Are asking if they're Assimilationist or Conformist?

I don't want to walk around like everybody else
I don't want to live my life like everybody else
I don't want to seek around like everybody else
'Cause I'm not like everybody else
-Camper Van Beethoven

Vorzac: Are asking if they're Assimilationist or Conformist?

There is no such thing as "nonconformity" or a "nonconformist".
People who claim they are nonconformist are just conforming to some shallow image of "non"-conformity that entails conforming to a number of traits someone else already conforms to.
And, no, it does not make you "non-conformist" to flail around your paper thin "official diagnosis" of social retardation [content removed - M.]

At least one post gets where I'm coming from.

I posted these questions to see how people would respond and their opinions on matter that are important to me

I have asked these questions to myself and wanted to see if the answers of others corroborate what I feel, and how I perceive the mindset of certain people to be.

The results are...interesting.

1. Is it conformist to want to be like an 'NT'?

-Yes in the sense that "normal" is a product of conformity

2. Is it Nonconformist to hate anyone different to you?

-No, since hate is a normalized behavior in modern society the nonconformist action would be to ignore the differences that others try to define themselves by i.e status, money, material.....

3. Is it Conformist to want to have friends?

-No, but it is if one has friends just to mirror or agree with their ideas and lifestyle/consumer choices. Friends should challenge you on all levels and you should be able to challenge them as well

4. Is it Nonconformist to stay indoors and ignore the world?

-No, but its far more nonconformist to go outside and do whatever you want and at the same time ignore everyone and everything...by staying inside conformity will continue

5. Is it Conformist to want to improve your social skills?

-No, but you don't necessarily need to base your life on your social interaction and at best you can see by social interaction with others the type of person you don't want to be

6. Is it Nonconformist to have a jaded and askew view of humanity?

-Yes, but there is no real fixed view of humanity its all open to interpretation and if one doesn't strive for their own interpretation then one is conforming

7. Is it Conformist to want to live a 'normal' life?

-No, but define "normal" just make up your own normal. All creatures want some sense of homeostasis and you're no different define your own normal life, its yours after all...

8. Is it Nonconformist to despise any sort of change in the world around you?

-No, its certainly very conformist to be threatened by change. Not in the sense of routine or other rituals that we all love around here. Being nonconformist means questioning the entire system that we are a part/apart of (pun intended)

9. Is it Conformist to want to improve yourself and extend your boundaries to become a greater person than you already are?

-No, just make sure you are doing it for yourself...if for the others then its very conformist

10. Is it Nonconformist to be Vorzac?

-Yes and that's a good thing

Please answer Y/N

It entirely depends on which group you are trying to conform to. For instance, say it's a group of neurotypical people. You could maybe say that yes, having friends is conforming. If it were a group of people with AS, perhaps the opposite is true.

Basically, you're a non-conformist if you choose how to act and behave based on what you think to be best independently of what everyone else thinks, whereas you're a conformist if you base your behaviour on what you perceive the group thinks to be best.

Eg with no. 3, you're a non-conformist if you want friends because you yourself consider it to be a good thing for you, but you'd be a conformist if the only reason you want friends is because you want to be like everyone else.

Basically, non-conformity is thinking for yourself, and doing things only because you yourself consider them the right course of action, and conformity is letting others do your thinking for you.

I'm a non-conformist to the non-conformist crowd. Know what I mean?

I am tryiong to wrap my head around the idea that someone might want friends merely because they observe that everyone else has friends. To me, that makes about as much sense as deciding that you might as well breathe after all because it looks like everybody else is breathing and you don't want to stick out. I am trying to process this and I just can't.

Yes, becaue you are essentially saying you want to be like 'the crowd' in order to be accpted. What I will say is that I am not implying that this is a bad thing, but it is conformity.



It depends on what difference you are hating them for. If you are a conformist and hate someone simply for not following the crowd, then you are being a conformer. If you hate someone because they differ to you and you decide you don't like that person for whatever reason that is unrelated to conformity, then it's non-conformist, you're just exercising your opinion.



Not at all, it's human nature to want to have friends, as, regardless of the obstacles those on the autistic spectrum may face, deep down, human beings are social beings, hence we generally tend to want to be liked, loved and accepted.



Yes because you are essentially seen to be ignoring/spitting in the face of the 'rat race' world you are deemed to be part of, which is ridiculous and doesn't work for everyone.



No, again, I think this is human nature to want to improve on something you have difficulty with.



No, this seems to be the norm nowadays, but then if the world wasn't so full of idiots, then the answer to this question would probably differ.



It depends on what the definition of 'normal life' is. I am going to assume you mean where things are going your way, you are loved and have enough money to put food on the table etc. If so, then I think this is another case of 'human nature'. Although, those that have so called 'normal lives' also want something else. Again, as part of human nature, we all want something we can't have.



No, I wouldn't say so, but then I wouldn't say it was conforming either, it's personal choice.



No, again your own personal choice, provided you don't feel pressured by society. If you do it because of society pressure than yes it is.



I don't know, that largely depends on your entire personality and the way you think with regards to what you think of society ,what you think society thinks of you and whether you follow 'norms' or not through choice or because you are told to.