Do you wish everyone in the world had AS?

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Do you wish everyone had AS?
Yes 36%  36%  [ 19 ]
No 57%  57%  [ 30 ]
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14 Dec 2009, 6:40 pm

I remember the thread here about what if everyone in the world had AS, now I am asking do you wish everyone in the world had it.

My husband and I had this discussion. I asked him if he wished everyone in the world had AS and he said no. I asked him why and he said the world wouldn't go forward because everyone would be too obsessed and be focused on one thing. I said what if everyone were at the same level as me and he said the world be cold hearted and less empathetic. I told him it already is because of war and crime, bullies, jerks and he said it be worse. Then he added some humor like "Everyone would like baseball" "Everyone would be watching A League of Their Own" and then I said "Everyone would be throwing cell phones" and then he said he tells everyone to "calm down" and oh boy look at all those cell phones being thrown at him. Then I said no would be telling each other to calm down. This whole discussion was funny.


I still wish everyone in the world had AS at the same level as me. Not moderate or severe. Just mild.
I should be wishing the opposite on "I wish no one in the world had it, even me" but instead it's "I wish everyone had mild AS." In fact I used to wish no one in the world had it, including me so no one wouldn't have to suffer and have a hard life but then I realize if everyone had it, no one would be suffering because they would all share the same condition. Not every aspie is the same so they would all have their own strengths and weaknesses just like none AS people do and we have all learned to adapt in life and cope, so everyone still would if they had it. Hey even none aspies have hard lives and also suffer.



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14 Dec 2009, 6:46 pm

Yes, everyone would understand me a lot better, there'd be no problems socialising, technology would progress faster, the world would be more logical, and I might actually be able to find a girlfriend :P

I also think that if everyone is focused on one thing, and everyone has AS, we'll have loads of people focused on their own thing and those things would be done very well :)



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14 Dec 2009, 6:52 pm

No I don't, the world would be utter chaos :lol:
It would be like some sort of sitcom where every character is sheldon and everyone would just be all anti social and obsessive and so hilarity will ensue. Oh and noise and tshirt labels will be outlawed since any of things will cause mass meltdowns and whole streets will go into shouty, pouty, screamy mayhem.
Quite a funny thought actually, but still no.


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14 Dec 2009, 7:07 pm

It would still be a world full of humans. Maybe a bit different, but still... A crappy world filled with violence, anger, hate, suffering just like this world. And I don't think I would fit in it, either.



14 Dec 2009, 7:08 pm

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No I don't, the world would be utter chaos :lol:
It would be like some sort of sitcom where every character is sheldon and everyone would just be all anti social and obsessive and so hilarity will ensue. Oh and noise and tshirt labels will be outlawed since any of things will cause mass meltdowns and whole streets will go into shouty, pouty, screamy mayhem.
Quite a funny thought actually, but still no.



Or everyone is screaming at each other over facts about being right and the other one is wrong and both people are screaming at each other and melting down because the other person is being stupid by arguing over a fact he or she is wrong about and the other person is right. :lol:

Well they can work on that fault.



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14 Dec 2009, 7:16 pm

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MONKEY wrote:
No I don't, the world would be utter chaos :lol:
It would be like some sort of sitcom where every character is sheldon and everyone would just be all anti social and obsessive and so hilarity will ensue. Oh and noise and tshirt labels will be outlawed since any of things will cause mass meltdowns and whole streets will go into shouty, pouty, screamy mayhem.
Quite a funny thought actually, but still no.



Or everyone is screaming at each other over facts about being right and the other one is wrong and both people are screaming at each other and melting down because the other person is being stupid by arguing over a fact he or she is wrong about and the other person is right. :lol:

Well they can work on that fault.


:lmao: it's an all too familiar scenario in my family, although I'm usually the one that ends up screaming. I have mental images now of some riot forming over something stupid like the official release date of an obscure film or the amount of molecules in an apple.


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14 Dec 2009, 7:18 pm

I feel so jelous over NT guys who have girlfriends. I wish they could know what it's like to struggle in that department. I also get tired of NT's who try to help me deal with Asperger's, even though they don't know what they are talking about.



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14 Dec 2009, 7:26 pm

Hell no. : ). And as far as the fantasy scenario that if everyone had AS then everyone would understand each other and they would get along....seriously, what are you smoking?

