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bdhkhsfgk
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22 Jan 2010, 12:56 pm

What would you diagnose me as? ( I'm not mentioning sociopath because I have feelings)

Borderliner

Narcissist

Borderline Narcissist

Malignant narcissist

NT

Aspie



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22 Jan 2010, 1:04 pm

A hard choice..... Id say you have the middleground between aspie and NT. might have some narcisistic tendencies, but i do feel everyone has them from time to time.


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22 Jan 2010, 1:08 pm

DemonAbyss10 wrote:
A hard choice..... Id say you have the middleground between aspie and NT. might have some narcisistic tendencies, but i do feel everyone has them from time to time.


So you've seen my narcissistic rages?



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22 Jan 2010, 1:55 pm

AS and 17, dont be hard on yourself :sunny:



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22 Jan 2010, 2:37 pm

bdhkhsfgk wrote:
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A hard choice..... Id say you have the middleground between aspie and NT. might have some narcisistic tendencies, but i do feel everyone has them from time to time.


So you've seen my narcissistic rages?


not exactly, Im just comparing your forum personality to myself, which in ways, you really do remind me of myself.

To some NTs I know though, you would prolly come off as narcissistic.


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22 Jan 2010, 2:52 pm

It's generally not considered appropriate to diagnose minors with personality disorders. At 17 I suppose not being an adult is only a technical/legal thing, but given that people with ASDs tend to mature more slowly, I still think any personality disorder diagnosis would be premature. Occasionally, there is someone so very notably manipulative and dishonest, who overtly refuses to examine their own feelings/motives to the point that personality disordered dynamics are pretty obvious, but other than that, trying to even specifically recognize a personality disorder in a member of an online forum seems kinda futile.



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22 Jan 2010, 2:56 pm

I'm not qualified to diagnose you, and even if I was, I wouldn't be able to because I don't have the opportunity to analyze you.

You are what you are.



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22 Jan 2010, 2:58 pm

Maggiedoll wrote:
It's generally not considered appropriate to diagnose minors with personality disorders. At 17 I suppose not being an adult is only a technical/legal thing, but given that people with ASDs tend to mature more slowly, I still think any personality disorder diagnosis would be premature. Occasionally, there is someone so very notably manipulative and dishonest, who overtly refuses to examine their own feelings/motives to the point that personality disordered dynamics are pretty obvious, but other than that, trying to even specifically recognize a personality disorder in a member of an online forum seems kinda futile.


I don't think I slowly mature, I don't use internet slang when talking to someone, and I ENJOY watching mature movies, I understand sarcasm, I can talk in a cold and critizising way etc.

Read some of my previous posts, and you can see what I'm capable of.



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22 Jan 2010, 3:30 pm

I don't know, do you think you might be a narcissistic personality disorder?

My question would be what makes you think that?

Judging from what I read, there is lack of empathy, a need for attention and recognition, has grandiose thoughts and delusions, etc. Some of these traits may be experienced by many people who don't have it. I know that often times aspergers can mimic some of these traits found in this disorder. It could be that you have both aspergers and a narcissistic personality disorder. Then again you may have a behavioral disorder that exhibits some of these narcissistic traits such as the border line personality disorder.

If you feel like it's getting in the way of your life, perhaps you might want to get a diagnoses. On the other hand, if you are looking for answers here, you may not get all the right answers since most of us don't know you personally or are trained with this type of diagnosing. I will be honest in saying that some of your posts come off angry. But I don't know exactly what you're going through or why you feel the need to exhibit such behavior. I know with some people, they maybe going through something or have may have other problems exhibiting some narcissistic traits. It's hard to say.


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22 Jan 2010, 3:37 pm

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I don't know, do you think you might be a narcissistic personality disorder?

My question would be what makes you think that?

Judging from what I read, there is lack of empathy, a need for attention and recognition, has grandiose thoughts and delusions, etc. Some of these traits may be experienced by many people who don't have it. I know that often times aspergers can mimic some of these traits found in this disorder. It could be that you have both aspergers and a narcissistic personality disorder. Then again you may have a behavioral disorder that exhibits some of these narcissistic traits such as the border line personality disorder.

