My theory on aspies and BAP parents...

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Recently I've noticed something peculiar about my parents.
My mom is very sensitive in terms of social interaction and sensory perception. She is very rigid in her ways and inflexible. But she socializes well and has a large group of friends and acquaintances. My dad on the other hand prefers not to spend too much time with people. He is socially insensitive (but more sensitive than me ). He's a history addict, has hundreds of books on history.
And me, I have Asperger's while they...do not...? (not sure about my dad though, he's aspie-ish.) So my guess would be that I got these traits from them, fit together like two puzzle pieces and wham, ASD!
What do you think?
Edit: BAP stands for broader autism phenotype, this means someone who's on the mildest end of the spectrum, has autistic traits but does not qualify for an ASD diagnosis

Last edited by jamieevren1210 on 07 Jun 2013, 11:22 am, edited 1 time in total.

..." BAP " is ???????

Broader Autistic Phenotype. People who have autistic traits but who are clearly not impaired enough to be diagnosed with any kind of autism.

...Thank you .
There's a jokey American meaning that is probably more than a SLIGHT bit non-PC ! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!

Yep, your theory is the one a lot of experts hold. Autism is genetic, and people in the family line of an autistic often have subclinical autistic traits themselves.

My father had enough traits that he went through testing the same time as I did. He didn't qualify for a diagnosis, but would very likely to be considered BAP.

After incident that happened at a restaurant my parents ate at, she decided he has Asperger's. He does have social skills of a midget mom describes his as. But he doesn't have enough for a diagnoses, I see no repetitive behavior in him. He has ADHD so I notice the fidgeting he does. My husband thinks he has it but I don't think so. He noticed we are both lot alike and notices the similarities between us.

"Black American Princess" ofcourse!

Both of his parents are Black American princesses!

Jeeze!

Doncha know that you are required to have telepathy and be able to read minds when you join wrongplanet? No body EVER reveals the secret meanings of acronyms here because every time you reveal the meaning of acronym an angel dies!

But in all seriousness:

Two suggestions

For members: It wouldnt kill you if you state what an acronym means to us readers. Just one time in your first paragraph or your original post. Dont have to again in the whole thread.

For the site creators: There oughtta be a spot on the home page here that links you to a wrongplanet glossory of frequently used phrases here, and general aspiespeak. That way newcomers (and veteran members who dont know all the latest lingo) can learn what an "NT" is, and what "PDD" is, and even what a "dx" is, and so forth.

Just a couple of thoughts.

^Thanks for pointing that out. I fixed it.
And...I'm Asian and...not a dude. My dad is also male XD
Just sayin'

...I was just pointing out that other meaning of " BAP " , no , I didn't think that someone in Taiwan would likely have Halley berry or Wendy O. Williams for his dad , I was just pointing out the acronym meaning I knew .
FTM , " BAP " is dervived from - You know this , you Yank right ??????? - " JAP " , for " Jewish American Princess " , whichwas the basist for a lotta - proabably MORE " non-PC " than " BAP " - jokes in the 60s and 70s !














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"Black American Princess" ofcourse!

Both of his parents are Black American princesses!

Jeeze!

Doncha know that you are required to have telepathy and be able to read minds when you join wrongplanet? No body EVER reveals the secret meanings of acronyms here because every time you reveal the meaning of acronym an angel dies!

But in all seriousness:

Two suggestions

For members: It wouldnt kill you if you state what an acronym means to us readers. Just one time in your first paragraph or your original post. Dont have to again in the whole thread.

For the site creators: There oughtta be a spot on the home page here that links you to a wrongplanet glossory of frequently used phrases here, and general aspiespeak. That way newcomers (and veteran members who dont know all the latest lingo) can learn what an "NT" is, and what "PDD" is, and even what a "dx" is, and so forth.

Just a couple of thoughts.[/quote]

Yes, autism is caused by many genes. So your parents might each have some of the genes and therefore some of the traits (phenotype) for autism. The genes combine with the right other genes and possibly interact with some pre-natal or perinatal environmental factors and they make an autistic child. This is the theory that experts have.

My parents both have traits too. My mum has major sensory issues, tactile, and she's really introverted and socially anxious. My dad goes on and on about his interests and doesn't realize when people aren't listening and does socially inappropriate things sometimes. My mum thinks he'd be diagnosable, actually.

My parents are exactly like the OP's only it's natural remedies for my Dad, not history.

I have a more radical theory. I think the reason for diagnosis is not genetic at all, but grounded in a bad environment with discrimination and social exclusion. Since this is a recent phenomena, our parents didn't fare as bad as us, and our children fare even worse. Thus, one can say that ASD diagnosis is BAP + bad environment.

But many autistics have stranger genes than their parents, with de novo mutations.

I'd wager most autistics experience/d discrimination and social exclusion because they are autistic. So if you don't want to involve time travel...
If all BAPs had as sensitive senses as us, they would have all the issues that comes with that.
I do think a few characteristics that are regarded "autistic" come from being so different and/or being mistreated, or being told that being you is unacceptable. Almost no one speaks of what that does to a person. But there are many that have faced the average amount of hardship in their life, and they are still autistic though all NTs are not.

That's an articfact of doing research on both ASD and mental retardation. Such research gives no clue if these de novo mutations in fact are the cause of mental retardation or neurodiversity traits.



I disagree. It is possible for parents to create a safe, Aspie-friendly place at home, and I expect this to create a much better outcome even if these children face discrimination in the rest of society. In fact, my experience with two now adult children that are in the lower functioning region, but have no psychological issues, tells me this is so.



If parents accept children as they are this would be enough for the child to think it is acceptable, even if others disagree.

Ah good point with the de novo mutations, I always forget that aspect. I don't know what you mean by psychological problems, but people can be "low-functioning" but still not very autistic. People long thought intelligence and NTness went hand in hand, on now it turns out they were wrong.
But you are basically arguing that autism is BAP+mistreatment. If autism exists without mistreatment, and before mistreatment, then it is incorrect. Stress do make our differences more noticeable, so I guess if you were in a very stressfree controlled enviorement, then you would not have any of the "suffering" people always accuse autistics of.