If you think trying to deal w/a world full of NT's, who have a bit of the ability to roll with the punches and make adjustments along the way is hard, can you even imagine what it would be like trying to deal w/a world filled w/people who cannot see another persons point of view, hate changes in schedule or routine and have serious sensory issues? And lets not forget, each aspie is a unique individual, with special likes, dislikes and routines.

Again, hell no. : )



14 Dec 2009, 7:29 pm

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Spokane_Girl wrote:
MONKEY wrote:
No I don't, the world would be utter chaos :lol:
It would be like some sort of sitcom where every character is sheldon and everyone would just be all anti social and obsessive and so hilarity will ensue. Oh and noise and tshirt labels will be outlawed since any of things will cause mass meltdowns and whole streets will go into shouty, pouty, screamy mayhem.
Quite a funny thought actually, but still no.



Or everyone is screaming at each other over facts about being right and the other one is wrong and both people are screaming at each other and melting down because the other person is being stupid by arguing over a fact he or she is wrong about and the other person is right. :lol:

Well they can work on that fault.


:lmao: it's an all too familiar scenario in my family, although I'm usually the one that ends up screaming. I have mental images now of some riot forming over something stupid like the official release date of an obscure film or the amount of molecules in an apple.



My husband and I just had an arguement over when I was in a car accident. He kept saying I was living at my aunt and uncle's then but I was saying we were living here and it was November 2007. Then I started shouting at him because he was being stupid by arguing about it and he was wrong. Then he stopped when he realized I was right.

About the movie release date thing, they can tell each other to go look it up on IMDB to prove to each other they're right.



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14 Dec 2009, 7:33 pm

Yes, just like how I want everyone to be a white anglo saxon heterosexual who's favorite color is taupe.

So, no, the world needs both of us, and a lot more than just ASD and NT. We need persons of all types, of both physical and mental states. Having the world full of ASDs would give it a whole lot less diversity than it deserves.


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14 Dec 2009, 7:38 pm

No. The world requires neurodiversity to function, just as an ecosystem requires consumers and producers.

Your huzzy has a great point, though - progress would be slow or stagnant, deadlines would likely be set very late, it would be extremely difficult to get any sort of customer service or technical support.

I like imagining what the world might be like for an NT if everyone had AS. You go into the doctor's office, and instead of asking you how she could help, the receptionist just glances at you, then goes back to stimming. When you finally get her attention, she responds angrily, and says she'll go get the doctor. You sit down in a waiting room full of people on their laptops, and no one is talking. You try to start a conversation with the person next to you, only to be met with monosyllabic answers. You try to start a conversation with the person on your other side, and he just moves into the next seat down without saying a word. Three hours later, the 40 year old doctor emerges, wearing a helicopter beanie, and apologizes, explaining that he was playing his daily video games.

During your checkup, the doctor attempts to hit your kneecap with that hammer, and misses 5 times, giving you bruises all over your leg and thigh. Whenever you ask the doctor a question, he first taps his head against the wall for 5 seconds or so, then answers. When the checkup is over, you spend two minutes at the receptionist's desk waiting for her to finish rocking back and forth, get your next appointment time, then leave.

So you decide to go to the bar. The volume on the music is so low you can hardly hear it, but through the low rumble of chatter, you make out the lyrics to a certain Gary Numan song. You ask the bartender for an Old Fashioned. He says "We don't have those, but our special tonight is the 'Aspie Affection.'" You ask what it is, and he explains that it's 6(!) shots of Crown Royal mixed with 4 oz. grape juice, with a smidge of salt and peach schnapps. "It'll really make ya affectionate!" he jokes. You order one and take a sip. You look around the bar for single women, but for some reason, there are 8 times as many men as there are women in the bar, so each woman is already well-surrounded. You finish your Aspie Affection, pay, and walk out.

"I should get home" you think, feeling a little tipsy, "it's getting late." You ask a man passing on the street "Do you know the time?" He glances at his watch, says "Yes," and continues walking. You shrug. Fortunately the streets are clear, and you think to yourself how there's not much, if any, traffic. In fact, the majority of the houses don't even have cars in their driveways! It seems like everyone walks where they need to go. Looking around at the sparse people walking, you notice that many of them have a 'unique' fashion sense. You see one woman with red dots on her cheeks, wearing a multicolored sundress. You see a few men wearing cargo pants with hiking shoes. One is wearing a kilt. A kilt!

