Page 1 of 1 [ 16 posts ] 

Lecks
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 May 2009
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,987
Location: Belgium

28 Dec 2009, 8:56 am

I can't, for the life of me, understand why people do this. And as anyone who's been here for more than 5 minutes will know, a lot of people here do.

"Hey, my big toes sometimes hurt when they hit a solid object with enough force. Is this related to Asperger's????"

Can anyone please explain to me why people do this and what goes through their heads when they write this stuff?



Danielismyname
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 Apr 2007
Age: 43
Gender: Male
Posts: 8,565

28 Dec 2009, 9:00 am

Well, if you hit your big toe due to spatial disorientation that's common in AS [it is then AS], and you just hit it lightly, but it hurts so much, the latter part could be due to sensory sensitivities [so it is then AS again].

:P



MrLoony
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Jun 2009
Age: 38
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,298
Location: Nevada (not Vegas)

28 Dec 2009, 9:01 am

Probably because of two reasons:

1. Autism is bad. It is the sole reason why my life sucks. Therefore, anything that makes my life suck is related to autism.

2. I am different. Autism makes me different. Thus, anything outside the norm must be because of autism.

There are many things that autistics share. Some are physiological, some are psychological. I personally believe that we also share something spiritual, as well. Anyways, it is well-known that physiological and psychological traits can be linked to autism that are nowhere in the DSM criteria.

So, I believe that it is basically 1. A desire to have something to blame for a perceived crappy life, or 2. A desire to allow oneself to think that they are, in fact, completely normal, even if only within a small group.


_________________
"Let reason be your only sovereign." ~Wizard's Sixth Rule
I'm working my way up to Attending Crazy Taoist. For now, just call me Dr. Crazy Taoist.


28 Dec 2009, 9:24 am

Lecks wrote:

"Hey, my big toes sometimes hurt when they hit a solid object with enough force. Is this related to Asperger's????"



You're exaggerating right?

Yes not everything you see here is aspie related but does it need to be?

Not everything I say here is aspie related. I don't focus on the label and analyze if everything I do is aspie or not. I come here to talk and I don't focus on the label. I see this place as where aspies can come and get together and talk to other people like them, same as for people with similar conditions or for people who never quite fit in and can relate to AS in some ways, same as for people who aren't on the spectrum who come here to learn more about it and see our point of views and how we view the world. I don't think we have to be posting things here that are aspie issues. So don't assume that every topic you see here, that OP must be assuming it's aspie related.

I find it a waste of time to fret about if something I am doing is aspie or not. I just be myself using skills I have learned.

But I do sometimes notice people asking if it's an aspie thing about an issue they have. I think they do this because they are trying to define themselves by figuring out if something they are having is normal or not. I think they are also doing this to try and understand themselves better. I think some just do it to see if it's aspie related because they are trying to see if they have the condition or not or just that trait.



Lecks
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 May 2009
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,987
Location: Belgium

28 Dec 2009, 9:56 am

@ MrLoony: Thanks, that explains a bit. Still seems ridiculous to me though.

@Spokane_Girl: Yes, I was exaggerating. I thought the excessive question marks would indicate it clearly, apparently I was wrong.
Also, I didn't say anything about posts here that aren't aspie related (eventhough this is the General Autism Discussion board), only the ones that try to link every little thing to autism.

My example was meant to charricature some of the posts I've seen here that seem to indicate that autism is somehow the reason they, for example, stub their toes. Which just sounds ridiculous to me.



28 Dec 2009, 10:32 am

Lecks wrote:
Also, I didn't say anything about posts here that aren't aspie related (eventhough this is the General Autism Discussion board), only the ones that try to link every little thing to autism.

My example was meant to charricature some of the posts I've seen here that seem to indicate that autism is somehow the reason they, for example, stub their toes. Which just sounds ridiculous to me.



Quote:
Linking unrelated issues to AS



Huh? :?

Sounds like you were asking why people link things to AS so my point was not everything here is aspie related. Some people here seem to assume anything that gets posted here, the OP is trying to connect to autism.


Yes some things are ridiculous like someone once asked if foot fetishes are connected to autism. Big NO.



Lecks
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 May 2009
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,987
Location: Belgium

28 Dec 2009, 11:24 am

Humbug, sorry, I misread your post. This is the second time I misread a post on this forum today. My English still needs improvement, it seems. :/



Elementary_Physics
Toucan
Toucan

User avatar

Joined: 28 Nov 2009
Age: 32
Gender: Female
Posts: 296
Location: Wisconsin

28 Dec 2009, 12:31 pm

I know what you mean Lecks, Some time ago there was a post about being physically flexable - which obviously wouldn't have anything to do with Aspergers, but somehow the person connected the two are being related.



robinhood
Toucan
Toucan

User avatar

Joined: 27 May 2008
Age: 49
Gender: Male
Posts: 289
Location: UK

28 Dec 2009, 1:17 pm

Elementary_Physics wrote:
I know what you mean Lecks, Some time ago there was a post about being physically flexable - which obviously wouldn't have anything to do with Aspergers, but somehow the person connected the two are being related.