If you feel like it's getting in the way of your life, perhaps you might want to get a diagnoses. On the other hand, if you are looking for answers here, you may not get all the right answers since most of us don't know you personally or are trained with this type of diagnosing. I will be honest in saying that some of your posts come off angry. But I don't know exactly what you're going through or why you feel the need to exhibit such behavior. I know with some people, they maybe going through something or have may have other problems exhibiting some narcissistic traits. It's hard to say.


I don't think it stands in my way if I am a narcissist, but I admit that I tend to act delusional at times.



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22 Jan 2010, 4:11 pm

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diagnoses.
It should be diagnosis. Diagnoses is the plural of diagnosis. And I don't think we are qualified to diagnose you because:
1. Most of us (that I know of) aren't trained psychologists
2. We only know how you act on the internet. And nobody acts the same on the internet as they do with people they can see.



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22 Jan 2010, 4:17 pm

I have no answer to offer. There are aspects of your behavior that lead me to certain conclusions, though nothing concrete as at best they are a set of parameters from which to draw expectations about your actions and words. Moreso, from the options listed in your OP and the responses you've given thus far, it does not appear that you actually want the opinions of others. The behavior displayed has, in my experience, tended to be concurrent with situations where the individual wanted their own views confirmed instead of honest external feedback. If you think you're a narcissist, then that is how you will perceive yourself - regardless of the validity or accuracy of the assessment. So find some comfort with yourself, and stop focusing on the perceptions of others... until then, you will likely continue to experience these swings and frustrations.


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22 Jan 2010, 4:30 pm

ursaminor wrote:
MissConstrue wrote:
diagnoses.
It should be diagnosis. Diagnoses is the plural of diagnosis. And I don't think we are qualified to diagnose you because:
1. Most of us (that I know of) aren't trained psychologists
2. We only know how you act on the internet. And nobody acts the same on the internet as they do with people they can see.


Lol, yeah I have trouble in grammar due so you'll probably see more than one mistake on many of my posts. I may need to get a spell check on this computer just in case anyone does misinterpret my posts.


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22 Jan 2010, 4:38 pm

That would be a difficult one to answer actually.... I don't think I know much to be honest, I would of thought you have mild AS or something? But then again, that is in my opinion. :)


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22 Jan 2010, 5:04 pm

guesswork.

An aspie like trust/devotion to analysis, specifics, facts, with a nievity about how to go about things that i would put down to age.

You remind me of me 10 years ago, give me the specifics, stop F'in about with usless crap and answer my damn question, completely writng off anything that didn't meet my critera of relevent to the point, totally focused in a blinkered manner on what i thought was within the boundries of a usefull reply and usefull information. Making wild black and white decisions about life and trashing anyone who disagreed with me or didn't do what i thought they should (thus becuase i have analysed it and most people don't bother, they must be wrong).

My guess is you have some challenge you'll need to overcome but you'll probably grow out of some direct/blinkered/rude/blunt/selfish tendancies and that will help you deal with the true issues underneath.



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22 Jan 2010, 6:24 pm

bdhkhsfgk wrote:
Maggiedoll wrote:
It's generally not considered appropriate to diagnose minors with personality disorders. At 17 I suppose not being an adult is only a technical/legal thing, but given that people with ASDs tend to mature more slowly, I still think any personality disorder diagnosis would be premature. Occasionally, there is someone so very notably manipulative and dishonest, who overtly refuses to examine their own feelings/motives to the point that personality disordered dynamics are pretty obvious, but other than that, trying to even specifically recognize a personality disorder in a member of an online forum seems kinda futile.


I don't think I slowly mature, I don't use internet slang when talking to someone, and I ENJOY watching mature movies, I understand sarcasm, I can talk in a cold and critizising way etc.

Read some of my previous posts, and you can see what I'm capable of.

Contrary to what a lot of people claim, you don't have to be mature to be intelligent.

Edit: I'm not saying that you're immature, because I really don't know. But I've seen it mentioned a bunch of times that autistics mature more slowly than most people, and at 17 you're not supposed to be mature anyway. Just because you're intelligent doesn't mean that your brain is finished developing, or that your personality is quite "set." You can be intelligent and get all those "no, I don't believe that you're that young!" comments based on superficial measures of maturity like how much you use internet slang, and still not have reached your full maturity. Whether or not you use internet slang doesn't affect a personality disorder diagnosis, but whether or not your personality is fully developed yet does. I wasn't referring to maturity in the way that people they use "mature" as a compliment and "immature" as an insult, I was using the literal definition of mature as "fully developed."