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04 Feb 2010, 4:00 pm

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ADHD triggers 'creative genius'
Attention-deficit disorders may be the spark behind creative geniuses such as Byron, Picasso and even Kurt Cobain, claims a psychiatrist.

Professor Michael Fitzgerald believes people with ADHD have the ability to "hyper-focus" on things of interest.

The Trinity College Dublin academic said lives of high achievers such as Jules Verne and Mark Twain seemed to suggest the disorder.

However, a psychologist said only mild ADHD could possibly offer a benefit.

ADHD is generally regarded as a disadvantage in life, with its characteristic traits of inattentiveness leading to problems at school and home.

However, Professor Fitzgerald told the annual meeting of the Royal College of Psychiatry's Faculty of Academic Psychiatry that it could actually prove an advantage.


“ Clearly ADHD is not a guarantee of genius, but the focused work-rate that it produces may enable creative genius to flourish ”
Professor Michael Fitzgerald, Trinity College Dublin
He claimed that it was possible to identify ADHD traits in a list of historical figures, also including Sir Walter Raleigh, Thomas Edison, Oscar Wilde, James Dean, Clark Gable and even Che Guevara.

"The same genes that are involved in ADHD can also be associated with risk-taking behaviour.

"While these urges can be problematic or even self-destructive - occasionally leading people into delinquency, addiction, or crime, they can also lead to earth-shattering breakthroughs in the fields of the arts, science, and exploration."

He said that Kurt Cobain, the former Nirvana songwriter, had an "amazing ability" to focus on writing music.

"People with ADHD have symptoms of inattentiveness, but they often also have a capacity to hyper-focus on a narrow area that is of particular interest to them.

"Clearly ADHD is not a guarantee of genius, but the focused work-rate that it produces may enable creative genius to flourish."

'Reckless character '

While there are potential pitfalls of diagnosis by historical evidence, Professor Fitzgerald, pointed to clues such as Lord Byron's "turbulent life", with evidence that he got into trouble at school, and criminal behaviour as an adult.

Sir Walter Raleigh was a "reckless character", but this, and his "insatiable quest for new stimulation" had made him into a famous soldier, adventurer and explorer, said Professor Fitzgerald.

This is not the first time that the academic has turned to the history books for examples of famous figures who may have been shaped by psychiatric disorders.

He suggested in a 2004 book that Mozart, George Orwell and Andy Warhol all fitted established criteria for a diagnosis of autistic spectrum disorder.

Professor Barbara Sahakian, a clinical psychologist at Addenbrooke's Hospital in Cambridge, said that it would be difficult to make a positive diagnosis of ADHD unless written documentation was very detailed.

"You would need a diary which basically answered all the questions I'd need to ask if the person was in front of me in the consulting room."

She said that while mild ADHD traits could possibly be an advantage, more severe versions of the disorder could be far too debilitating for the individual.

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04 Feb 2010, 6:38 pm

Interesting.



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04 Feb 2010, 6:49 pm

I suppose that's kind of my story. Poor concentration in school, distracted by most things but has a passion for photography. Though I often get bored with it I know it's the only thing I'm good at. I'm yet to make a career out of it yet, but I'm almost there.


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04 Feb 2010, 7:23 pm

makes sense



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05 Feb 2010, 6:09 am

I think it is a too simplistic explanation.

Hability to hyper-focus can help, and maybe be a decisive factor, but only hyper-focus does not explain the differences in the way of thinking that you find in a genious.

I know people with narrow interests, very good at what they do, and they are not genius! On the other hand, people like Arquimedes or Leonardo DaVinci had very broad interests, and excelled in different areas.



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05 Feb 2010, 6:48 am

Could be some truth in it. I've sometimes been amazed at what I can achieve by focussing strongly on my special interests. I once made it into the local newspaper because I'd built a multi-track tape recorder in the days when such things hardly existed. Yet I couldn't hold my attention on my college work to save my life. I've never tried to find out whether I've got ADHD, because I tend to see it as presuming a person "should" pay attention to things that aren't of their choice - my attitude has always been that if a subject bores the listener, then it's not surprising if they find themselves unable to take it in. Also I wouldn't want the embarrassment of having to tell the healthcare professionals where they could stick their drugs.



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05 Feb 2010, 8:27 pm

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Professor Michael Fitzgerald believes people with ADHD have the ability to "hyper-focus" on things of interest.
So when someone had ADHD and autism, they would have hyperhyper-focus?



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05 Feb 2010, 8:36 pm

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Could be some truth in it. I've sometimes been amazed at what I can achieve by focussing strongly on my special interests. I once made it into the local newspaper because I'd built a multi-track tape recorder in the days when such things hardly existed. Yet I couldn't hold my attention on my college work to save my life. I've never tried to find out whether I've got ADHD, because I tend to see it as presuming a person "should" pay attention to things that aren't of their choice - my attitude has always been that if a subject bores the listener, then it's not surprising if they find themselves unable to take it in. Also I wouldn't want the embarrassment of having to tell the healthcare professionals where they could stick their drugs.

Sometimes when I enjoy things I still lose concentration them. For example I like to read but I can barely through a chapter without my mind wandering off or I get exhausted from reading. Even after an hour of taking photos I feel tired.


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05 Feb 2010, 8:38 pm

People often speculate about historical figures having ADHD. Problem is, ALL the examples they use apply to Aspergers as well. I'd say that there's a good deal of overlap in the two. Perhaps more ADHD patients ought be diagnosed with Aspies.


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05 Feb 2010, 8:50 pm

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People often speculate about historical figures having ADHD. Problem is, ALL the examples they use apply to Aspergers as well. I'd say that there's a good deal of overlap in the two. Perhaps more ADHD patients ought be diagnosed with Aspies.

You can have both.
I agree with the speculation, but think these historical figures had traits and not full AS or ADHD. And Andy Warhol was a dyslexic which can also overlap with ADHD.


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06 Feb 2010, 8:25 am

ursaminor wrote:
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Professor Michael Fitzgerald believes people with ADHD have the ability to "hyper-focus" on things of interest.
So when someone had ADHD and autism, they would have hyperhyper-focus?

I have ADHD and AS I'll often become so focused I'll forget to eat sleep shower etc.



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06 Feb 2010, 8:44 am

MartyMoose wrote:
ursaminor wrote:
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Professor Michael Fitzgerald believes people with ADHD have the ability to "hyper-focus" on things of interest.
So when someone had ADHD and autism, they would have hyperhyper-focus?

I have ADHD and AS I'll often become so focused I'll forget to eat sleep shower etc.
I do this too, but can not at all concentrate on schoolwork. Except one time when it was about molecules which interest me, so it was much easier to concentrate on.