Do you like being a cause?

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Does anybody else want to express his opinion?

Ive always liked to have influence but usually to get people to do what I dont want to be seen to be doing. This is mostly because I like to avoid attention directed at myself but still need to be a part of things indirectly. You dont get any rewards for seeing people you influence succeed but I like to see other people happy when they achieve something.

Even causing myself to lose something deliberately and seeing the other person is happy is nice to see but sometimes that person can be a bad winner so you regret that.

I think this has always been the way I learned things. I watch others and influence them to get them to demonstrate to me what might happen if I did what they did.

I do like to see how I do certain things I can make things hapen, like the other day I managed to manipulate something so my brother had to do something. I deal with not talking at some times, but talking and saythings at others, I use tools like acting dumb, not drawing attention, and then there are things were you do the opposite. It is all a puzzle and getting the desired result is the answer you aim for, often it just sims from being lazy.

Hmmm... very interesting post. I'd have to say yes. I do enjoy knowing that I can make things happen if I choose to. Though I have to be careful that I don't engage in fantasy thinking.

In general, people have always been the great human experiment to me. Inside safe places like my home, I love to poke them and pick their brains.

we I like playing RTS games, so yes. Liking to build up fleets, armies, solar empires, etc. is FUN.

Though hmm...yes I remember thinking a LOT when I was younger about thinking I pissed everyone off and they're after me, and I have to fight them all or rebel or hide from them in guerilla warfare s**t or classic fugitive stuff; maybe to impress people I like



like when people are paranoid when something happens because it scares them s**tless (normally things loud), so they do it themselves.themselves. k.

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(I am necromancing my old threads deserving a couple of new opinions being added )

Whew. Reading these responses and thinking about all of this have set my mind to spinning!

Overall, my ideal sense of accomplishment in life would be something very close to having done what makuranososhi has said:

I like to see the light bulb come on - that is the best reason for doing it. I liken my approach to dropping one's oar in the water as a rudder ... subtle influence by steering far ahead of the course. Seeing the results of the influence [is something I enjoy], but it isn't an ego-centric experience.

However, such efforts never really seem to produce any lasting effect as far as I can tell ... and I can only speculate as to why.

I MUST be the cause or I have no interest in it.

I like science, and that's all about "What cause matches what effect?" Using that information, we build models of the way the world works.

I think with your cause-and-effect thing, it is a lot like experimenting. It's not just scientists that do it, either. You see very small babies doing it very openly and gleefully, dropping things to see them fall and squishing things to feel them squish, cooing at Mom to hear her respond. I think our brains must be wired to learn that way. We get pleasure just from doing something and seeing the effects.

old topic,wonder what ever happened to warsie?

Zombie thread!

But... I am always game for an interesting question, if not mentally tired that is.

I do frequently conceive of things I might bring into being. A change in the landscape, a remodeling of a feature in the house, a art or craft project. There is a lot of enjoyment in that whole process, from concept to doing the work, to having a good feeling viewing the result (if it came out ok).

Er... why did you bump such an old topic? It's years old, you could have started a new one...