I don't want to be irritating, but actually, quite a few people with AS have hypermobility or ligamentous laxity, which causes us to be more physically flexible, and in some cases more prone to injury. I used to hurt my knee very often as a child, because my ligaments would stretch further than they were supposed to. One of my aspie friends used to dislocate his knee really badly, and end up in hospital. Daft and unrelated as it might seem at face value, research shows that this kind of stuff IS correlated to our autism.

It's amazing the things that ARE connected to autism. Primarily it's a neurological condition, but that doesn't mean it has no effect on the workings of other systems in the body.



Last edited by robinhood on 28 Dec 2009, 1:18 pm, edited 1 time in total.

justMax
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Nov 2009
Age: 44
Gender: Male
Posts: 539

28 Dec 2009, 1:17 pm

I did that in a different way with my auditory synesthesia, all of my life I assumed EVERYONE experienced it. Then I learned that no, they don't, around the time I learned what AS was. So then I figured perhaps it was something other Aspies get too, but it's just another example of something I explained to my girlfriend earlier.

"You keep making it sound like it's dogs vs cats, why?"
'I didn't mean that at all, I meant that NT's are a much broader group, more like mammals in general, with their own subtypes and distinguishing features, and autistics would be the smaller group of cats. There are tigers, housecats, jaguars, lynxes, not all identical at all... but you can tell they're related in a broad way.'



robinhood
Toucan
Toucan

User avatar

Joined: 27 May 2008
Age: 49
Gender: Male
Posts: 289
Location: UK

28 Dec 2009, 2:20 pm

Lecks wrote:
My example was meant to charricature some of the posts I've seen here that seem to indicate that autism is somehow the reason they, for example, stub their toes. Which just sounds ridiculous to me.


I'd agree with Danielismyname about this. The reason I stub my toe so often is that I have mild dyspraxia and poor spatial awareness. Which are both autism related. My thinking is that it's important not to be dismissive of people who ask these types of questions.... that's in part what makes this site so special. That's just my opinion.

Autism isn't just a social interaction thing. There's often a huge range of other physical and mental issues - tourettes, OCDs, bi-polar, depression, alexithymia, ADHD, dyslexia, dyspraxia/poor motor co-ordination, dyscalcula, sensory hyper/hyposensitivity, poor self-monitoring of heat/hunger/thirst, digestive problems and/or food allergies, problems with joint movement and ligaments, the list goes on and on.

I guess my point is that someone might post on the site, not using the "technical jargon" to describe what they are talking about, but nevertheless describing something that somehow relates to one of these secondary issues. Unless we are aware of all of these, how can we be sure we can say "that's stupid"? Sure, some posts might be a bit "out there" but I still think people should feel comfortable to ask.



wigglyspider
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Apr 2009
Age: 38
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,306
Location: WA, USA

28 Dec 2009, 3:22 pm

lolllllllll, I love your example. Yeah, some of the posts are totally like that, but they usually get called pretty fast.
Mostly though, I just think people are trying to find things out about ASDs. Because it's still sort of a mystery, you know? And it's a syndrome, which means we have a bunch of stuff that other people have, but more extreme. So I guess people are just taking the unusual things about themselves and finding out if it's linked to any of the more well-known stuff. It's pretty interesting sometimes, when it's not about something ridiculous like a stubbed toe that hurts. XD But I guess it's good to cover all the bases.. because who knows, maybe the key IS in your stubbed toe. >__>;;


_________________
"You gotta keep making decisions, even if they're wrong decisions, you know. If you don't make decisions, you're stuffed."
- Joe Simpson


Lecks
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 May 2009
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,987
Location: Belgium

28 Dec 2009, 3:56 pm

Thanks to everyone who replied. I think I understand now. I've come to the conclusion that it's mostly the repetition that irks me.



Jellybean
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 20 Apr 2007
Age: 36
Gender: Female
Posts: 2,795
Location: Bedford UK

28 Dec 2009, 5:03 pm

The only reason I ever ask if something is my AS or not is because I am trying to work out what is AS and what is Tourettes and other things. Some things, like the tics and compulsions, are more obviously the Tourettes, but other things like mood swings, rage attacks and strong anger are less easy to define. Plus I have self-confidence issues so I do like to clarify things.


_________________
I have HFA, ADHD, OCD & Tourette syndrome. I love animals, especially my bunnies and hamster. I skate in a roller derby team (but I'll try not to bite ;) )


buryuntime
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 Dec 2008
Age: 86
Gender: Female
Posts: 3,662

29 Dec 2009, 12:56 am

There are /some/, yes. But simply state no on these threads.

Also I think some of this is needed. Sensory issues as an example are not a DSM criteria yet are experienced by almost everyone with autism...



Tim_Tex
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 Jul 2004
Age: 44
Gender: Male
Posts: 46,008
Location: Houston, Texas

29 Dec 2009, 1:49 am

Lecks wrote:
I can't, for the life of me, understand why people do this. And as anyone who's been here for more than 5 minutes will know, a lot of people here do.

"Hey, my big toes sometimes hurt when they hit a solid object with enough force. Is this related to Asperger's????"

Can anyone please explain to me why people do this and what goes through their heads when they write this stuff?


That's what I'm wanting to know.


_________________
Who’s better at math than a robot? They’re made of math!

Now proficient in ChatGPT!