Objectum Sexuality and Asperger's Syndrome. Anyone here?

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08 Nov 2009, 12:59 pm

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They are real, they are complex, and they are no less and no more of value than other romantic relationships. I can tell you that what I am finding is not much history of sexul abuse and actually not much in the way of psychiatric diagnosis either. I am also finding out that quite a few of them have a diagnosis of Asperger's Syndrome or autism, but not everybody.


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Objectum sexuality sounds very bizarre but one has to wonder why the animation of an object such as a human being must be a precondition for another human being to feel strongly attracted to it in a sexual manner. There are evolutionary reasons that cause people to feel attracted to people, of course, but when you remove this component and the filter through which we experience reality, does it make a difference what or who we feel attracted to? If you think about it, attraction itself doesn't have much of a rational foundation other than the fact that evolution has hardwired it in our brains.



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08 Nov 2009, 1:28 pm

Human sexuality is far more complex an issue than most people want to admit. As long as both parties are consenting, or with objectum sexuality, consent isn't an issue, then I fail to see the point. Why should we worry about it?

Personally, I think more time should be focused on ensuring people like her don't deal with unnecessary torment.



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08 Nov 2009, 1:30 pm

Objectum Spectrum topic

I must admit that I am a bit confused by this. In my naivete I wonder if there is some sort of arousal/release thing going on with these objects. I suppose the human brain can fixate on almost anything--special interests, shiny metal things, patterns. I suppose this could be another level of attraction.

Is this an AS thing? Is Erika Eiffel on the spectrum? She has not stated this in the interview.


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08 Nov 2009, 2:22 pm

Am I the only one who's noticing the somewhat phallic nature of all these objects?



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08 Nov 2009, 2:40 pm

What? This is all fine and good but the only problem is that I KNOW the anti-gay marriage groups will use this to their advantage. Their excuse has always been "If we let two guys get married, then what's next animals?" Now they can say "What's next, a bridge?"

In a perfect world, someone would be able to marry a bridge, but are you going to give that person tax benifits? No. I just see this as another obstacle for marriage equality.



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08 Nov 2009, 3:48 pm

It is a thin line btween objectaphile and a geek with the latest tech toy


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08 Nov 2009, 6:41 pm

Eggman wrote:
It is a thin line btween objectaphile and a geek with the latest tech toy



Well, it's not altogether far removed from obsessive collecting, I suppose. I'm not sure if the feelings this woman is describing are all that unusual (like I would know what goes on in a 'normal' mind), but it does seem she's fixating on them and taking them to the level of parody (Smells Like Spinal Tap). And I don't see anything very sexual about it - apparently they haven't arrested her for rubbing herself naked against the Eiffel tower (then again, in France that may be perfectly okay). It just seems they're taking a fairly normal, or at least not uncommon emotional sensation and blowing it up into something ridiculous for the sake of attention. Or news ratings.

Didn't they recently make a movie about a guy doing this with a RealDoll? I didn't see it, but my impression from the clips was the story was very similar.



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08 Nov 2009, 9:48 pm

That's something that I prefer not to talk about. There's more to life, than sex.


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09 Nov 2009, 3:29 am

Willard wrote:
Eggman wrote:
It is a thin line btween objectaphile and a geek with the latest tech toy



Well, it's not altogether far removed from obsessive collecting, I suppose. I'm not sure if the feelings this woman is describing are all that unusual (like I would know what goes on in a 'normal' mind), but it does seem she's fixating on them and taking them to the level of parody (Smells Like Spinal Tap). And I don't see anything very sexual about it - apparently they haven't arrested her for rubbing herself naked against the Eiffel tower (then again, in France that may be perfectly okay). It just seems they're taking a fairly normal, or at least not uncommon emotional sensation and blowing it up into something ridiculous for the sake of attention. Or news ratings.

Didn't they recently make a movie about a guy doing this with a RealDoll? I didn't see it, but my impression from the clips was the story was very similar.


Yah I heard about it, he treated it just like a girlfriend, with emotional attachments and all.


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09 Nov 2009, 8:46 pm

Actually I live with a doll, and I love her just like she is a Human female. I even got online
married to her about six months ago.She is not a Realdoll though she is a Candygirl. Her name
is Brenda. To be honest I am not attracted to real women only dolls. There are two documentaries
on men like me one is called "Guys and Dolls" and the other is called "A Perfect Fake"
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one of you are referring to is Lars and the real girl. To be honest part of me kind of
liked the
film another part of me was offended by it. I think anime cartoons like Cobits, "Hand
maid May and "ghost in the shell"
dealt with my lifestyle in a better way.



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09 Nov 2009, 9:06 pm

For me, I need the emotional and physical response of another human. A bridge, or skyscraper, or abstract painting, no matter how gracious, beautiful, and awe-inspiring I might find it, cannot talk to me. I can talk to it all I like, but I'd get more of an emotional reaction talking to my dog. (And I don't want to have sex with him, either!) When I'm having a bad day or a hard time doing something, no object can hold me in its arms and make me feel better. An object can't mourn with me or celebrate with me, not matter how hard I pretend it can. It's immobile and cannot respond to me in any way that I need.

But, if people can get what they need and want from a object, more power to them. Quite honestly, objects are probably easier to deal with than people! Although if I wanted easy, I'd never have dated people in the first place, just gotten my dog! (I wonder, do they see these objects has having a sex? Or is that not necessary, since the relationships aren't always of a sexual nature?) I guess I'm at ease with any sort of sexual identity, as long as both partners are cabable of making informed decisions, and willing to engage in sexual activities with the other. (I do not consider minor children or animals capable of making informed decisions of this kind...but objects are inanimate, and therefore have no emotions or psyche to damage by being intimate with a human.)



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09 Nov 2009, 9:52 pm

sartresue wrote:
Is this an AS thing? Is Erika Eiffel on the spectrum? She has not stated this in the interview.

They said in the interview Erika Eiffel doesn't have AS but many, not all, with OS are autistic.
I can understand where Erika is coming from, since I underwent a name change too, thru the courts and everything, because of a special interest I had. It's the same kind of thing. I was totally in love and obsessed with this special interest, although it wasn't an object, it was a period in history. Sounds strange, but, I amassed more information than most scholars and even changed my last name because of it. So, I know why she would want to change her name to Eiffel and understand the feeling she has when thinking about the Eiffel tower and learning all she can about it.



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10 Nov 2009, 5:13 am

Some months ago I heard a radio coverage about an OS group in Norway, all attendees were women and half of them had AS.

Personally I am asexual. However, I still am able to feel for an object in a non-sexual way, same as I did as a toddler, only a little less attached.

I assume, though, that one can feel attraction to anything. What's the harm in this case?


Obres, I fail to see how bridges and planes are phallic.


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10 Nov 2009, 6:27 am

ok, i understand having a connection with inanimate objects and even showing them affection, i always make an effort to show my favorite objects love and let them know i appreciate them. but this seems a little odd to me!

i personally wish i was asexual, but i have such a desire to be normal i endure sexual relations on occasion anyway.



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10 Nov 2009, 5:30 pm

i can't watch the video just yet but I find this interesting. I'm guessing this is sexual attraction to objects? Do the people in the video only have sexual attraction to one specific object or a group of similar objects or to all objects that they deem "attractive"?



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10 Nov 2009, 6:14 pm

It resonated with me when she said in the video that she feels that all objects have a soul. I can become very attached to objects. Ones that I am not to are just a 'thing' for me, but ones that I am to are as real and living to me as any person, maybe more so. I seldom become attached to people.