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28 Oct 2010, 11:39 pm

I was thinking about the prospect of someday colonizing Mars or the moon. I was trying to predict the populations of the potential colonists, when it occurred to me to think about the people who originally tried to colonize the Americas. Most of them were religious minorities in whichever country they were from, or other persecuted groups.

I wonder, is it possible that there could be an aspie/autistic colony? People on the spectrum compose about 1% of the total population, and that number seems to be growing. Could there one day be a group of autistic people who decide to establish a colony designed especially for people on the spectrum? Could any of you see this happening?


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28 Oct 2010, 11:45 pm

Not in any conceivable time period. The colonists who first settled America had enough local support from people that shared their ideals. We couldn't even mobilize in any significant number with the apparent lack of monetary resources that we have much less afford the land, the transportation costs from earth to the moon and then to colonize it? Most of us probably are not cut out for frontier life.


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29 Oct 2010, 12:09 am

Firstly, nice av pic. I love that movie.

I think Mars would be too cold for my liking and the moon too dull. It's an interesting thought though.


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29 Oct 2010, 12:11 am

I can definitely see something like that happening. I was actually just thinking about something like that two or three days ago. I'm not sure about it happening on another planet, but I can see it happening someday, though not until far in the future.


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29 Oct 2010, 12:16 am

I would help colonize Mars in a second if someone asked me.

I have also worried that people with atypical brains might be prohibited from such a thing, depending on the circumstances.



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29 Oct 2010, 6:02 am

jpfudgeworth wrote:
I would help colonize Mars in a second if someone asked me.

I have also worried that people with atypical brains might be prohibited from such a thing, depending on the circumstances.


well, not if we were the only ones working on the project, and never informing NTs about what kind of selection we were making :P
i sort of like the idea, so whenever we start designing the atmosphere building device and extracting water from wherever it's hiding, give me a call, i'm in :lol:



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29 Oct 2010, 6:12 am

Well the problem is, aspies would not necessarily have aspie kids. in fact chances are they'd have NT kids.



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29 Oct 2010, 6:28 am

donnie_darko wrote:
Well the problem is, aspies would not necessarily have aspie kids. in fact chances are they'd have NT kids.


we're bound to have "some"NT kids after a while....but we'll know better than to call them disabled , right?



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29 Oct 2010, 7:47 am

ChrisVulcan wrote:
I was thinking about the prospect of someday colonizing Mars or the moon. I was trying to predict the populations of the potential colonists, when it occurred to me to think about the people who originally tried to colonize the Americas. Most of them were religious minorities in whichever country they were from, or other persecuted groups.

I wonder, is it possible that there could be an aspie/autistic colony? People on the spectrum compose about 1% of the total population, and that number seems to be growing. Could there one day be a group of autistic people who decide to establish a colony designed especially for people on the spectrum? Could any of you see this happening?


Many Aspies like routine, then they will have difficulty in participating in an expriment like that.

And I am not much sure if Aspies will necessarly go along well with other Aspies (an Aspie obsessed with bulgarian poetry will have patience to listenen other Aspie talking about birds of prey?).



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29 Oct 2010, 7:58 am

ChrisVulcan wrote:
Could there one day be a group of autistic people who decide to establish a colony designed especially for people on the spectrum? Could any of you see this happening?


Why wait for Mars or the Moon? A nice tropical island would suffice.



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29 Oct 2010, 8:06 am

wavefreak58 wrote:
ChrisVulcan wrote:
Could there one day be a group of autistic people who decide to establish a colony designed especially for people on the spectrum? Could any of you see this happening?


Why wait for Mars or the Moon? A nice tropical island would suffice.


true. let's buy one :D



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29 Oct 2010, 8:12 am

ediself wrote:
wavefreak58 wrote:
ChrisVulcan wrote:
Could there one day be a group of autistic people who decide to establish a colony designed especially for people on the spectrum? Could any of you see this happening?


Why wait for Mars or the Moon? A nice tropical island would suffice.


true. let's buy one :D


I'd love to. I can currently afford three grains of sand and one coconut.



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29 Oct 2010, 10:00 am

wavefreak58 wrote:
ediself wrote:
wavefreak58 wrote:
ChrisVulcan wrote:
Could there one day be a group of autistic people who decide to establish a colony designed especially for people on the spectrum? Could any of you see this happening?


Why wait for Mars or the Moon? A nice tropical island would suffice.


true. let's buy one :D


I'd love to. I can currently afford three grains of sand and one coconut.


i'm adding a bucket of water to that, and maybe a couple of birds ( cheap ones).



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29 Oct 2010, 12:16 pm

ChrisVulcan wrote:
I was thinking about the prospect of someday colonizing Mars or the moon. I was trying to predict the populations of the potential colonists, when it occurred to me to think about the people who originally tried to colonize the Americas. Most of them were religious minorities in whichever country they were from, or other persecuted groups.

I wonder, is it possible that there could be an aspie/autistic colony? People on the spectrum compose about 1% of the total population, and that number seems to be growing. Could there one day be a group of autistic people who decide to establish a colony designed especially for people on the spectrum? Could any of you see this happening?


A colonizing population would need some technologically competent people. That would almost certainly bring in Aspies.

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29 Oct 2010, 3:12 pm

just saw this the other day about colonizing mars

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/845478-nasa-in-bid-to-colonise-mars-with-hundred-years-starship-mission


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30 Oct 2010, 12:39 am

Aside from the issues already mentioned, I do not think autism alone could hold people together. What I mean by that is the minority groups used as a comparison by the OP were held together by shared beliefs and ideals whereas this hypothetical colony for people on the spectrum would be based on a shared diagnosis that, while having a profound impact on a person’s view of the world, does not govern one’s moral or political beliefs and standards. I have heard people say people with autism are all very logical and, therefore, would all agree, and society would be entirely peaceful if run by autistics. Even if all autistic people were of the calm logical type, when it comes to the more complex problems of society, everyone's idea of what is logical is different. I am sure one could find an autistic person who thinks a form of socialism is the only logical form of society and find another who thinks believing any form of socialism would work defies logic. It is not that hard to find people, autistic or otherwise, arguing whether or not god exists, both claiming their own view is based on simple logic. A bunch of people with autism may get along well enough to form a support group for autistic people, but they would run into trouble if they tried to form a self-sufficient colony together based only on the fact that they all have autism.


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