While walking home, you accidentally stumble into a very large man. He becomes somewhat confrontational, and you say "Damn, why do you have to have such a chip on your shoulder?" He looks at his right shoulder, then his left, then at the ground around him while you scuttle away. When you arrive home, you see your neighbor in his yard staring at the sky and taking notes. "Hey buddy!" you yell from your front door, "what are you doing?" "Well," he responds, still gazing at the sky,"the meteor N397 recently passed the galaxy perpendicular to the Milky Way and managed to defy the laws of astronomy by not falling to the heat of friction and this means that there must be some way that meteors in other galaxies such as NGC4414 which is 60 million light years from us must have special properties that Einstein never predic--" You shut the door, figuring you're drunk and must be imagining things, flop on the couch, and sleep.



14 Dec 2009, 7:50 pm

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Hell no. : ). And as far as the fantasy scenario that if everyone had AS then everyone would understand each other and they would get along....seriously, what are you smoking?

If you think trying to deal w/a world full of NT's, who have a bit of the ability to roll with the punches and make adjustments along the way is hard, can you even imagine what it would be like trying to deal w/a world filled w/people who cannot see another persons point of view, hate changes in schedule or routine and have serious sensory issues? And lets not forget, each aspie is a unique individual, with special likes, dislikes and routines.

Again, hell no. : )



I don't smoke. I posted this thread for attention. I wanted to see what people would say. I'm open for disagreements.


Every aspie is different. My sensory issues are mild so I don't have much and there are some aspies who have none. I'm pretty flexible because I've learned and I do good with peoples point of views. It takes an open mind to listen. So all aspies would learn to cope and adapt in life. And maybe things would be different in life. No fluorescent lights or they all have dark shades over them. Less scent in perfume, lot more people would be wearing ear plugs. There be more online shopping, etc. Life be different. There still be stores because not all aspies have issues with crowds and some are able to deal with them without melting down.

Not all aspie is the same because we're not clones. Not all of them are sensitive to the same stuff and have the same weaknesses and not all of them are inflexible. You act like we're all the same.

BTW what's with the : ) ?



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14 Dec 2009, 7:51 pm

I feel that we need all kinds of people in this world. Not just Aspies or NTs. We need people with all kinds of minds to make the world run smoothly.


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14 Dec 2009, 8:04 pm

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No. The world requires neurodiversity to function, just as an ecosystem requires consumers and producers.

Your huzzy has a great point, though - progress would be slow or stagnant, deadlines would likely be set very late, it would be extremely difficult to get any sort of customer service or technical support.

I like imagining what the world might be like for an NT if everyone had AS. You go into the doctor's office, and instead of asking you how she could help, the receptionist just glances at you, then goes back to stimming. When you finally get her attention, she responds angrily, and says she'll go get the doctor. You sit down in a waiting room full of people on their laptops, and no one is talking. You try to start a conversation with the person next to you, only to be met with monosyllabic answers. You try to start a conversation with the person on your other side, and he just moves into the next seat down without saying a word. Three hours later, the 40 year old doctor emerges, wearing a helicopter beanie, and apologizes, explaining that he was playing his daily video games.

During your checkup, the doctor attempts to hit your kneecap with that hammer, and misses 5 times, giving you bruises all over your leg and thigh. Whenever you ask the doctor a question, he first taps his head against the wall for 5 seconds or so, then answers. When the checkup is over, you spend two minutes at the receptionist's desk waiting for her to finish rocking back and forth, get your next appointment time, then leave.

So you decide to go to the bar. The volume on the music is so low you can hardly hear it, but through the low rumble of chatter, you make out the lyrics to a certain Gary Numan song. You ask the bartender for an Old Fashioned. He says "We don't have those, but our special tonight is the 'Aspie Affection.'" You ask what it is, and he explains that it's 6(!) shots of Crown Royal mixed with 4 oz. grape juice, with a smidge of salt and peach schnapps. "It'll really make ya affectionate!" he jokes. You order one and take a sip. You look around the bar for single women, but for some reason, there are 8 times as many men as there are women in the bar, so each woman is already well-surrounded. You finish your Aspie Affection, pay, and walk out.

"I should get home" you think, feeling a little tipsy, "it's getting late." You ask a man passing on the street "Do you know the time?" He glances at his watch, says "Yes," and continues walking. You shrug. Fortunately the streets are clear, and you think to yourself how there's not much, if any, traffic. In fact, the majority of the houses don't even have cars in their driveways! It seems like everyone walks where they need to go. Looking around at the sparse people walking, you notice that many of them have a 'unique' fashion sense. You see one woman with red dots on her cheeks, wearing a multicolored sundress. You see a few men wearing cargo pants with hiking shoes. One is wearing a kilt. A kilt!

