Am I the only one who don't want a job?
Tollorin
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Am I the only in the Universe like this? In WP I read sometimes complaining about not been able to find a job. And for me, I don't want a job. Working bore me A LOT. At least in school I was learning things and the differents subjects give some variety, I could manage the work. But a job.... In true I don't see any job that could interessing enough for not be boring and that is in my reach. Welfare give enough for surviving. It's not a lot, but is still better that had to work. I will not say I'm happy, but I certainly can't find happyness in work. Everyone want to work, except me. WHY!? Am I the only one like this?
Last edited by Tollorin on 21 Oct 2009, 11:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I'm the same way. I used to have a job, a very good one, but eventually it became too much for me, and I kept thinking about what I was working for. I became burnt out on that career (I.T.), with no friends, no mate, no prospects, and uninterested in anything my money could buy me. I quit, and eventually moved back home.
The only reason I had that good job was because it had been interesting work for me, and I could make my own hours. I only found it because I realized I hated working at the same time the tech bubble was at its peak. I didn't even need a post high school education.
I know everybody hates working, but I think it's different when you have nothing to work for. Sure, their is working to survive, but that's not valid for me. I'd just want to be dead instead.
I used to work those jobs, but the depths of the depression that resulted were horrible. I'd rather starve to death. I'm not as young as I used to be, so now I have even less energy.
I've found new interests as I've aged, but nothing I've become good enough at to be paid for. I should get back into I.T. but I can't bring myself to do it.
It really would be nice to have the option of not having a job.. like, if it didn't cost so much to just exist. D:
I guess I'm trying to find one just out of guilt right now.
I mean, I'm sure I'd be happy at certain jobs, but it would be really nice not to have the obligation to always have one or be looking for one.
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Bataar wrote:
[/quote]That's pretty much how I am. When I was growing up and going to school, I could never think of anything I wanted to be. It sucked because then I had no motivation to do well in school. I can't stand my current job but still don't know what I'd want to do.[quote]
Same here, but it occurs to me the vast number of people who don't even think about it. They just get their cashier jobs and settle into the groove. Not to knock cashiers, I've been one and I know it's no picnic working with the general public.
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Foe me, it's a little different. I don't have a job and i don't want a job. There are three reasons. First, it's just overwhelming to think about. Meeting new people AND learning a new job. Ack! Second, most likely i would get a retail job, in which i have never had before. I would have to deal with the public. Ugh! And third, i am so afraid i am gonna miss something, like taking the kids to their karate class and not being able to watch the moves to help my son practice at home, or missing an iep meeting of one of theirs, or missing a dr appointment of theirs or having bf's mom watch the kids which i am fully against because she refuses to believe my son's issues. Someone like that, i'd rather make sure i am there for them than having a job. Then there's scheduling issues...i get overwhelmed when the week is filled with something to do. How the heck could i function when adding a job to that week?!
I do need to get one though. My son will possibly need braces and karate's going WAY up. My dream job...to be a stay at home mom while making money at home. Still looking for options to make that come true. Bf won't work either, but for him it's other reasons. He does make a living at home. It gets us by, but we need more if we wanna do more.
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lilacroft
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I'm not really interested in getting a job.
Ideally I'd love to be a published author/writer, or a proofreader, except i don't relly wanna learn the symbols cos they look messy.
I hate being forced into doing things I relly don't wanna do, and any job I've had I've hated.
I've done a bit of voluntary work, but the benefit of that is that you know you can leave at any time with only minor repurcussions.
I'm currently on another pointless jobcentre-forced course that's supposed to help me find a job. this is my second time on it. i don't think it works.
The job centre are always making life difficult with us because if we don't want a job or try to get one they throw a huge wobbler and stop our benefits, which is so unfair.
I'm actually starting to look into Incapacity Benefit, or whatever they've updated to, so I don't have to work.
The question that bugs me is, does having Asperger's and ADD count as a disability according to their requirements, or can I use the fact I have tendonitis in almost every joint as a reason too?
Go to http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... 2620&ps=rs. Fast forward to 29:30. This interview is from 2004. I'm not sure if "special services" would include disability support.
Lilacroft, I have just applied for, amd received ESA which is the new form of Incapacity Benefit - my doctor is very supportive, I am medically certified with 'anxiety and depression' at the moment, but I have a whole range of sensory issues and asthma as well...I will have to fill out a form asking about my symptoms etc, and possibly go for a medical, but there seems to be no problem with them accepting 'Autistic Spectrum Condition' which is what I told the DSS when I applied.
I am classified as HFA rather than Aspergers, with OCPD and PTSD. You receive the same as JSA for 13 weeks I think, £64, then if 'signed off' long term get a higher rate, I forget what.
Hope this helps. I couldn't cope with jobseeker courses/interviews etc...major shutdown!
Me too.....I can understand people wanting the salary, but not the prison sentence that goes with it.
Working conditions are largely outside my control - I can't easily change my working hours, remove myself from distractions, govern my own workload, or avoid difficult people, even the room temperature is determined by somebody else, and of course they get it wrong. How can anybody ever grow to enjoy that?
Then there's the ever-present fear of losing your livelihood if you don't happen to make the boss happy - they can keep the actual job of course, but we all need money to live, and let's face it, benefits aren't enough to live on, even if you can get them. I think they deliberately make claiming as difficult and uncomfortable as they dare to, so people don't get tempted to use it as a way of avoiding a lifetime of wage-slavery.
I feel sorry for those people who don't know what to do with themselves when they're retired. It must be awful to have so little independence of mind that they can't do anything without being told to. Give me a reasonable, reliable income and my freedom, and I think you'd see a happier man by far. I also suspect that I'd end up doing a lot more social good, rather than being forced to merely enhance the pockets and the status of the elite.
A relative of mine has a cushy job, high up in the Civil Service, and is now working just 3 days a week as a prelude to his retirement in about 5 years time. He says he never realised what he'd been missing, and that it's great to have lots of spare time to relax and to get things done. Of course he's one of the lucky few. Most public service jobs don't provide anything so good, though those in the private sector often seem to think that the public sector is one big gravy train for the work-shy.
So I'm still saving hard and hoping to get out of the world of work as soon as I can afford to - unfortunately the politicians are about to delay our State pensions so that those cavalier bankers can be rewarded for bringing on the recession, then there'll be price hikes on food and fuel, wage freezes and cuts, service cuts, tax rises.......I just hope I'll still have some life left in me by the time I dare to jump ship.
I'm sure a lot of my attitude is down to my Aspie traits - the average workplace isn't likely to be a healthy place for an Aspie. It'd be good if there were more jobs where they just gave out clear instructions and let the workers get on with it, but employers seem to prefer to bang on about how great it is to "embrace change" (yeuk!), to be "flexible," and to multi-task. I don't get how a society that's so often criticised for worshipping individuality can go around hammering ordinary people into uncomfortable "one-size-fits-all" moulds the way it does.
So is it that you don't want a job, or you don't want a boring job? Aspies seem to have a tendency to cope with things by focusing and thinking about things, probably partially to avoid having to deal with so much social crap. The thing is that most low-level jobs require you to interact with people but not to think much about what you're doing. That's the exact opposite of the kind of job an aspie would need.
I don't want to have a job in the sense that I don't want to work for anyone else. I'm perfectly fine with the thought of being my own boss, but I could never have someone else tell me what to do. So I'll probably end up self-employed.
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Why would anyone want a job? How about self respect? Why do you expect others to support you because you find most work boring and unsatisfying? Welcome to the real world. There are times when all of us (NT's included) have to do things we don't want to do. It's called being a grown up. That doesn't mean you have to like or to do it forever but why should anyone else have to pay (through their tax dollars) for your chosen lifestyle?
I'm sorry if I'm coming off a bit harsh here but really, it's unfair to ask the rest of us to support someones lack of ambition. I guess what I'm saying is if that's what floats your boat, fine, but do it on your dime, not ours.
I'm sorry if I'm coming off a bit harsh here but really, it's unfair to ask the rest of us to support someones lack of ambition. I guess what I'm saying is if that's what floats your boat, fine, but do it on your dime, not ours.