While walking home, you accidentally stumble into a very large man. He becomes somewhat confrontational, and you say "Damn, why do you have to have such a chip on your shoulder?" He looks at his right shoulder, then his left, then at the ground around him while you scuttle away. When you arrive home, you see your neighbor in his yard staring at the sky and taking notes. "Hey buddy!" you yell from your front door, "what are you doing?" "Well," he responds, still gazing at the sky,"the meteor N397 recently passed the galaxy perpendicular to the Milky Way and managed to defy the laws of astronomy by not falling to the heat of friction and this means that there must be some way that meteors in other galaxies such as NGC4414 which is 60 million light years from us must have special properties that Einstein never predic--" You shut the door, figuring you're drunk and must be imagining things, flop on the couch, and sleep.



:lmao:


Well I am sure not like that so I know not all aspies are. I do my job and I know my work would be more important than my obsessions and interests and they are at home waiting for me, same as when I am expecting people coming in and needing me. Yeah I'm guilty not talking to people but if they talk to me, I speak.
I think there be more public transportation and who cares what people wear. I wear whatever I want and if I could, I'd be wearing my Halloween costumes out in public when it isn't even Halloween. I'd be wearing my pajamas out in public too. I have on pajama day when I was in school.

And people would be asking "What time is it?"

Oh yeah I have gone to aspie groups here and they do speak to each other having regular conversations and this one woman there said "Hey we aren't supposed to be having a normal conversation" and I thought that was funny. She was joking of course. I am one of the people there who doesn't speak unless I am spoken too but some others just talk during the breaks.



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14 Dec 2009, 8:08 pm

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Yes, everyone would understand me a lot better, there'd be no problems socialising, technology would progress faster, the world would be more logical, and I might actually be able to find a girlfriend :P

I also think that if everyone is focused on one thing, and everyone has AS, we'll have loads of people focused on their own thing and those things would be done very well :)


To be understood would be the best thing about having everyone have AS.

Though my concern is...what if everyone with AS is already having trouble understanding OTHER PEOPLE with AS? I'm more forgiving towards other AS people out of compassion but that does not mean I ever understand them anymore than they would understand me. Logically I think this would worsen the problem of communication and understanding between us and might increase antagonism, social isolation and the like. Most of us might never communicate properly and I think that could have negative effects on society if EVERYONE were like this. Plus the whole obsessions thing.

I know people say that it would be a better world if everyone in the world were smart. Honestly, I dunno what is wrong with having a mix of dumb and naive people. Sometimes I envy them depending on the situation and sometimes I even feel bad that they get so much sh*t for not knowing as much as the next man. I think having different various degrees of intelligence and viewpoints (no matter how bad they may sound) is what makes this world a more warm and lively place. To have everyone be a supergeek would make this world quite cold in my mind.



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14 Dec 2009, 8:25 pm

"I don't smoke". That's funny. It was simply a saying, such as "He's got a chip on his shoulder". It does not mean I really think you smoke pot, OK?

The stupid : ) are simply a sideways smiley face. It's a way of saying, "I'm just joking here & I don't mean to get anybody mad".

I know all aspies are different. That was my point. That's why the world would be incredibly hard and stressful if everyone was an aspie. Each aspie has a different issue that bothers them and may lead to a meltdown. As you pointed out, everyone is different. The things that may cause a meltdown for you may not for someone else. And visa versa.

Please don't take this the wrong way, I'm not looking to cause a stink. But seriously, my honest opinion is that the world would be a real mess if everyone was an aspie. JMHO.

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I don't smoke. I posted this thread for attention. I wanted to see what people would say. I'm open for disagreements.


Every aspie is different. My sensory issues are mild so I don't have much and there are some aspies who have none. I'm pretty flexible because I've learned and I do good with peoples point of views. It takes an open mind to listen. So all aspies would learn to cope and adapt in life. And maybe things would be different in life. No fluorescent lights or they all have dark shades over them. Less scent in perfume, lot more people would be wearing ear plugs. There be more online shopping, etc. Life be different. There still be stores because not all aspies have issues with crowds and some are able to deal with them without melting down.

Not all aspie is the same because we're not clones. Not all of them are sensitive to the same stuff and have the same weaknesses and not all of them are inflexible. You act like we're all the same.

BTW what's with the : ) ?