Some truth in that, but if everybody just knuckled under, I think the only effect would be that the elite would have an even bigger advantage over us than they already do. Resistance is important. The government would love it if they could force everybody off benefits and into poorly-paid jobs with long hours, but I believe that there are many jobs that no self-respecting person should do. Sure, the total benefits bill is large (although the individual receives only a pittance), but even if it were reduced to zero, I'll wager ordinary working people wouldn't get any of that money. Let's face it, if the free market could deliver enough work to go round, the benefits bill wouldn't be an issue. But high unemployment works in the bosses' interests, because it creates a buyers market for jobs in which the worker has no negotiating power. So tougher benefit rules actually force wages down. All the talk of work ethics is hypocritical, because the elite have no intentions of behaving ethically themselves.
A great deal hinges on what is considered to be an acceptable job, and in my view governments and capitalists set the threshold way too low, so they can make more money out of us. Typically you can sign up for what looks like a reasonable job only to find that they move the goalposts after the fact, gradually eroding pay and conditions - the postal workers are currently learning the truth of that, but all we hear is that they're selfishly and stupidly refusing to accept "modernisation" - an offensive euphemism for being screwed.
With me it's not the work itself that bothers me, it's the demeaning conditions that seem to accompany most jobs, the exploitation, the bullying, being under the control of somebody else. When I was unemployed for a few months, I felt no guilt at all, though if I'd really wanted to find work I could probably have just gone for a crummy little MacJob. I've paid plenty into National Insurance over my working life, far more than I'll ever get back again, but they still treated me as if I were living on charity. I noticed a gradually-increasing pressure to lower my expectations of job quality, which amounts to de-skilling.
Come on, that's not what we're talking about here. : ). We're talking about people not wanting to have a job because they think it's boring, unimportant or beneath them, not because they are fighting "the man" or "the system". : ) And that's all well and good, just don't ask me to pay for it while someone sits around playing video games thinking about how much more important they are than everyone else.
BTW. I'm not talking about someone getting assistance while they are between jobs or whatever. Stuff happens. I'm talking about people who thinks the world owes them a living. Not on my dime mate. Cheers. : )
I'm sorry if I'm coming off a bit harsh here but really, it's unfair to ask the rest of us to support someones lack of ambition. I guess what I'm saying is if that's what floats your boat, fine, but do it on your dime, not ours.
Some truth in that, but if everybody just knuckled under, I think the only effect would be that the elite would have an even bigger advantage over us than they already do. Resistance is important. The government would love it if they could force everybody off benefits and into poorly-paid jobs with long hours, but I believe that there are many jobs that no self-respecting person should do. Sure, the total benefits bill is large (although the individual receives only a pittance), but even if it were reduced to zero, I'll wager ordinary working people wouldn't get any of that money. Let's face it, if the free market could deliver enough work to go round, the benefits bill wouldn't be an issue. But high unemployment works in the bosses' interests, because it creates a buyers market for jobs in which the worker has no negotiating power. So tougher benefit rules actually force wages down. All the talk of work ethics is hypocritical, because the elite have no intentions of behaving ethically themselves.
A great deal hinges on what is considered to be an acceptable job, and in my view governments and capitalists set the threshold way too low, so they can make more money out of us. Typically you can sign up for what looks like a reasonable job only to find that they move the goalposts after the fact, gradually eroding pay and conditions - the postal workers are currently learning the truth of that, but all we hear is that they're selfishly and stupidly refusing to accept "modernisation" - an offensive euphemism for being screwed.
With me it's not the work itself that bothers me, it's the demeaning conditions that seem to accompany most jobs, the exploitation, the bullying, being under the control of somebody else. When I was unemployed for a few months, I felt no guilt at all, though if I'd really wanted to find work I could probably have just gone for a crummy little MacJob. I've paid plenty into National Insurance over my working life, far more than I'll ever get back again, but they still treated me as if I were living on charity. I noticed a gradually-increasing pressure to lower my expectations of job quality, which amounts to de-skilling.